He was on the bench?! feck me never noticed.
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He was on the bench?! feck me never noticed.
Na I doubt he is off. Fergie likes having 4 first team strikers, so at the moment it is Berba/Chico/Rooney/Welbz. Diouf is to be loaned out in this window, Owen is no where near ready, and all that is left then is Will Keane who is stil learning his trade.
Contract extension can be activated in March. Not sure when the absolute deadline for it is but it can be activated from then so you, acrebo, MrK, Lance and the others are right on that front. It doesn't make any difference to us.
Essentially I don't think I agree with either of you, its probably 50/50. If they wait 6 months they could have him on a free, or he will have another year left and be older and not theirs. If they pay now they will never know.
They couldn't. That's the thing as long as we activate the clause and there's no reason why we shouldn't. It's not a two way street i.e. only the club has to decide whether to activate it or not.
Oh yeah, but I mean the clubs thinking of buying him.
From Bayer Leverkusen point of view. They know we have 3 strikers ahead of him, they know he is on big wages, will we activate his clause? Will we really, when we have Welbeck, Hernandez, Macheda and Owen?
If they wait, they could get their man for free (what is the chance 10% of us letting him go to save wages and space), or they could have wasted 6 months where they could have him (90%) chance except they have to pay.
Sounds like a game of bluff to me.
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Still, the chances of us not activating the clause are remote and I'm sure the clubs thinking of buying him will think the same. So what if we have Welbeck, Hernandez, Macheda and Owen? If at all possible, there's no way we would let Berbatov go on a free. Whether he's sold now or in the summer there's still going to be clubs interested in signing him for a fee.
The likes of Kuszczak there's a chance of going on a free, but Berbatov? I really can't see it.
Me either. I think he will see out the next 1.5 years then go personally.
It's not a game of bluff, though. Well, it's a game of bluff where United get to see what the opponent does first. Which isn't really a game of bluff as far as I'm concerned.
If they don't sell him this window, then it's worth their while activating the extension as long as they think they can get around £6m+ for him in the Summer (that's probably roughly what his wages would be for an extra year, I believe?). I think it's a fair gamble to take, especially when it seems he's happy to play his part when needed.
Am I right in thinking that De Gea and the two Da Silva's will need to be registered in the 25 man squad next season but not this season.
Including Berbatov, Scholes and Fletcher that is 24 players. Not including Macheda, or Jones who I think has another year or Kuszczak.
So when you put it like that, is it worth keeping him? Game of Bluff I tell ya.
Including Berbatov, Scholes and Fletcher that is 24 players. Not including Macheda, or Jones who I think has another year or Kuszczak.
So when you put it like that, is it worth keeping him? Game of Bluff I tell ya.
Ahh but I would say there's a fair chance Scholes won't play on through next season, or have there been murmurings to the contrary? Fletcher still must be a bit of a doubt too, and wouldn't Gibson have freed up a place too?
Yes you're right, those three do have to be registered. Same with Welbeck.
There's been rumours that Scholes could sign for another year, though that's far from certain.
With Fletcher it depends how his illness goes, and Gibson going has freed up a space.
There's been rumours that Scholes could sign for another year, though that's far from certain.
With Fletcher it depends how his illness goes, and Gibson going has freed up a space.
I don't think I counted Gibson, and if the stories are true Scholes may want to last one more year.
Dea Gea, Lindegaard, Amos, - Evra, Ferdinand, Evans, Smalling, Vidic, Fabio, Rafael - Anderson, Giggs, Park, Carrick, Nani, Young, Scholes, Cleverley, Fletcher, Valencia, - Owen, Berbatov, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck = 25
Doesn't include Gibson, Jones, Kuszczak or Macheda
I'd be surprised if Owen was kept on beyond this season.
Out of those, I'd say there's doubts over Owen, Giggs, Scholes and Amos being in the 25 man squad one way or the other.
