Zinedine Zidane | Resigns

It's genuinely baffling how our attackers don't score as many as an attack that consists of Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema, Isco, James, Kroos and Modric.
Even you know like a third would be nice
 
There should be a Real Madrid 2015/2016 thread like we have for Barca and Bayern.
Anyway, there have been a lot of Rumours surrounding James Rodriguez over the past few days in both Span and Colombia. Seems he and Zidane have gotten off on a wrong note. He's been slated heavily in the Madrid press today. Not training well, overweight, partying etc.
As you can guess, we have been liked with him over the past few days. The Sun saying we are prepared to smash our transfer record to get him. I will file that under rubbish.
@carvajal @Vato @Raul Madrid
What do you think is up with him?
 
There should be a Real Madrid 2015/2016 thread like we have for Barca and Bayern.
Anyway, there have been a lot of Rumours surrounding James Rodriguez over the past few days in both Span and Colombia. Seems he and Zidane have gotten off on a wrong note. He's been slated heavily in the Madrid press today. Not training well, overweight, partying etc.
As you can guess, we have been liked with him over the past few days. The Sun saying we are prepared to smash our transfer record to get him. I will file that under rubbish.
@carvajal @Vato @Raul Madrid
What do you think is up with him?
No idea, I think Zidane just prefers Isco's playstyle (which is very similar to Zidane's) a bit more, that's all. Don't think James will go anywhere soon.
 
There should be a Real Madrid 2015/2016 thread like we have for Barca and Bayern.
Anyway, there have been a lot of Rumours surrounding James Rodriguez over the past few days in both Span and Colombia. Seems he and Zidane have gotten off on a wrong note. He's been slated heavily in the Madrid press today. Not training well, overweight, partying etc.
As you can guess, we have been liked with him over the past few days. The Sun saying we are prepared to smash our transfer record to get him. I will file that under rubbish.
@carvajal @Vato @Raul Madrid
What do you think is up with him?
If the colombian press is being hard on him then I suppose that there is some truth. There is an article in As reproducing the articles of the Colombian press, more or less they say that he has a low physical level and Madrid board is worried because he is seen too often in Madrid night life.
Recently there was an incident with the car,driving at 200km/h in Madrid.
The problem with Zidane the other day is basically anger for being substitute,lack of humility as colombian press says.
He wants to renew the contract,demands 10 mill euro net. Madrid renews with 2 year left(not yet) so I wouldn't be surprised if Mendes tries to press the club this summer.
In my opinion all these are minor problems. I don´t see Madrid selling him
 
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I really can't understand how Zidane's appointment will help them. They never had a problem smashing teams under most managers from Pellegrini to even Rafa. Their problem has been an inability to deal with tactically disciplined and hard working teams like Barcelona and Atlético in Spain and the better teams in Europe like Juventus last year. With the exception of that game at the Allianz Arena, they have not really dominated a big game against a top club for years and in my opinion it's due to their tactical lack of discipline and hard work. I can't see how Zidane will change that, in fact the noise coming out of their camp is that they are doing even less work on details and so on. Any Madrid fans care to shed some light on this?
 
I really can't understand how Zidane's appointment will help them. They never had a problem smashing teams under most managers from Pellegrini to even Rafa. Their problem has been an inability to deal with tactically disciplined and hard working teams like Barcelona and Atlético in Spain and the better teams in Europe like Juventus last year. With the exception of that game at the Allianz Arena, they have not really dominated a big game against a top club for years and in my opinion it's due to their tactical lack of discipline and hard work. I can't see how Zidane will change that, in fact the noise coming out of their camp is that they are doing even less work on details and so on. Any Madrid fans care to shed some light on this?
It is still early to say.He is doing very similar things to Ancelotti.Ancelotti also was known in Madrid by very soft training, a lot of ball and almost no tactics. The time of splendor of his Madrid coincided with a period of physical fullness, from the last 1/3 of the season of la décima until January 2015.
I think that I wrote in another post, but considering that he wants/must play with 4-3-3 I think that his main job should be convincing BBC to defend and balance the team to not burn a midfield very creative but not great defending.
 
