American Cops Doing What They Do Best

Who else gets thanked for doing their job? I'm not surprised that you rarely get thanked seeing as you're usually nicking someone.

It's actually a pleasant surprise how often I am thanked. Obviously not usually from the ones being arrested (although a few times that's happened as well) but from random people while on duty, to people I've given tickets to as well.

Amazing what professionalism and a friendly attitude can have.

There's still people that argue and give you shit for doing your job. Just gotta havea thick enough skin to let it roll off your back. Easier said than done sometimes though, admittedly.
 
It's actually a pleasant surprise how often I am thanked. Obviously not usually from the ones being arrested (although a few times that's happened as well) but from random people while on duty, to people I've given tickets to as well.

Amazing what professionalism and a friendly attitude can have.

There's still people that argue and give you shit for doing your job. Just gotta havea thick enough skin to let it roll off your back. Easier said than done sometimes though, admittedly.


I was going to argue that I think a lot of people do thank the police but I have no real evidence of it.

I know I would if they helped me. Shit, there were tons of people at that pool party who thanked rambo because they thought he did a good job.

So do you think he resigned because he knows he'll never ever not be reminded of that tactical roll in the locker room?
 
I know I would if they helped me

I get where you are coming from - but the thing is, they help you every single day and we don't ever take the time to truly understand that. Every criminal they arrest in your neighborhood, every ticket they write to a teenager speeding through the neighborhood, every intersection they direct traffic when signals malfunction and their mere presence in the area in which you live - these things all help us. They make our neighborhoods safer for all - except a few cases.
 
Just as those who feck up hurt us every day, which is why we demand that they are investigated and punished if need be. Their actions can improve or imperil public safety....just remember that.
 
Just as those who feck up hurt us every day, which is why we demand that they are investigated and punished if need be. Their actions can improve or imperil public safety....just remember that.

Well said - and I have never stated otherwise. You are absolutely correct.
 
I was going to argue that I think a lot of people do thank the police but I have no real evidence of it.

I know I would if they helped me. Shit, there were tons of people at that pool party who thanked rambo because they thought he did a good job.

So do you think he resigned because he knows he'll never ever not be reminded of that tactical roll in the locker room?

I remember someone doing a pretty sweet tactical roll at the Academy in the gun range during proficiency testing. Getting it caught in the real world situation on camera is the Holy Grail, man!

Edit: And on a serious note, people can be very appreciative. People have offered to pay for me while grabbing a drink at a gas station, or While grabbing food before shift starts. Obviously I say thank you and decline, but the thought makes me feel like people do appreciate what the majority of us are doing out there.
 
US Police Officer shoots unarmed man through police car window, because: "walking with purpose"

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...r/71010592/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin

A Des Moines police officer fired her service weapon through the rolled-up window of her patrol car on Tuesday night, fatally shooting an unarmed man said to be charging at her car, according to police.
Ryan Keith Bolinger, 28, of West Des Moines, died at the scene from a single gunshot to the torso. Police and witnesses said he led two officers on a slow chase through northwestern Des Moines Tuesday evening that ended with Bolinger exiting his vehicle and coming toward the squad car.
"He was walking with a purpose," Sgt. Jason Halifax of Des Moines Police said following a press conference Wednesday on the shooting.
Senior Police Officer Vanessa Miller, a seven-year veteran, fired the round that killed Bolinger. Miller was assisting Senior Police Officer Ian Lawler, also a seven-year veteran, in the pursuit of Bolinger's vehicle after a bizarre confrontation involving an unrelated vehicle stop that Bolinger interrupted.
Both officers are on administrative leave until the investigation, is completed, per the department policy. The Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation will assist in the investigation.
Halifax said he expects a grand jury ultimately will evaluate the case, though the department is also conducting its own internal investigation. Both Miller and Bolinger are white.

