I'm not sure about that. They're virtually rebuilding most of their stadia. So, they'll definitely have the facilities in place to put on a world cup regardless of the bid.
World Cup 2018 & 2022 bids
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I'm not sure about that. They're virtually rebuilding most of their stadia. So, they'll definitely have the facilities in place to put on a world cup regardless of the bid.
That is true, I was more liking toward existing facilities and support infrastructure. Valencia may be moving to their new ground and Barcelona refurbishing the Camp Nou, but the areas that would require government support such as roads and rail are very unlikely to happen in Spain at all.
fecking twats in the British media, couldnt they have waited until after the vote to expose the corruption?!
Bollocks. The British Press have done exactly what they should be doing, which is exposing corruption and hypocrisy. I'd love to have the World Cup in this country, but if the reason we don't is because we're willing to dish the dirt on this shower of shite, so be it
They can stick their 'backlash' up their arse
Nah - they shouldve waited until we got the WC and then expose whatever they want - that would be the clever way to get what we want and then screw FIFA after. A WIN WIN situation !
Anyway hopefully we will still get it - our bid is by far the strongest and it is only politics where we might fail.
Well it's far from WIN WIN really, say we won the they released it, cue worldwide condemnation of FIFA, investigations into the process much doubt about England's winning bids legitimacy and it potentially being revoked.
By potential see likely, nothing worse than a corrupt organisation scorned.
I might have agreed with that, but this happened first.
FA chief Lord Triesman: Spain in bid to bribe World Cup referees | Mail Online
It's fair to say that Fifa were already on our case because of the British Press and their insatiable desire to make headlines. Some of these potential reasons for failure are of our own doing. If we thought our chances had been damaged before, now our bid appears to be blown out of the water. We know corruption is always prevalent with people of power but there is a time and a place to expose them. Why couldn't they have shown just a bit of common sense in relation to the context of their investigation?
It's a joke how we always manage to self sabotage ourselves in this country. Hosting a World Cup on home soil should have been the main focus for everyone.
Really? The main focus for a news organization should have been to ensure that that organization's home country got to host a football tournament?
Last I heard construction at the Nuevo Mestalla had stalled due to lack of funds.
no way can it be Australia. It always has to be Prime time in Europe. So thats the Aussie out. Pity. Because they would make great hosts.
England 2018 and USA 2022.
Put money on it.
Put money on it.
Asian TV markets
no way will they ignore Europe. That's where the money is.
But Asia is where the money will be by the time 2022 rolls around.
In an ideal world, yes. People are already angry at the media for their sabotage to our campaign. They shouldn't forget where their true allegiances lie or they will suffer the consequences.
Your ideal world: Do not want.
The time difference between Australia and Japan or Korea is minimal.
Well who knows what would have happened - personally I couldnt see FIFA taking away the hosting rights after awarding them but anything is possible I suppose.
Totally agree - they managed to deal with the Triesman situation swiftly so it didnt seem to have too much negative impact on our campaign but then the newspaper allegations have put the whole bid in doubt now and if the Panorama show goes ahead then it could be even worse for us - wankers!
BBC Sport - Football - Fifa chief warns Spain and Qatar over World Cup note
Spain and Qatar have been warned over a note that was passed between them at a recent Fifa meeting.
Qatar and the joint Spain and Portugal bids for 2018 and 2022 are being probed by Fifa over allegations of collusion.
"I don't think it was the time or place," said Fifa executive member Chuck Blazer. "It shouldn't have happened but nothing more than that."
It is unclear whether the note - which said "We're going to win" - referred to the probe or their World Cup bids.
Blazer, who saw the note at the meeting on 29 October in Zurich, added: "It is more likely that it referred to the ethics committee and the fact that nobody had provided any hard evidence of collusion."
Fifa's ethics committee will rule next week on another two of the 24 members, Nigeria's Amos Adamu and Tahiti's Reynald Temarii, who have been suspended following allegations in the Sunday Times that they wanted cash for their votes.
Meanwhile, former Minister for Sport Richard Caborn has suggested that a forthcoming Panorama's forthcoming investigation into Fifa's conduct is "unpatriotic".
"I support investigative journalism and I welcome it," Caborn told BBC Radio Shefflied.
"But there is a Fifa ethics committee to look at allegations made against the world governing body. Panorama should refer this information and not give England's opponents opportunities to do it down.
"The timing of Panorama....I've told them I won't go on it. I think it is being unpatriotic. They could have got that information to the ethics committee and they could have screened it much earlier. It's about ratings and circulations and it's not about backing the bid.
"You have to question the editor of the Sunday Times and the editor of Panorama programme. In the real world when people are making those allegations then it's going to leave a bad taste in the mouth."
Spain and Qatar have been warned over a note that was passed between them at a recent Fifa meeting.
Qatar and the joint Spain and Portugal bids for 2018 and 2022 are being probed by Fifa over allegations of collusion.
"I don't think it was the time or place," said Fifa executive member Chuck Blazer. "It shouldn't have happened but nothing more than that."