So ZZ has been in charge for 2 games.
8-0
4-1.

Have I got this right?
12 goals in 2 games. MUFC would need about 10 games to score that many goals.
 
So ZZ has been in charge for 2 games.
8-0
4-1.

Have I got this right?
12 goals in 2 games. MUFC would need about 10 games to score that many goals.
5-0 and 5-1.

10 goals.
 
It is still early to say.He is doing very similar things to Ancelotti.Ancelotti also was known in Madrid by very soft training, a lot of ball and almost no tactics. The time of splendor of his Madrid coincided with a period of physical fullness, from the last 1/3 of the season of la décima until January 2015.
I think that I wrote in another post, but considering that he wants/must play with 4-3-3 I think that his main job should be convincing BBC to defend and balance the team to not burn a midfield very creative but not great defending.
True, Ancelotti also was not much on tactics. But my point is that the best that can achieved playing like that is a good run here and there. Of course if that happens to be around spring, it could mean a CL or a Cup win. But they can't compete consistently with Barcelona or even this Atlético like that. Basically, they will always be inconsistent, stoppable and vulnerable with the off chance that they can be breathtaking in periods. Is that what Real boards and fans want?
 
So ZZ has been in charge for 2 games.
8-0
4-1.

Have I got this right?
12 goals in 2 games. MUFC would need about 10 games to score that many goals.
It was 5/0 and 5/1, 10 goals in two. Rafa achieved the same in one. What is your point?
 
True, Ancelotti also was not much on tactics. But my point is that the best that can achieved playing like that is a good run here and there. Of course if that happens to be around spring, it could mean a CL or a Cup win. But they can't compete consistently with Barcelona or even this Atlético like that. Basically, they will always be inconsistent, stoppable and vulnerable with the off chance that they can be breathtaking in periods. Is that what Real boards and fans want?
You are right, is impossible to have everything. Every fan has their tastes but for me the priority is to win trophies playing nice. If consistency and regularity means a rigid system tending to defend as Simeone, then I prefer to Zidane. The priority now is to be patient and that won´t be easy.
About Barça, I am not so sure if they are so good tactically, if Luis Enrique is so good coach(not for me) or if everything is based largely on Messi
 
You are right, is impossible to have everything. Every fan has their tastes but for me the priority is to win trophies playing nice. If consistency and regularity means a rigid system tending to defend as Simeone, then I prefer to Zidane. The priority now is to be patient and that won´t be easy.
About Barça, I am not so sure if they are so good tactically, if Luis Enrique is so good coach(not for me) or if everything is based largely on Messi
With Barcelona, I don't think it is Enriqué but the club from the bottom up. They all have a very clear and strong identity in the way they move and occupy the pitch. They know what to do and when to do it in every phase of the game. They have had some marvellous players over the last few years but so did Real. Messi is a game changer, maybe the biggest changer ever but I really don't think he is the only difference between the two sides. He would be if the difference was small but I think you would agree it has been quite huge in terms of titles and head to heads over the past decade. That to me suggests that a big part of the gap is the tactical discipline of Barcelona. And by tactics here, I don't mean the common association to defensive strength and solidity but game intelligence, movement and positioning. Barcelona simply more work into that than pretty much anyone bar Bayern probably.
 
It was 5/0 and 5/1, 10 goals in two. Rafa achieved the same in one. What is your point?

There isn't one. Deportivo haven't won for a month now, and the other team was the mighty Sporting Gijon, a team currently only trailing Levante in the race for the Segunda. Hardly emphatic by La Liga's standards. Even Rafa got some big scores and he didn't leave Real trailing Atletico and Barca by a country mile.

The real test is when they're still traling Barca and/or Atletico and have suffered a few shit results at the hands of them, as it always is under Perez.
 
Rodriguez will be two years into his contract this summer... Probably starting to renegotiate terms now so we will continue to be linked until he signs a new deal in the summer
 
Real doing well under Zidane. They've scored a good few goals under him so far. Anyone watching them?
 