Interrupted traffic stop
Lawler's squad car was parked off the southbound lane of Merle Hay Road near Aurora Avenue after he pulled over a different driver at 10:07 p.m., Halifax said.
About 10 minutes later, Bolinger pulled up in a 2000 Lincoln Sedan alongside Lawler in his patrol car — so close that the officer couldn't open his door. Bolinger got out and started acting "erratically," Halifax said.
"It's been described as almost dancing in the street or making unusual movements in the street," Halifax said at the press conference. "I don't want it to be construed that he's doing a waltz in the middle of Merle Hay Road. ... He's outside of his vehicle. He's not making a directed motion.
"... It's odd, erratic behavior which begins by parking very close to the squad car that's already on a traffic stop and getting out of your vehicle to do whatever he was doing in the street."
Bolinger got back in his car and started driving. Lawler started to pursue Bolinger at about 35 miles per hour, traveling south down Merle Hay Road.
At Urbandale Avenue, about a mile south, Bolinger made a U-turn and stopped abruptly, Halifax said. Lawler pulled in front of Bolinger at an angle to stop him from continuing. Miller stopped a short distance behind Bolinger's car.
In a matter of seconds, Bolinger got out of his car and charged or "walked with a purpose" toward Miller's squad car, Halifax said.
After he was a short distance from Miller's driver's side window, she fired one round, shattering the rolled-up window and hitting Bolinger in the torso.

A Des Moines patrol car at the scene of the fatal shooting is shown with a broken front window. (Photo: Katherine Klingseis/The Register)
Police found no weapons on Bolinger or at the scene. It's unclear whether Miller thought he was carrying something at the time, Halifax said.
"He made a very quick advance toward her car," Halifax said.
Squad cars don't have bulletproof glass or reinforced side panels, Halifax said.
Officers do receive training at the law enforcement academy on how to fire shots from a seated position, such as a patrol vehicle, he confirmed.
"There's never any guarantee that your window's going to remain intact from any type of outside blow ... whether it's from a baseball bat or a rock," Halifax said.

Sgt. Jason Halifax gives a press conference detailing an officer involved shooting that occurred June 9 2015.

Cause of attack unknown
Des Moines police had little prior contact with Bolinger.
He apparently filed a report in April against another person who he said had used his vehicle without permission. He has no criminal record, according to Iowa Courts Online.
Police will try to determine what was happening with Bolinger at the time, including whether it could have been a suicide-by-cop attempt, Halifax said. Police are seeking search warrants to look through his vehicle and cellphone for clues.
Toxicology tests and the autopsy, which are pending, should reveal whether Bolinger had drugs or alcohol in his system.
Reporters visited his West Des Moines home Wednesday morning, but nobody answered the door.

Record of events
Police dash-cam video was rolling at the time of the incident, though it didn't capture the shooting, Halifax said.
Microphones worn by officers were also operating, but that audio won't be available until after the grand jury investigation.
Officers were not wearing body cameras, since the department is still in the process of making those purchases.
"This is an instance where having a body camera would definitely have been an advantage. There are times where I've written things out as an officer but you can't convey the whole situation," Halifax said. "Video can capture the whole moment. That's clearly one of the benefits."

Use of force policy
The Des Moines policy governing use of force sets out specific instances when deadly force can and can't be used.
"The use of deadly force can take many forms ... it all has to do in how an officer perceives a situation and how they feel at the time," Sgt. Jason Halifax of Des Moines Police said. "There's not a hard, fast, this is when you shoot and this is when you don't."

Permitted: They're allowed to fire in five situations: At an approved firing range; to destroy injured or dangerous animals; when legally ordered or authorized to do so by a commanding officer; and when they believe such force is necessary to protect himself or another person from the use or threat of deadly force.
Officers also may use their firearms to arrest someone who is known to have committed a dangerous felony, has threatened or use deadly force and the officer has already made a reasonable attempt to make their intent to arrest known. All other methods of apprehending the person must be exhausted first, and the officer must also believe that discharging their firearms can be done without substantial risk of injury to innocent persons.

Not permitted: Officers are not permitted to use their firearm in three scenarios under department policy: for the purpose of a warning; at moving vehicles except in self-defense or in defense of another officer or third party; or in cases where a warrant is on file, and the identity of the suspect is known to police and their escape would not be an immediate danger to an innocent person or officer.

One-man protest
Allen Thomas, 28, of Waukee showed up to Wednesday's press conference on the police shooting to protest.
He carried a sign that read, "Hey Mr. Po Po ... I'm unarmed and protesting. Are you going to kill me."
"I think this country is turning into a police state," Thomas said. "It would have been more appropriate to use a taser on this suspect."

