World Cup 2018 & 2022 bids

I think there should probably be a rule that you have to have qualified for a World Cup to be able to host one.
 
1712: Full results of 2022 voting:


Round 1: Australia1 vote, Japan 3 votes, US 3 votes, South Korea 4 votes and Qatar 11 votes.

Round 2: Japan 2 votes, South Korea 5 votes, US 5 votes and Qatar 10 votes.

Round 3 South Korea 5 votes, US 6 votes and Qatar 11 votes.

Round 4 US 8 votes and Qatar 14 votes (Qatar obtain absolute majority)

...wha?
 
Russia is a footballing nation with millions of fans following the game for many decades, the biggest country in Europe. They played in the World Cup since 1958, won the European Football Championship in 1960 and reached the final in 1964,1972 and 1988.

Considering that a country like USA hosted the event in 2004, it's only fair that Russia will finally get to host the event.

Russia isn't the only footballing nation with millions of fans.

USA hosted it in 94, not 04, they already had all the infrastructure in place

Qatar are hosting it in 22, it's only fair that Wales will finally get to host the event after that.

Your logic is still that Russia deserves it because some other cnuts have hosted it in the past.
 
1712: Full results of 2022 voting:


Round 1: Australia1 vote, Japan 3 votes, US 3 votes, South Korea 4 votes and Qatar 11 votes.

Round 2: Japan 2 votes, South Korea 5 votes, US 5 votes and Qatar 10 votes.

Round 3 South Korea 5 votes, US 6 votes and Qatar 11 votes.

Round 4 US 8 votes and Qatar 14 votes (Qatar obtain absolute majority)

Yep, just like the 2018 bid. You could see their minds were made up from the start. The other bid teams were just delaying the inevitable.
 
World Cups held in England and the United States would meet all of Fifa's projected revenue targets and deliver bigger profits to world football's governing body than any of their competitors, according to a confidential report.

Both England, who are bidding for the 2018 finals, and the US, bidding for 2022, were given an unbeatable overall 100% rating by management consultants McKinsey.

McKinsey were commissioned by Fifa to analyse each bid across five key revenue streams: sponsorship, ticketing, hospitality, licensing and media rights.

The report, which does not reveal Fifa's projected target figure, just each country's potential to meet it, has been sent to the Fifa executive members who will decide the destinations of the two World Cups on Thursday.

It will be discussed by the executive committee for the first time on Wednesday.

The report, entitled Fifa's World Cup Host Candidate Assessment, gave England an overall 100% rating for 2018, followed by Spain/Portugal with 91%, Holland/Belgium 87% and Russia 86%.

For 2022, it rated the United States top with an overall 100% evaluation, followed by Japan with 73%, South Korea 71%, Qatar 70%, and Australia on 68%.

England scored 100% in all five of the revenue stream areas, while the United States scored 100% in four.

All the European candidates for 2018 scored 100% in media rights because McKinsey did not see a variation in revenue potential as all countries fall into the same European time zone for broadcasting matches.

The biggest difference in any 2018 revenue stream came in hospitality in which Russia only scored 56%.

England also had the highest revenue potential in licensing and merchandising, while Holland/Belgium scored 73%. The report is a significant boost to England's bid for 2018 following the BBC's Panorama programme screened on Monday, which alleged corruption at the head of world soccer's governing body.

Andy Anson, the chief executive of England's bid campaign, told a media briefing on Monday that the team had been encouraged by the report, without going into the details.

"Fifa gave us a very strong technical evaluation. Fifa have now had an economic study and England comes out way ahead of its competitors in that study, and we clearly have the strongest bid for 2018 – its the perfect foundation."

Fifa report backs England and US World Cup bids as most profitable | Football | guardian.co.uk

Money - it is what it all comes down to. Should we be surprised at the corruption allegations if this is the case?
So.....wonder who's going to make up the shortfall in revenue for Russia and Qatar then? :smirk:
 
Mark Saggers who is in Zurich for Talksport, has heard that Blatter reminded his fellow committee members this week of "certain media reports".