Real's next 10 games after Granada:

Athletic Bilbao (H)
Roma (A)
Malaga (A)
Atletico Madrid (H)
Levante (A)
Celta Vigo (H)
Roma (H)
Las Palmas (A)
Sevilla (H)
Barcelona (A)
 
Youd expect Real to dispatch most of thos teams pretty easily. The two standouts are obviously Atletico and Barca.
 
Youd expect Real to dispatch most of thos teams pretty easily. The two standouts are obviously Atletico and Barca.

Celta Vigo & Sevilla not exactly easy games, but they are at home
 
It was pretty much the first match RM played under him that required higher degree of tactical nous, no? Not that I'm trying to disrespect other La Liga teams or something.
 
He's their Giggs. :lol:

I wonder if they keep him for next season. They might, because I don't think there are any managers left for them to get in the summer.
 
He's their Giggs. :lol:

I wonder if they keep him for next season. They might, because I don't think there are any managers left for them to get in the summer.


I don't think Real would go far wrong with Poch.
Proven with slightly smaller clubs that he can over achieve and he plays attractive football
 
If he's not there next season I'm pretty sure Mourinho will be, unless we move for him now.
 
Football management is the fastest way to sully everyone's opinion of football legends.
 
James Rodriguez is one of those guys. Luxury footballer at its finest. Really struggling to see what are the qualities he can bring to the Real Madrid team other than his star appeal. I don't even think he's a better player than Ozil. He's been completely missing in almost every big game I've watched him in. Real would do well replace him with someone like Casemiro who can provide balance to the team.
 
I thought James had a very good 1st season, but he has been really poor this season.

He was probably their worst player vs Atletico. Isco too hasn't kicked on from last season as well.

To be honest, they've missed Bale a lot this season. Could argue he's been their most consistent attacker.
 
James Rodriguez is one of those guys. Luxury footballer at its finest. Really struggling to see what are the qualities he can bring to the Real Madrid team other than his star appeal. I don't even think he's a better player than Ozil. He's been completely missing in almost every big game I've watched him in. Real would do well replace him with someone like Casemiro who can provide balance to the team.

He's nowhere near as good as Di Maria, let alone Ozil.
 
Have a feeling Zidane is going to be the one they give time to, despite the fact he is probably the one that deserves the least time given his lack of any real experience.
 
I also think that he will get time, I hope we will not regret in the middle of the season.
I'm curious to see his power of decision in the transfer market.
In an article in Sport a few days ago ( Sport paints the worst possible scenario for Madrid) http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/rea...erez-por-los-fichajes-del-real-madrid-4967550 they say that the president and Zidane don´t agree the signings .
Zidane wants Hazard but Florentino thinks he is very irregular , Pogba is a priority but the club does not want to deal with Raiola . The president wants a top striker ( Aubameyang ) but Zidane does not want to slow the progression of Mayoral, and the same with De Gea and Keylor Navas.
 
I also think that he will get time, I hope we will not regret in the middle of the season.
I'm curious to see his power of decision in the transfer market.
In an article in Sport a few days ago ( Sport paints the worst possible scenario for Madrid) http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/rea...erez-por-los-fichajes-del-real-madrid-4967550 they say that the president and Zidane don´t agree the signings .
Zidane wants Hazard but Florentino thinks he is very irregular , Pogba is a priority but the club does not want to deal with Raiola . The president wants a top striker ( Aubameyang ) but Zidane does not want to slow the progression of Mayoral, and the same with De Gea and Keylor Navas.

Sounds like the issues most managers would have with Perez?
 
I also think that he will get time, I hope we will not regret in the middle of the season.
I'm curious to see his power of decision in the transfer market.
In an article in Sport a few days ago ( Sport paints the worst possible scenario for Madrid) http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/rea...erez-por-los-fichajes-del-real-madrid-4967550 they say that the president and Zidane don´t agree the signings .
Zidane wants Hazard but Florentino thinks he is very irregular , Pogba is a priority but the club does not want to deal with Raiola . The president wants a top striker ( Aubameyang ) but Zidane does not want to slow the progression of Mayoral, and the same with De Gea and Keylor Navas.
Perez needs to stop interfering with the manager he himself appointed. I wish he would just fecking stay quiet and let the manager do what he thinks is best.