It is unclear whether the note - which said "We're going to win" - referred to the probe or their World Cup bids.
Blazer, who saw the note at the meeting on 29 October in Zurich, added: "It is more likely that it referred to the ethics committee and the fact that nobody had provided any hard evidence of collusion."
Fifa's ethics committee will rule next week on another two of the 24 members, Nigeria's Amos Adamu and Tahiti's Reynald Temarii, who have been suspended following allegations in the Sunday Times that they wanted cash for their votes.
Meanwhile, former Minister for Sport Richard Caborn has suggested that a forthcoming Panorama's forthcoming investigation into Fifa's conduct is "unpatriotic".
"I support investigative journalism and I welcome it," Caborn told BBC Radio Shefflied.
"But there is a Fifa ethics committee to look at allegations made against the world governing body. Panorama should refer this information and not give England's opponents opportunities to do it down.
"The timing of Panorama....I've told them I won't go on it. I think it is being unpatriotic. They could have got that information to the ethics committee and they could have screened it much earlier. It's about ratings and circulations and it's not about backing the bid.
"You have to question the editor of the Sunday Times and the editor of Panorama programme. In the real world when people are making those allegations then it's going to leave a bad taste in the mouth."
Unpatriotic? 
feck off.
feck off.Well it's certainly technically true, it is unpatriotic, but that's no reason to stop it.
There's no good time to do these things, however they still need to be done so just get it over with.
BBC Sport - Football - England bid team write to Fifa ahead of 2018 Cup vote
Leaders of England's 2018 World Cup bid have written to members of the Fifa executive committee distancing themselves from the British media.
The bid team have also pleaded with world governing body Fifa to make its decision on the merits of their bid.
The letter, signed by chairman Geoff Thompson and international president David Dein, is the latest attempt to put England's campaign back on track.
There is just over two weeks to go until the vote on 2 December.
England are facing defeat after a backlash from Fifa members in response to an investigation by the Sunday Times into alleged corruption in the bidding process.
Two executive committee members, Amos Adamu of Nigeria and Reynald Temarii of Tahiti, face a Fifa ethics committee hearing this week into the newspaper's claims that they were willing to offer their support in return for money for football projects. Both men have denied any wrongdoing and will fight the allegations during the three-day hearing.
England 2018 also fear they could be damaged by an upcoming BBC Panorama investigation into Fifa, due to be screened on 29 November - only three days before the vote.
Thompson and Dein wrote: "In recent weeks, the role of the British media and its relationship with both Fifa as an organisation and the individual members of the Fifa Executive Committee has come under the spotlight and there has been significant speculation as to the effect that this might have on our bid.
"It has been a difficult time for Fifa and as a member of the football family we naturally feel solidarity with you and your colleagues.
"It is now public knowledge that we have made representations to the BBC regarding a forthcoming documentary they are planning. We are alerting you to fact that the programme appears in part to be raking over allegations some of which are up to 10-years-old and have already been formally dealt with by Fifa and the Swiss courts.
"We hope England's bid will not be judged negatively due to the activities of individual media organisations, regardless of one's view of their conduct. We hope you appreciate that we have no control over the British media."
In writing the letter, England 2018 hope to have countered any suggestions that they may have somehow colluded with the Sunday Times or BBC investigations. They also hope to have demonstrated to the Fifa members that they are part of the football family.
While some may have questioned the sympathy shown to the Fifa members by Thompson and Dein, they have been careful not to criticise the British media. The bid leaders have also made it clear that they have no control over the media.
This is the crucial point they have sought to get across. They believe it would be extremely unfair to judge England's bid on the basis of the way the country's media operates.
It is a sign of how badly the bid team believe they have been damaged by events of the last month that a letter like this has been sent to Fifa.
It is understood Dein was encouraged to do it following a meeting with the Fifa president Sepp Blatter in Zurich last week.
England face coming third behind Russia and a joint bid from Spain and Portugal unless they can mount a dramatic fightback.
This week promises to be a critical with the ethics committee due to publish its findings on Amadu and Temarii on Wednesday. The committee will also rule on claims that Spain and Portugal have agreed a voting alliance with Qatar, who are bidding for the 2022 World Cup finals.
Unusually, Fifa has called an emergency executive committee meeting for Friday to discuss the findings.
Fifa's inspection report on each of the bids has also been sent out and will be published this week with England expected to be given a low risk rating.
If Fifa's ethics committee gives weight to the Sunday Times claims by getting tough with the two members currently suspended and there is a good response to the letter and the inspection report, then England may feel they can still get back into the race.
Leaders of England's 2018 World Cup bid have written to members of the Fifa executive committee distancing themselves from the British media.
The bid team have also pleaded with world governing body Fifa to make its decision on the merits of their bid.
The letter, signed by chairman Geoff Thompson and international president David Dein, is the latest attempt to put England's campaign back on track.
There is just over two weeks to go until the vote on 2 December.
England are facing defeat after a backlash from Fifa members in response to an investigation by the Sunday Times into alleged corruption in the bidding process.
