World Cup 2018 & 2022 bids

So what are Russia and Qatar? Russia might be 3rd rate at best. Qatar doesn't even register in terms of football. I'm glad FIFA decided to "bring football" to an astounding 1.6m people. Maybe the Vatican should go for it next time since they don't have any stadiums, no football history or culture, and lots of money.

You also think it's great for a country to be punished for pointing out corruption within FIFA? Maybe FIFA should take it as a hint to sort itself out rather than saying "NO! You can't do this to us! No World Cup for you!"


Where is the evidence? Please lets not make the UK and the BBC to be beacons of fair play and piety. Both organisation have engaged in heinous amounts of bribery and corruption over the years.
 
Greece had it's courtesy Olympics already :)
 
Leaving aside allegations of corruption and cash (which are hard to ingore given th Qatar victory), I guess most European fans still believe that the World Cup should be about putting on a great show, and should be hosted by one of the handful of countries with the fans, the infrastructure and the passion (Were it not for the fact they've had it in the last 30 years anwyway, I'd be just as pissed off for Spain).

FIFA obviously see it differently, and think it is about taking a country that isn't so into football and isn't in a position to host it, and kicking them into shape. Great for that country, but not so much for fans around the world.

Sums it up almost perfectly. I don't think it should always be hosted by a powerhouse though,..I think the idea of spreading the love is a fantastic one..But not EVERY time, because the World Cup is about the football, and the fans, more than it is about development opportunties, and it just feels like a constant fecking kick in the face to us that are actually going to go to these things that it's now going to be away from the main footballing powerhouses for 20 years, and especially that a country with no footballing history can just get the biggest thing in football just by virtue of it being very rich.

It's nothing to do with England, I'd be fine with Germany hosting it every 8 years. It's to do with catering to your actual audience, and to what would be best for everyone who actually goes, including the players, at least some of the time.
 
I think some of your reactions are hilarious. Russia will put on a great show its a given. The summer climate will be fine. They have invested a lot of time into their bid just like England and they have never hosted a WC before. Why dont they deserve it? Maybe this will also help the racism issue too in the country. I think its a great place to stage the tournament.

Qatar will have high tech stadiums with climate contol and will be spectacular. What will they do with all the stadiums have the event? Who gives a feck, thats none of our problems is it?

i hope your right about the stadia. and im sure it will be glittering made for HD tv spectacle. Anyways its over and im done.

well done FIFA:lol:
 
Surely if Qatar can be considered a host, Canada can as well.

We put on the most successfull youth World Cup in terms of attendance.

Toronto is THE most multi cultural city on the planet.

The entire country has an excellent reputation of being multicultural.

We don't have stadia and our large cities are too far apart but a joint bid with the USA would really make sense. Imagine games in Toronto, Montreal, New York, Philidelphia and Detroit. So many cultures, and great cities with fantastic sports history and tons of character.

Absolute shame that a city like Toronto has never hosted a world wide event. Beijing screwed us of the 2008 summer games. feck.
 
LiterallyJamie

Say what you like about the Qatar bid, but you can't knock their top, top stadiums.

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Hassan Abdulla al Thawadi, chief executive of the Qatar 2022 World Cup bid, said the Muslim state would also permit alcohol consumption during the world’s most watched sporting event. Specific fan-zones will be set up during the event, they will provide alcohol for sale.

Well done, way to go, sell your beliefs down the river for a few sheckles more.

Twat
 
Surely if Qatar can be considered a host, Canada can as well.

We put on the most successfull youth World Cup in terms of attendance.

Toronto is THE most multi cultural city on the planet.

The entire country has an excellent reputation of being multicultural.

We don't have stadia and our large cities are too far apart but a joint bid with the USA would really make sense. Imagine games in Toronto, Montreal, New York, Philidelphia and Detroit. So many cultures, and great cities with fantastic sports history and tons of character.

Absolute shame that a city like Toronto has never hosted a world wide event. Beijing screwed us of the 2008 summer games. feck.

I thought Toronto hosted one of the recent Winter Olympics?
 
feck me...I would've liked to see either Australia, Holland & Belgium, or Korea ahead of Qatar.

Isn't the temperature very high in Qatar? With lots of humidity? If so...well, I can see players dying of exhaustion and dehydration.
 
Putting aside your amusing idea of the second greatest superpower in history and the second most dominant force of the 20th century as somehow part of a new wave, how can you possibly justify Qatar and compare it to the likes of China, India and Brazil? It's just another of those oil bubbles which will burst very drastically in the near(ish) future. It is a tiny country which won't exist at the end of this century which you seem to think it owns. To put it in the same bracket as the BRIC nations is laughable.

