Where do you expect us to finish this season?

I'm hoping for 4th, wouldn't be overly surprised if we finished as low as 6th though.
 
A mathematical hypothetical run of form exactly the same throughout the season gets us on 60 points. Hopefully we get our shit together hit 75 and take a CL spot.
 
Top four. Think we are going up against Liverpool and Chelsea this season and they both look like teams who will drop points to lesser sides.
 
At the start of the season I thought anything less than 4th would be a massive underperformance. So far we've been even worse than that but I still think we'll finish top four. If we get RvP, Carrick and Rafael all fit and playing well we'll be a better team. We're surely bound to improve, right?
 
I've said it in a few other threads but can any of you honestly see the current top four dropping more points than us from here on in? I can't.

Anywhere between fifth and seventh.
 
Honestly, unless there's a dramatic change in Moyes' approach to which players he selects and his tactics, and we have big signings in January, then I can't see us finishing top 4. It really shouldn't have been too tough of an ask for this squad of players to finish in the top 4, considering they walked the title last year. City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool all look far better then us, and way more consistent, and then we have to compete with Spurs and Everton for the rest of the spots. This is a huge 2 months for Moyes' career, and if things don't go well then he's as good as gone.
 
God willing, we'll finish in the top half. Lots of games before January without Carrick. I don't expect us to make the top 4. Not with the results Moyes has put together so far. Losing to West Brom, Everton at home, battered by City, never threatened Liverpool or Chelsea. Nothing to inspire any confidence in a change of performance. The team makes every match look difficult, even against Palace and Sunderland.
 
We may, but I don't see us finishing in the top 4. Assuming Moyes gets "his" players for next season, we'll see what he can achieve. Personally I never wanted him to replace SAF, but we have to remember SAF made the choice.
 
Thankfully Sturrige is injured which means liverpool are gonna rely on suarez to drag them to a top 4 spot. Can't see us ending above City, Chelsea and Arsenal.
 
4th or 5th... depending on whether Suarez does something daft or not.

Gun to my head, 5th.
 
It will take a real miracle for us to finish fourth. Likely to be an absolutely disgraceful finish for the previous season's champions.

Easy for people to blame the players, but they've proven themselves, and it's virtually the exact same squad. What's changed? The inept imports from Everton. Moyes, his staff, and his £27.5 million donkey of a midfielder.

Unacceptable results, excruciating tactics and style of play, and a clear lack of belief in the manager from the players.
 
Mad Winger is looking like a bit of a fool now, but you often do when you include too much bluster alongside predictions.

Predictions for this season were always going to be off base because people dont realise how big the changes in each club have been.

I doubt many expected us and Arsenal to be above City at this stage for a start.
 
It will take a real miracle for us to finish fourth. Likely to be an absolutely disgraceful finish for the previous season's champions.

Easy for people to blame the players, but they've proven themselves, and it's virtually the exact same squad. What's changed? The inept imports from Everton. Moyes, his staff, and his £27.5 million donkey of a midfielder.

Unacceptable results, excruciating tactics and style of play, and a clear lack of belief in the manager from the players.


This is where you go wrong, the team is not as good as you think it is, yes SAF changing is the major difference, but it wouldn't matter what manager you put in there it would always be a problem.
 
I hope somewhere in the top 4, but I fear we won't make it.

Top 3 is already forming itself with Arsenal, Chelsea and City. City and Chelsea started as bad as us, but instead of losing consecutive points to Soton, Cardiff, Tottenham and Everton (3/12, in what should be winnable games) they won their games and so did Arsenal. The 1-0 victory over Arsenal doesn't mean anything anymore, they are 12 points on top of us and I expect it too increase really.

Top 3 will be Arsenal, Chelsea and City, top 4 spot is the highest we will get this season. We will face competiton from Everton, Soton, Newcastle, Liverpool and Tottenham for it and I wouldn't be surprised if we fail to achieve it. The football just really isn't good, no winning mentality at all in the squad and Moyes looks clueless on what to do. If we don't fall behind too much a good winter transfer window could be the push we need to still get in that top 4 but it will be very difficult. I actually think we will end up as low as 6th or 7th, which is a total disgrace to our club.
 
This is where you go wrong, the team is not as good as you think it is, yes SAF changing is the major difference, but it wouldn't matter what manager you put in there it would always be a problem.

Don't think this is ture. A manager can lign up differently, motivate them more (or differently), give other tactical guidelines to the players and bring in other players. The one player Moyes brought in proved to be a total failure and not worth his price tag. He ligned up similar to how Fergie played but he doesn't know how to win games with it. If he can't emulate what Fergie did, than do something different but he is clueless on what. A manager with a different philosphy could make alot of changes that could have alot of impact on the results. Surely we could with a quality injection, but the quality that is in the team right is seriously underused and that is down to Moyes and could be solved by a good trainer switch.
 
This is where you go wrong, the team is not as good as you think it is, yes SAF changing is the major difference, but it wouldn't matter what manager you put in there it would always be a problem.

He could've, you know, just not signed Fellaini though.
 
This is where you go wrong, the team is not as good as you think it is, yes SAF changing is the major difference, but it wouldn't matter what manager you put in there it would always be a problem.
This is what we were talking about on the drive home, it's pretty easy to say 'we're the champions we should be defending our title' but the fact is certain players are simply no where near their best this season.
 
This is where you go wrong, the team is not as good as you think it is, yes SAF changing is the major difference, but it wouldn't matter what manager you put in there it would always be a problem.

I was just thinking about this earlier (might start a thread on it later), but I wonder how a 'top' manager would have done with United this season? And by top I mean a proven manager i.e Wenger, Mourinho, Anchelotti et el....I wonder if they would have made significant investments in the Summer or how they would have set the team up.
 
Not sure right now that we can argue that we deserve to finish top four. The way we've been playing in the majority of games (basically all bar the two Bayer games and against Swansea) we don't deserve to be top four.

There's no divine right to finish top four - it has to be earned on the pitch for a club like ours. And right now a top four finish simply isn't being earned by Manchester United.

Arsenal are obviously playing well enough to deserve to finish in the top four. City and Chelsea deserve it because of how much money their owners have spent. That leaves one spot for the remaining teams to fight for - and we're not fighting. This is nothing like fighting for it.

I thought third before the season started - I'm tempted to adjust that, but let's wait until after Xmas.
 
Top four looks like quite a stiff task now, eh..

We'll scrap for 4/5/6 I think. Come the last 8 or 9 games at the end of the season and the prospect of finishing out of the top four should at least jolt our players into giving everything every game.
 
I think we will still finish fourth, though we are going to make it hard on ourselves. We have a run of easier fixtures from memory now in the league, so hopefully string some wins together and the other teams drop points. We can't really afford to drop anymore points to teams in the bottom half of the table.