It was off Evra.
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It was off Evra.
My stream showed it on a loop at half-time, I'm nigh on certain it was onside.
It was offside.
Clearly off.
Benefit of doubt to the attacker though and rightly so, and what a finish it was, love those kind of headers.
Stills can be misleading when judging these things, I've seen it at least ten times and I'm convinced one of the defenders moves out (as Berba moves in) at the instant the ball is played. Nobody at sky mentioned that it was offside if I remember correctly.
Stills aren't misleading at all, that is the moment Nani strikes the ball, and it's offside, no argument there.
The defender does move in afterwards which is obviously what fooled the lino, doesn't change the fact that it was offside though.
This vid shows it perfectly, you can clearly see the moment Nani kicks the ball.
I can't see that video; I'm at work. Stills can be misleading because invariably they are not taken at the exact moment the ball leaves the attacking player's foot. I think that's the case in this instance.
But I just told you that it wasn't. I took the still
The video clearly shows Nani kick the ball and then they freeze frame, stop debating, it was offside.
I don't think he was a regular, Glaston'd know better but aside from his West Ham one I can't remember many more...
It was offside but extremely tight. The defender moves towards the goal at that moment so probably looked onside at the time to the linesman.
I thought we all knew he was off but were just choosing to ignore it
He was offside
He was offside
very true. I mean, I would prefer it if it wasn't offside, I'm a United fan after all. But it just was.
Well exactly.
It happens during a season, you get some for you and get some against you.
Has anyone pointed out that he was very good last night by the way?
I was going to look back through the thread but couldn't get passed the offside issue.
I was going to look back through the thread but couldn't get passed the offside issue.
You didn't look back very far, these are all from the previous page. The only reason the 'offside' debate was raised is because 'evra' was adamant that the goal was onside, which of course was a ludicrous argument.
As Robbie just showed you... LOTS of us.
Thanks. That's good to see.
Let's get it back on track then
Great game from him yesterday, personally I prefer him without Rooney, I feel that's when we get the best of him.
Some beautiful touches too last night
It was offside. It doesn't detract from the wonderful finish. You really are warped if by trying to maintain it was onside in the face of evidence. I think you are of the opinion that if it is offside people will pick on this - this is so absurd as the postings of Johno?
He was excellent last night and a bit of luck good have had a hat trick. heck even sharky is praising him and rightfully so.
Let's get it back on track then
Great game from him yesterday, personally I prefer him without Rooney, I feel that's when we get the best of him.
Some beautiful touches too last night
You think he is better playing higher up the pitch?
I think he's better when he is free to play wherever he wants - I think its a waste if he is used at just leading the line a la Mario Gomez.
I just think he's better when he's not alongside another player who wants as many as touches as he does.
I used to think this but now I don't.
Last night was a prime example. When Hernandez came on and we have the ball in midfield instead of dropping into the hole he was playing right up with Hernandez.
Interesting - you could be onto something.
Berba at Tottenham had Keane playing deeper, getting involved and moving around whereas Berba took up more central positons - if i recall correctly. Young was playing in the Keane type role.
Berba scored one, setup Cole for another and was unlucky with a shot. I think I prefer Young + Berba to Berba + Chicha.
Just watched it again in better quality and I stand corrected; he's just a touch off.
It doesn't matter. We had a goal wrongfully deemed offside. Berbatov scored that as well.
It happens against us enough and we're expected to take that as "part of the game", I'm just doing the same now. It happens, we benefited. No big deal.
True!
No one thinks it's a big deal, the only reason we were talking about it was because we were in disagreement as to whether it was off or not.
it was offside, but who cares? It was given, not disallowed so why is this even being debated amongst United fans?
See my post above.
It became a debate because someone posted he was offside and another poster said he wasn't. No-one really gives a shit, stuff happens, it was bloody tight.
it was offside
thread closed
thread closed
feck off.
so what?
but as he was playing for Manchester United when he scored it, none of us will complain
unless they have some sort of agenda against Berba?
look what you started evra! Now people think we're trying to belittle the goal or something.
For the last time, no-one gives a shit that he was just a tiny bit off, it doesn't make it any less of a great finish and it's no slight on his game as he was excellent on Tuesday.
The only and I repeat ONLY reason anyone debated the offside was becuse 1 poster asked the question to which evra posted "it's not opinion, he was ONSIDE".
This sparked a small debate about whether it was off or not,,we debated the decision, not Berbatov, not the quality of the finish. Doesn't surprise me that you're being over-sensitive again Erica
Now people think we're trying to belittle the goal or something.For the last time, no-one gives a shit that he was just a tiny bit off, it doesn't make it any less of a great finish and it's no slight on his game as he was excellent on Tuesday.
The only and I repeat ONLY reason anyone debated the offside was becuse 1 poster asked the question to which evra posted "it's not opinion, he was ONSIDE".
This sparked a small debate about whether it was off or not,,we debated the decision, not Berbatov, not the quality of the finish. Doesn't surprise me that you're being over-sensitive again Erica
Yeah but he was offside
ha ha, he's fishing Erica, don't bite
Did he do enough against Benfica to start tomorrow?
It would be harsh to leave him out IMO.
It would be harsh to leave him out IMO.
I think so. It was a performance that showed there's more to come. We as fans want to see more as well. The more time he's given, the sharper he'll get.
Would it not also be harsh to leave out last weekend's match winner?
or are we dropping Rooney?