Two executive committee members, Amos Adamu of Nigeria and Reynald Temarii of Tahiti, face a Fifa ethics committee hearing this week into the newspaper's claims that they were willing to offer their support in return for money for football projects. Both men have denied any wrongdoing and will fight the allegations during the three-day hearing.
England 2018 also fear they could be damaged by an upcoming BBC Panorama investigation into Fifa, due to be screened on 29 November - only three days before the vote.
Thompson and Dein wrote: "In recent weeks, the role of the British media and its relationship with both Fifa as an organisation and the individual members of the Fifa Executive Committee has come under the spotlight and there has been significant speculation as to the effect that this might have on our bid.
"It has been a difficult time for Fifa and as a member of the football family we naturally feel solidarity with you and your colleagues.
"It is now public knowledge that we have made representations to the BBC regarding a forthcoming documentary they are planning. We are alerting you to fact that the programme appears in part to be raking over allegations some of which are up to 10-years-old and have already been formally dealt with by Fifa and the Swiss courts.
"We hope England's bid will not be judged negatively due to the activities of individual media organisations, regardless of one's view of their conduct. We hope you appreciate that we have no control over the British media."
In writing the letter, England 2018 hope to have countered any suggestions that they may have somehow colluded with the Sunday Times or BBC investigations. They also hope to have demonstrated to the Fifa members that they are part of the football family.
While some may have questioned the sympathy shown to the Fifa members by Thompson and Dein, they have been careful not to criticise the British media. The bid leaders have also made it clear that they have no control over the media.
This is the crucial point they have sought to get across. They believe it would be extremely unfair to judge England's bid on the basis of the way the country's media operates.
It is a sign of how badly the bid team believe they have been damaged by events of the last month that a letter like this has been sent to Fifa.
It is understood Dein was encouraged to do it following a meeting with the Fifa president Sepp Blatter in Zurich last week.
England face coming third behind Russia and a joint bid from Spain and Portugal unless they can mount a dramatic fightback.
This week promises to be a critical with the ethics committee due to publish its findings on Amadu and Temarii on Wednesday. The committee will also rule on claims that Spain and Portugal have agreed a voting alliance with Qatar, who are bidding for the 2022 World Cup finals.
Unusually, Fifa has called an emergency executive committee meeting for Friday to discuss the findings.
Fifa's inspection report on each of the bids has also been sent out and will be published this week with England expected to be given a low risk rating.
If Fifa's ethics committee gives weight to the Sunday Times claims by getting tough with the two members currently suspended and there is a good response to the letter and the inspection report, then England may feel they can still get back into the race.
Only about 2 weeks to go till it's decided.
So who do you think will and want to get it?
Think - Russia, USA
Want - England, Japan
So who do you think will and want to get it?
Think - Russia, USA
Want - England, Japan
Why Japan, out of interest?
South Korea Would Hold Some '22 World Cup Games in North Korea If Bid Wins - Bloomberg
We know what sepp's like, South Korea will get 2022 and he'll win Nobel peace prize for "uniting the Korea's"
Think - Russia & Australia
Want - England & Qatar (for their awesome stadium designs)
Want - England & Qatar (for their awesome stadium designs)
Qatar is tiny, no way should they get a World Cup.
Japan and Korea only had it 8yrs ago - They are no chance.
Qatar has impressive stadiums but its in the middle of the desert - Slim to no chance.
Its between USA and Australia for 2022. If Fifa want the money they will stick to USA but if they want a "feel good" WC like Africa they might just go for Australia.
As for 2018 - Who knows.
Qatar has impressive stadiums but its in the middle of the desert - Slim to no chance.
Its between USA and Australia for 2022. If Fifa want the money they will stick to USA but if they want a "feel good" WC like Africa they might just go for Australia.
As for 2018 - Who knows.
Think: Russia and USA
Want: England and USA
Want: England and USA
This is ridiculous. There's no more reason to suspend the law when England are hosting it than when it's being hosted in another country. Exploitation is an extremely apt word to use.
My view of what i want is unchanged since this thread started ...
Unfortunately I think we have fecked it and it will goto Russia, still expect Oz for 2022
It'll be England 2018 and Australia 2022
I hope they choose Belgium&Holland. The only way for us to participate at a World Cup I'm afraid these days
But since our government doesn't seem too inclined to give in to FIFA's conditions such as the tax-exemption and other things, chances are small we'll get the WC.
But since our government doesn't seem too inclined to give in to FIFA's conditions such as the tax-exemption and other things, chances are small we'll get the WC.
Why do they actually have to do it? dont get that!
The World Cup and European Championships are on a list of events which the government says must be broadcast on free-to-air TV.
Yer knew that, dont understand the quote of why they cant do that if they host it
Restriction of free trade for the media (I think)
Ah right. Greed on FIFA's part I'd assume.
Henry Winter saying on Twitter Fifa 2018 question quality of English training grounds. Colney? Cobham? Melwood? Bodymoor? Finch Farm? 2 Carringtons? All good
I go to Japan 2-3 time every year, basically it's my favourite country to visit.