Current Under 21's on this list are:
David De Gea
Phil Jones
Danny Welbeck
Fabio Da Silva
Rafael Da Silva
Ben Amos
Paul Pogba
Ravel Morrison
Matthew James
The ones in bold need to be registered next season, the rest are fine. Out of those in bold I think Ben Amos will most likely be sold to another club and we promoted a keeper from the reserves to be our new third choice.
David De Gea
Phil Jones
Danny Welbeck
Fabio Da Silva
Rafael Da Silva
Ben Amos
Paul Pogba
Ravel Morrison
Matthew James
The ones in bold need to be registered next season, the rest are fine. Out of those in bold I think Ben Amos will most likely be sold to another club and we promoted a keeper from the reserves to be our new third choice.
Fergie is not always correct. Recently, he stated that Lindegaard is more experienced than de Gea. This is simply an incorrect assertion, and frankly it is embarrassing that Fergie does not know such a basic thing about his own players.
Yup agreed, Amos will get the chance to go on loan for a season and we'll get a new Under 21 keeper, and I think 2 more will be sold or released, most probably Berbatov and Owen.
I don't want to see injury plagued Rio go anywhere
3 players in the summer to "finish" the rejuvenation of the squad.
I don't want to see injury plagued Rio go anywhere
3 players in the summer to "finish" the rejuvenation of the squad.
Although my list did include Fletcher, who simply could take a year off.
Scholes and Owen definitely shouldn't be taking up spots next season. As for this Berbatov thing, seems unlikely we'd let him go in this window unless Fergie has something up his sleeve.
Fergie doesn't have to be correct. Anyone who wants to sign Berbatov in this window will not find out whether the extension is activated or not until after the window closes.
well reasoned responseBerbatov out for £10m(ish)?
Demba Ba in for £10m(ish)?
He's explosive, clearly quality and would fit nicely into our attack while shaving nearly 5 years off Berbatov and offering fantastic resale value.
Just a thought.
Will be sad to see Berbatov go, if this move does take place. However, he does seem to be slipping down the pecking order here, and I think he still has something to offer as a first team player. I'll be keeping an eye out for how he's doing.
And now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go and watch THAT assist against West Ham on a constant loop.
And now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go and watch THAT assist against West Ham on a constant loop.
Would at least keep Owen company in the treatment room when his knee inevitably explodes 30 minutes into his debut
Future Demba Ba Wikipedia stats:
2011-2012: Newcastle United 19 (15)
2012-2013: Manchester United 1 (0)
2013-2017: Manchester City 152 (116)
You shouldn't always take things so literally.
To me it just sounded like Fergie trying to take pressure of his young 'keeper by giving the reason of age/experience for dropping him rather than because he was fecking dodgy against Blackburn.
The club would get more for him with 6+12 months on his contract than with just 12 months. That much is so blindingly obvious.
Imagine selling a small old house thats next to a plot of empty wasteland, but the land will be developed into a beautiful park in march, and all the surrounding properties are being sold to developers to turn in to luxury hotels. Those houses aren't going for cheap two months before the developments start on the basis that they havent started yet.
Its really fecking simple. And no offence for calling you stupid. Im sure you aren't. Just in this instance, well, you are being incredibly.
It's not incorrect, you daft twat. Lindegaard is older, so has been playing football for longer. He might not have played as many top flight games but he's obviously the more experienced keeper (assuming he didn't spend several years in suspended animation)
Just because your older doesn't always really mean your more experienced you can have experienced a certain situation i.e. playing more top flight games and be younger and still be more experienced (in that regard). Get what your saying Pogue but think this is what johnmufc is alluding too.
But it means you can deal with pressure better than a 21-year-old Spaniard who doesn't know English. And now the pressure on our goalkeepers is huge.
Going off his wikipedia page, Lindegaard only played in a handful of games before 2008 which is a surprise. That's about the same time De Gea started playing, albeit for Atlético B.
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Berba is set for Leverkusen talks.
Berba is set for Leverkusen talks.
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Yep, i guess it will be Morrison and Pogba
SAF lieks buying players who have previously merked us and he certainly falls into that bracket.
no chance fergie already stated he won't buy anyone of note in janaury because none are good enough, so I really don't see the logic of letting berba go at this moment of time.