No I think Qatar is abit like giving it to South Africa .... in that its been awarded to the region/continent with Qatar being the host. Qatar's tournament will allow the entire middle east to participate and celebrate its culture and improve its footballing capability just as South africa facilitated the rest of Africa. Just be open minded about it and accept that every nation has the right to host this tournament if it can prove it has the capabilities to do so.
 
Its the right result for football to take the games most prestigious tournament to new frontiers. Delighted for Qatar and the Middle East who will present football in a totally new way and just as Brazil, China and India have hosted major world events in the past few years, so Russia as one of the new major world economies deserves to have its chance.

The 'old' democratic nations of the 20th Century will have to accept that there time was last century and that this one belongs for new nations to have the chance to show off their cultures and capabilities.

But FIFA has a duty to promote football everywhere and so to award its premier tournament new countries who wll now have the excuse to enhance their footballing capabilities and infrastructure can only be good news for the game. I think FIFA got it right.

Tragedy for England but then again, we are a completely second rate footballing country who just so happens to have the fortune of having a strong economy and so can host one of the richest leagues.

If England were punished because of their media, then I think thats also good. "Freedom of speech" for the sake of it is a totally flawed and destructive concept - Panorama's accusations (of events from a decade ago!) have turned out to be baseless of evidence. And so our Governments inability to stop the BBC from broadcasting these views has proven to be there undoing. The world is changing quickly and until those on these shores realise that there way is not the only way, future humiliations on the global stage await.

Yeah but thats bollocks to be fair.

We shouldnt be punished for our media - who the feck do fifa think they are?!

The best footballing bid should win. In having Old Trafford, Wembley, the Emirates, the council house etc we have the best grounds.

We have the most fanatic support, the best infrastructure, and also we have a widely supported league, cosmopolitan culture and we've got a good climate.

Qatar and russia have none of these (apart from russia summer maybe)

so, fine. I could understand a spain/portugal bid being successful, but its just motivated by money. Dont dress it up more than that.
 
Surely if Qatar can be considered a host, Canada can as well.

We put on the most successfull youth World Cup in terms of attendance.

Toronto is THE most multi cultural city on the planet.

The entire country has an excellent reputation of being multicultural.

We don't have stadia and our large cities are too far apart but a joint bid with the USA would really make sense. Imagine games in Toronto, Montreal, New York, Philidelphia and Detroit. So many cultures, and great cities with fantastic sports history and tons of character.

Absolute shame that a city like Toronto has never hosted a world wide event. Beijing screwed us of the 2008 summer games. feck.

You just pointed out how Qatar is almost the complete opposite of Canada. How does that show you can host the World Cup.

What you need is for those tar sands to get valuable.
 
feck me...I would've liked to see either Australia, Holland & Belgium, or Korea ahead of Qatar.

Isn't the temperature very high in Qatar? With lots of humidity? If so...well, I can see players dying of exhaustion and dehydration.

Few bottles of Isotonic should do the trick.
 
funny how that works when cash is involved. Religion takes a back seat. I wonder what the less tolerant of the faith will think about that decison.

It only makes sense that a country will do as much as possible when welcoming a plethora of foreign guests, but don't let your bitterness keep you from taking cheap shots.
 
Its the right result for football to take the games most prestigious tournament to new frontiers. Delighted for Qatar and the Middle East who will present football in a totally new way and just as Brazil, China and India have hosted major world events in the past few years, so Russia as one of the new major world economies deserves to have its chance.

The 'old' democratic nations of the 20th Century will have to accept that there time was last century and that this one belongs for new nations to have the chance to show off their cultures and capabilities.

But FIFA has a duty to promote football everywhere and so to award its premier tournament new countries who wll now have the excuse to enhance their footballing capabilities and infrastructure can only be good news for the game. I think FIFA got it right.

Tragedy for England but then again, we are a completely second rate footballing country who just so happens to have the fortune of having a strong economy and so can host one of the richest leagues.

If England were punished because of their media, then I think thats also good. "Freedom of speech" for the sake of it is a totally flawed and destructive concept - Panorama's accusations (of events from a decade ago!) have turned out to be baseless of evidence. And so our Governments inability to stop the BBC from broadcasting these views has proven to be there undoing. The world is changing quickly and until those on these shores realise that there way is not the only way, future humiliations on the global stage await.

