Malaysian Plane crashes over the Ukraine | 17th July 2014

20+ Americans and 50+ Dutch people losing their life confirmed. The plane took off at Amsterdam, meaning there also were a lot of English and French people onboard, possibly Germans. This is going to be one big international disaster.
 
Apparently this is the video of the plane being shot down, but from a good distance.

Only shows ground impact.


 
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Vato said:
RIP to all the victims.

Absolutely mental if it was brought down by the military.
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Hardly military..most likely pro-separatists cnuts. If that's the true story this whole Ukraine/Russia thing is about to get thick as there were Americans and Dutch people on that plane.
 
jojojo said:
BBC showing Youtube footage that includes passport covers and they are blurring parts of pictures presumably due to bodies.

Grim stuff.
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They showed the full IDs of two Dutch kids and one Malaysian man.
 
Ukrainian minster releasing some recording of phone conversation between some Russian army officials.
 
Redo91 said:
Please don't tell me news websites are posting that!
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I don't see the problem with not censoring pictures of dead people in disasters. As long as people are warned they are graphic and have to confirm they're over 18.
 
Redo91 said:
Christ! I didn't think a paper like the DM would stoop that low.
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I guess they thought it was ok because the poor woman was a foreigner.
 
I was watching a Russian stream earlier they showed uncensored bodies in the most sickening conditions, passports and tickets with names fully readable. Unbelievable stuff
 
mikey_d said:
I don't see the problem with not censoring pictures of dead people in disasters. As long as people are warned they are graphic and have to confirm they're over 18.
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Don't you think it's very disrespectful to the dead and their families? This incident only happened in the last few hours. I'm sure there are families that don't know their loved ones are on the plane. Can you imagine if the first they know about it is when they see their body on the news/internet?

SteveJ said:
I guess they thought it was ok because the poor woman was a foreigner.
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Such a joke of a paper.
 
mikey_d said:
I don't see the problem with not censoring pictures of dead people in disasters. As long as people are warned they are graphic and have to confirm they're over 18.
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It's somewhat inconsiderate that some people may find out their loved ones died by seeing their guts spewed out on a field somewhere in rural Ukraine.
 
@Redo91 @Silva Not sure it would be anyone's first reaction to the possible death of a loved one to scour photos hoping to identify a loved one. If they were clearly marked that they are graphic and there was a possibly your loved one was on board then wouldn't you just avoid it.

@Grinner I wouldn't say it was necessary, but just because it's not very pleasant doesn't mean it should be censored as long as people are aware not to look if they don't want to see.

Personally having seen some of the video footage I think it adds alot to the story. How many people have ever seen 100's of dead people. Yes people feel sad at reading that 100's of people died, but to see photos its completely different. Were supposed to have a free press and if people choose to want to see these images then they should be allowed.
 
Distraught brothers, sisters, mothers, lovers and so on won't really be in a state of mind to just avoid it. They're going to, rather understandably, be clinging to every desperate hope they can that their loved ones missed the flight or that it's a different one. They're going to want to know as much as they possibly can.
 
And there's a supposed picture of someone on the flight that uploaded a photo of the plane in case it went missing.
 
Silva said:
Distraught brothers, sisters, mothers, lovers and so on won't really be in a state of mind to just avoid it. They're going to, rather understandably, be clinging to every desperate hope they can that their loved ones missed the flight or that it's a different one. They're going to want to know as much as they possibly can.
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So your saying if people choose to look through graphic photos, as a "rather understandable" coping method by trying to "know as much as they can". Then people shouldn't be free to do so, and the state should stop them doing this?
 
mikey_d said:
So your saying if people choose to look through graphic photos, as a "rather understandable" coping method by trying to "know as much as they can". Then people shouldn't be free to do so, and the state should stop them doing this?
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That's the most bizarre thing I've seen anyone suggest here. The state should, under no circumstance, stop grieving people from searching for information. That's a pretty surefire way to completely feck them emotionally.
 
No matter how it happened, may all the deceased on Malaysa Airlines flight rest in peace. Amin.
It sounds like 24/Jack Bauer type fiction is coming true over the skies of Ukraine :(
Huge ramifications ahead.
 
Ukrainians claim they have intercepted phone calls between pro-Russian separatists and Russian intelligence about the shoot down of the plane.
 
Phil said:
And there's a supposed picture of someone on the flight that uploaded a photo of the plane in case it went missing.
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Yea, Dutch guy on fb. His friends were wishing him good vacation at first and then heard the news. Horrible stuff...
 
CNN Breaking out its experts again

CNN aviation analyst and pilot Miles O'Brien said he thinks it would be difficult to mistake the plane for a military or hostile aircraft.
"A civilian airliner at that level, at that flight path, would be very difficult to mistake for something that has hostile intent," he said.
The wreckage path, O'Brien said, will reveal a lot. If a plane breaks up in midair, which is likely what would happen in a missile strike, there would be a large swath of wreckage, he said, but if it breaks down due to mechanical failure, the debris field would be more concentrated.
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Silva said:
That's the most bizarre thing I've seen anyone suggest here. The state should, under no circumstance, stop grieving people from searching for information. That's a pretty surefire way to completely feck them emotionally.
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That was my point. you said people would want to use the pictures to see if their loved ones were amongst the dead but you initially said pictures should be published.
 
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