For my part i hope we serve up a whole load more every year until 2018, keep an eye on FIFA and the Russia/Qatar bids like no other. Throw the doors wide open to their corruption.
 
Qatar would let Israel take part in a World Cup on their territory despite not recognising the Jewish state, the head of the Persian Gulf nation’s bid to stage the 2022 event said. Israeli athletes had competed previously in Qatar, such as Israeli tennis player Shahar Pe'er in 2008, In addition to another Israeli that participated in the Doha 2010 Indoor Championships.

He forgot to mention that most of Shahar Peer's matches at that tournament had to be played on a secluded court with hardly any camera coverage and crowd seating because of the hostile reception she'd have received playing in front of a full court. So what'll happen to the Israeli team if they qualify and have to play in front of probably over 40,000+ people?
 
I don't really care at all. Feel a bit sorry for those who so badly wanted it here, it's been a hell of a long time, still pleased for Russia to get it. Qatar is just funny, good luck to them.

Pretty much how I feel. The amount of misguided jingoistic imperialism on boards like this though make me sad.

England came up short big time. All those involved are saying 'they worked really hard' ... what do you want a medal?! .... all the other bids worked just as hard and one obviously worked harder as he won!

For whatever reasons, the bid was fundamentally flawed and has been shown up to be so. People should just deal with that instead of some of the arrogant and misguided bollocks being spouted.
 
Mark Saggers who is in Zurich for Talksport, has heard that Blatter reminded his fellow committee members this week of "certain media reports".

For my part i hope we serve up a whole load more every year until 2018, keep an eye on FIFA and the Russia/Qatar bids like no other. Throw the doors wide open to their corruption.


Deffo. I think its time the big footballing nations started turning their backs on FIFA.

The whole organisation is corrupt. Why should we dance to their tune?
 
FIFA president Sepp Blatter has expressed his satisfaction with the outcome of the 2018 and 2022 World Cup bidding process.

FIFA's Executive Committee members voted for Russia to host the 2018 World Cup, while Qatar were awarded the right to host the world's biggest football tournament in 2022.

"We will travel to two completely new countries. There has never been a World Cup in Russia or elsewhere in Eastern Europe," Blatter was quoted as saying by reporters.

"Additionally, nations from the Middle East and the Arabic world have long been waiting to get the chance to host the World Cup.

"This being said, I'm clearly a satisfied man at the moment. Football is moving in the right direction and these decisions make me a happy FIFA president."
 
Hey any of the countries that didn't vote for us get huge amounts of aid from us by the way? I'm feeling in a mean mood

Maybe but have we got any pointless friendlies lined up with any of them. They should be abandoned.
 
He forgot to mention that most of Shahar Peer's matches at that tournament had to be played on a secluded court with hardly any camera coverage and crowd seating because of the hostile reception she'd have received playing in front of a full court. So what'll happen to the Israeli team if they qualify and have to play in front of probably over 40,000+ people?

No idea, ask him.
 
FIFA president Sepp Blatter has expressed his satisfaction with the outcome of the 2018 and 2022 World Cup bidding process.

FIFA's Executive Committee members voted for Russia to host the 2018 World Cup, while Qatar were awarded the right to host the world's biggest football tournament in 2022.

"We will travel to two completely new countries. There has never been a World Cup in Russia or elsewhere in Eastern Europe," Blatter was quoted as saying by reporters.

"Additionally, nations from the Middle East and the Arabic world have long been waiting to get the chance to host the World Cup.

"This being said, I'm clearly a satisfied man at the moment. Football is moving in the right direction and these decisions make me a happy FIFA president."

He went on to say that the exercise he'd gotten from lifting sacks full of money had "rejuvenated him". "I think I'm going to buy an island. Australia, maybe? The price ought to be low, heh heh heh."
 