Sammsky, mate, I'm not even English... but feck off.

A country are fortunate to be rich? And a good league is just a result? Freedom of Speech is flawed? Go live in a country with no Free Speech, please just go.

Everyone mistakes growing countries with rich countries. India, Russia China, Brazil, they're all growing, but they're all poor.

Here in Brazil its the same fecking speech about leaving a lasting infrastructure, but a country shouldn't need a WC to do it, they should jsut get on with it. Which goes back to the origin of the Wealth of Nations, some countries just get on with it.

Its all rubbish. Once you see how it operates with Brazil's FA, its just a microcosm of how FIFA operates. Blatter doesn't want to take the game to new shores, he wants to take the game to shores where his son's company can be in-charge of ticket sales, as opposed to the 'good' countries where they make sure they're in-charge of selling the tickets.
 
No I think Qatar is abit like giving it to South Africa .... in that its been awarded to the region/continent with Qatar being the host. Qatar's tournament will allow the entire middle east to participate and celebrate its culture and improve its footballing capability just as South africa facilitated the rest of Africa. Just be open minded about it and accept that every nation has the right to host this tournament if it can prove it has the capabilities to do so.

while i would love to believe in the idea that the voting members took your beliefs into their decision I fear that isnt the case. Whatever the case its clear that it wont be in england probably in my lifetime so thats ok i can watch on tv
 
I'm not English but I think a world cup there would be truly special. International football needs a venue like that. It's become rather stale.
 
Cameron absolutely bang on "we had the best bid, FIFA said we had the best technical bid, FIFA said that we had the best commercial bid and were the lowest risk - apparently this is not enough."
 
Well done, way to go, sell your beliefs down the river for a few sheckles more.

Twat

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I'd say it was a decent gesture - let foreigners enjoy the same luxuries they're used to beyond Qatarian borders, or would you rather they kept the alcohol ban?

I'm sure they'd revert back to normal policy following the world cup anyway.
 
Idiot Prime Minister talking on BBC live

What the Prime Minister said was absolutely correct, what the shadow sports minister said that there needs to be an inquiry into how English football is run and why we have failed to win the 2018 bid and the 2006 bid when we won the olympics is crap.
 
Cameron absolutely bang on "we had the best bid, FIFA said we had the best technical bid, FIFA said that we had the best commercial bid and were the lowest risk - apparently this is not enough."

FIFA are drumming home the point that this decision has nothing to do with the bid, and everything to do with the English media
 
FIFA wants some A-rab money!!

The money argument doesn't wash, at least in terms of how much the tournament generates, because if that was the case England would have won it. The technical reports said, England was the only bidding country that could host it tomorrow. Very little investment would have been required in infrastructure (transport, stadia, facilities, hotels, etc.) which would have allowed more money from the proceeds to have been pumped back into the game. It's a farce!
 
People have no idea how expensive Russia is, I was there last year and the cost of everything was beyond a joke, if you're thinking of going you better start saving now, will they be waving the $300+ visa waiver costs, thats quite a chunk of change just to get into the country
 
Just why is it that nothing seems to be able to be done about FIFA?

Everyone knows what a corrupt bunch of bastards they are, they even want the tax laws changed each time a World Cup takes place so that they pay no tax.

Unbelievable in this day and age.
 
The money argument doesn't wash, at least in terms of how much the tournament generates, because if that was the case England would have won it. The technical reports said, England was the only bidding country that could host it tomorrow. Very little investment would have been required in infrastructure (transport, stadia, facilities, hotels, etc.) which would have allowed more money from the proceeds to have been pumped back into the game. It's a farce!

The very fact that the infrastructure needs to be put in place allows FIFA to use their influence to get even more kickbacks.
 
If England were punished because of their media, then I think thats also good. "Freedom of speech" for the sake of it is a totally flawed and destructive concept - Panorama's accusations (of events from a decade ago!) have turned out to be baseless of evidence. And so our Governments inability to stop the BBC from broadcasting these views has proven to be there undoing. The world is changing quickly and until those on these shores realise that there way is not the only way, future humiliations on the global stage await.

I honestly can't believe this paragraph... an open appeal for totalitarianism?!:wenger:

Yes, slag of that Panorama all you like, but to suggest that a) the government should have banned the broadcast because b) that is how the world is going and we should get in line... well that just beggars belief!

"Freedom of speech for the sake of it", ffs. I've argued in the current events plenty of times against those who believe freedom of speech should be absolute (Americans mainly), but to censor something because it might upset some FIFA delegates? That's insane.