Police scanners recount shooting
Public police scanner audio between dispatchers and officers chasing shooting victim Ryan Keith Bolinger's car shed some light on what police saw Tuesday night.
Senior Police Officer Ian Lawler first told dispatchers over his radio around 10:17 p.m. that he was following Bolinger's car going southbound on Merle Hay Road past Madison Avenue. He read the license plate over the scanner.
"He pulled up next to me on my traffic stop and started running around on the highway. Then he jumped back in his car, taking off," Lawler said.
Senior Police Officer Vanessa Miller was already trailing the chase at that point, Lawler indicated.
About 45 seconds later, Miller reported that they had crossed Douglas Avenue going about 35 miles per hour, "weaving all over." Dispatch asked if the suspect was a juvenile, to which Lawler stated that he was probably in his 20s or 30s.
Lawer adds that the driver might may be "10-96," which is police code for mentally ill, or "10-55," a drunk driver.
Another 40 seconds later, the trio arrived at Urbandale Avenue.
"Looks like we're going to turn around," Miller stated. "Whoop. Heading back northbound."
That's when Bolinger made a U-turn.
Twenty seconds of silence elapsed before the dispatcher asked where the officers were headed. Miller chimed in, breathlessly restating their location.
The dispatcher asked again whether they were still "running" or pursuing.
Silence.
At about 10:20 p.m., Miller said she was "trying to take one into custody."
Seven seconds later, Lawler reported, "Shots fired. We need rescue."
"We've got a white male, torso, and uh, I'm not sure what the injuries are," Miller told dispatchers about 30 seconds later.
They reported that it was officer-involved shooting, but that police were OK.
"Did an officer fire a shot or did the suspect?" the dispatcher asked.
Six seconds of silence until a male officer responded, "Officer involved. Uh ..."
The dispatcher didn't ask again but started to direct other officers that were called to the scene.
At about 10:25 p.m., police and dispatchers removed the call from the public airwaves.

Artists impression of the man:
haters-gonna-hate.gif
 
Last edited:
They're allowed to fire in five situations: At an approved firing range; to destroy injured or dangerous animals; when legally ordered or authorized to do so by a commanding officer; and when they believe such force is necessary to protect himself or another person from the use or threat of deadly force.
Officers also may use their firearms to arrest someone who is known to have committed a dangerous felony, has threatened or use deadly force and the officer has already made a reasonable attempt to make their intent to arrest known. All other methods of apprehending the person must be exhausted first, and the officer must also believe that discharging their firearms can be done without substantial risk of injury to innocent persons.

That's crazy. There doesn't have to be any actual visible weapon for them to be justified in opening fire, just a "threat". Which is presumably as vague as the police lawyers can make it.
 
That's crazy. There doesn't have to be any actual visible weapon for them to be justified in opening fire, just a "threat". Which is presumably as vague as the police lawyers can make it.

Not all threats of deadly force would necessitate the use of weapons though surely?
 
Yet another one...



Makes you wonder how the feck can anybody excuse this kind of stuff. I mean, even at the start when there's just two of them and the guy's got a teaser up his ass, just cuff him if he's resisting, no need to beat him with the baton. Then another two idiots arrive and start doing same kind of shit. Only thing that was missing and I actually expected was that police car that came by running this guy over.
 
It seems that many cops are just waiting for that chance to use their weapons rather than as a last resort. The woman above was in a car and could have driven off and approached again but she chose to fire her gun from her car at a bloke walking towards her. That's a stupid thing to do in any circumstance.
 
Exactly my point.

I mean like, you could be threatened with a deadly force that doesn't involve a weapon. Like a gang of people looking to tear you apart with their bare hands or something. I'm confused as to what I mean actually. Shamwout.
 
I wonder if it also has to be imminent. When I was on the jury for a murder trial this was a very important component of the law that we had to decide whether it had been met or not.
 
"Thanks officer, I know you just wasted 10 minutes of our precious time on this planet searching me for drugs I finished last night, but keep up the good work." Doesn't really work, not with sincerity of course. I'm sure the odd joe who's bike you get will be thrilled though. Well, not anymore obviously, you won't have half the budget for those crimes from now on presumably.