Pretty much how I feel. The amount of misguided jingoistic imperialism on boards like this though make me sad.

England came up short big time. All those involved are saying 'they worked really hard' ... what do you want a medal?! .... all the other bids worked just as hard and one obviously worked harder as he won!

For whatever reasons, the bid was fundamentally flawed and has been shown up to be so. People should just deal with that instead of some of the arrogant and misguided bollocks being spouted.

Yeah the reactions on here are almost as if this was an English football club forum...

Judging by the vote results and the presentations, the Russians didn't win it because they worked harder.
 
Russia isn't the only footballing nation with millions of fans.

USA hosted it in 94, not 04, they already had all the infrastructure in place

Qatar are hosting it in 22, it's only fair that Wales will finally get to host the event after that.

Your logic is still that Russia deserves it because some other cnuts have hosted it in the past.

USA is not a footballing nation, majority of the population don't give two fecks about it.

I didn't say anything about Quatar.

Hosting the World Cup is not just about having the necessary infrastructure in place, it's about the history of the sport and if you followed football longer than a couple of years you'd know that Russia is deserving of that honor far more than for example, USA, which already had a chance to host it, hence my example.
 
I guess I'm the only one that thinks Qatar will be excellent hosts.

They'll be excellent, everything should be fantastic, it's the most romantic bid in a gimmicky type of way. It's just a strange one that won't actually benefit football.
 
I think there should probably be a rule that you have to have qualified for a World Cup to be able to host one.

Well that would have ruled Japan out back in the 90s then.

I have no problem with the Qatari bid - England were not up against them anyway.
 
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If the rotation policy holds, concacaf should get 2026, right?

No rotation anymore, just bans on the continental association for the 2 WCs after the one they host.

I can see a rapid change of rules very soon if China show any interest, or the AFC being split into 2.
 
Adrian Durham going mad saying that Arshavin should not be let back in the country
 
USA is not a footballing nation, majority of the population don't give two fecks about it.

I didn't say anything about Quatar.

Hosting the World Cup is not just about having the necessary infrastructure in place, it's about the history of the sport and if you followed football longer than a couple of years you'd know that Russia is deserving of that honor far more than for example, USA, which already had a chance to host it, hence my example.

None of the 2022 bids were footballing nations but all of them except Qatar have national teams that can actually qualify on their own.
 
"I would back the Qatar bid," Ferguson said. "I admire their purpose and vision. It's achievable. Addressing the hot climate issue and transporting the stadia to countries is very clever."
SIR ALEX FERGUSON BACKS QATAR 2022 BID

So the great and good of RedCafe know better than SAF :wenger::wenger::wenger: So many moronic views on this thread

If its good enough for SAF, then its more than good enough for me.
 
USA is not a footballing nation, majority of the population don't give two fecks about it.

I didn't say anything about Quatar.

I never claimed that they were a footballing nation.

By applying your logic, another non-footballing nation deserves the world cup, as USA hosted it in 94, what about Yemen, they clearly deserve it.

You didn't say much about Quatar, but surely your logic for how Russia deserves it applies to Quatar and other countries as well ?
 
Pretty much how I feel. The amount of misguided jingoistic imperialism on boards like this though make me sad.

England came up short big time. All those involved are saying 'they worked really hard' ... what do you want a medal?! .... all the other bids worked just as hard and one obviously worked harder as he won!

For whatever reasons, the bid was fundamentally flawed and has been shown up to be so. People should just deal with that instead of some of the arrogant and misguided bollocks being spouted.

Yeah, not sure we can really afford it either, and the transport infrastructure will be as shit, or even shittier, than it is now. Any lift to the economy is going to be confined to hospitality proceeds, as the stadiums are all in place, and we're not going to splurge on widening motorways or something.

Not happy we didn't get it, but at least it's gone to a country it's never gone to before.
 
Considering the high ratings received by the England bid versus the votes obtained it seems obvious that voters were not impressed by the bribery allegations and sting operations by the UK media.