Every service worker gets treated like shit by the dicks of society, from supermarket shelvers to McDonalds employees to bus drivers. And they won't ever get a tenth the recognition for their jobs.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with that.?
 
Knew this one would get charged.
It seems that the Prosecutor has decided not to charge the officers and take the matter before the Grand Jury.

The judge’s recommendation, however, was brushed aside by Timothy McGinty, the Cuyahoga County prosecutor, who pledged to proceed as planned with having a grand jury decide on whether the officers should be charged.
 
Spare us the tears about having to deal with dicks. And you get far more recognition for doing your job than anyone else in an actually thankless job.

Don't shed any tears dealing with dicks. It's the dead children that kind of gets to you
 
Sometimes those unarmed teenagers can be dangerous after all. Who knew?

http://www.leoaffairs.com/featured/...-of-injured-sergeant-following-public-outcry/

White teenager, so you might not have heard too much about it in the news.
I can understand your desire to show that the police situation is tough, and to steal a line from John Stewart, that it's not all black and white but I'd hardly say he looks like a man who's been beaten nearly unconscious or that they are graphic images. There's maybe a little swelling around his lips and a slight bruising in the corner of his right eye and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's had a nose bleed although his nose doesn't look to be broken and given he shot a skinny teenager 7 times at point blank range the blood could just as easily be the kids.

I've had worse from a single punch when I tried to stop a bloke getting pummeled in a pub and maybe because we're a country with so few guns we're used to seeing images like the one below in our papers more often where he'd been punched 5 times by a fellow teen.
PAY-Brandon-Swann.jpg


I'd certainly not take the photos of the cop as sufficient evidence to not charge him for shooting to death an unarmed teenager he had dragged from his car and tazered over a nothing incident.
 
Wow my face has looked worse than that after being hit just once in the face (and before haha), amazing how bad even a minor cut or graze can look if you just let blood run everywhere and congeal without wiping it.
 
Do you think that's standard cop to cop advice in a situation like that? Let the blood flow. Don't wipe it off. Looks like he's got a small laceration in the middle of his forehead, which could have easily been staunched with a bit of pressure. Not often you see rivulets of blood allowed to dry to a crust like that. Strange photo.
 
Watched the vid. That cop is such an asshole. The kid is being stupid but the whole first minute involves the kid explaining why he flashes his light and they have a stand off for ages with the cop implying he's being lied to, before he finally admits two other cars have flashed him for the same reason and he stopped them both times.

So he's aware his lights are dazzling people (and might be misaligned?) but he keeps on driving round at night, stopping everyone who tries to let him know he's a danger on the road and denying there's any problem with his car during his initial interactions with them.

Then he ends up killing one of them. What a prick.

With the bad reputation American cops have earned for themselves, it's not a big surprise that the kid was scared and irrational when the cop's opening gambit was to lie, during a traffic stop. And now he's dead. Merka, feck yeah.
 
Last edited:
Do you think that's standard cop to cop advice in a situation like that? Let the blood flow. Don't wipe it off. Looks like he's got a small laceration in the middle of his forehead, which could have easily been staunched with a bit of pressure. Not often you see rivulets of blood allowed to dry to a crust like that. Strange photo.

Id take a guess that it's worse than that. If I cut my face like that if have checked it with my hand multiple times leaving wipe marks or whatever I reckon either they pulled a scab off and let it bleed or even worse...
 
The most disturbing part in most of the videos posted is that the police moves to kill not to apprehend someone... In 90% of the cases a shot to the arm or leg will cause any suspect to comply. Instead they fire without any thought of just wounding the guy
 
He didn't seem to have it. Presume that's some sort of minor offence? The whole thing went south from the moment the cop started accusing him of lying. Any semblence of trust was lost from that point onwards.

A bit more than a minor offense. Without a license you have no right to be behind the wheel of a car.
 
A bit more than a minor offense. Without a license you have no right to be behind the wheel of a car.

Well, that depends, no?

Driving without being licensed to do it is probably a crime in most jurisdictions, driving without carrying your license with you when you have a valid one is certainly nothing more than a minor offence or citation.