Juve probably needed the money , we don't really care about it . Out of all the DDG talk I have seen here, your idea that we should have sold him last summer is the worst according to me.
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Juve probably needed the money , we don't really care about it . Out of all the DDG talk I have seen here, your idea that we should have sold him last summer is the worst according to me.
Ramos is a very good player but we get him for €30m and De Gea, once again, Madrid have outplayed us on the negotiation.
A straight swap would be a blinder. A deal like the one AS are floating is Garry Cook style dealing. When we signing Robinho...?
I bloody hope not. If we get Ramos, we should be doing a straight swap. I still think we should leak a list to the press of all the unsettled players. We've probably tested the waters over a few players, so might as well be stir the pot.
Its not about underestimating Ramos. I just value De Gea more. Without him, our defence is much more porous than the numbers suggest.
Juventus never needed the money. They just didn't want Real to rip them off. Also Zidane represented a shrewd piece of business for Juventus. 40m+ for a 29 year old is a shrewd deal indeed.
I dont blame United because a player wants to leave. That happens all the time. I blame United for not protecting themselves for such circumstances. If we end up losing ddg for 15m than someone is to blame and its certainly not the player.
In 25 years of following football I don't remember a worse time to be buying centre backs. The amount of quality in that position has declined so much that the best of what's left, while not a patch on the players of a previous generation, will cost buyers dearly. Luiz going for £50m last year was the most egregious example so far but I think it will be beaten pretty soon. Hummels, Otamendi and now Ramos have all been reported targets of ours and in each case the rumoured cost was comically high.
I wonder what a prime Nesta, Ferdinand or Cannavaro would go for if one could magically appear today.
I wonder what a prime Nesta, Ferdinand or Cannavaro would go for if one could magically appear today.
A straight swap represents their value IMO. De gea is more valuable than Ramos right now but he's got only a year to go which should even things out. Spending 30 million and giving them de gea would be consistent with our dealings with Madrid though.Ramos is a very good player but we get him for €30m and De Gea, once again, Madrid have outplayed us on the negotiation.
A straight swap would be a blinder. A deal like the one AS are floating is Garry Cook style dealing. When we signing Robinho...?
Do we get Val Kilmer too?
Ramos looks so cool. Not Pirlo cool but very cool.
Agree with all of this. Is there a centre back (under 30) playing today who would even be in contention for a top ten list of CBs over the last two, never mind three decades?
As much as he'd improve us, I think it's painfully obvious that he'll sign a new contract at Madrid. Schweinsteiger I feel there is more of a chance of us signing.
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I'm aware of what was said. I pointed out that a fellow poster had already taken that angle.
Hummels (26ish) plus Varane will deffo be that! Unfair really as most of those "top ten" would have played their best years in the age bracket you're discounting!
I don't think Hummels would be even close to that top ten! Varane has the potential, I agree.
But yeah, it's a bit arbitrary, but the thought is that those above 30 and still playing set the bar when they peaked, and will be judged accordingly. Plus, it was in the context of the pool of realistic CB purchases. But I do get your point.
I wouldn't have an issue with that offer. De Gea doesn't want to stay and at least we get one of their best players.
I wasn't taking any angle. I was jesting because of the last time a popular player wanted out to go to Madrid.
Could there be a possibility that united want to use Ramos to up the de gea money , as well as spooking Valencia into think we don't want otamendi anymore , therefore Valencia excepting less than otos buy out ?
I Know, he was jesting too mate. Just pointed out JPRouve beat you to it :P
:PYour OP said "…be in contention…" I was merely stating two that could …
Never knew he played for DortmundI wouldn't want him as our CB.
Yes, yes, there was nothing wrong with your post, I was just stating that I disagree that Hummels would be in contention. Differing opinions are the life blood of discussion forums, don't you think?
My god the state of him.I wouldn't want him as our CB.
My god the state of him.
He's lost the weight again...back to looking somewhat normal.
Loved him in 'The Doors'.
I disagree … no, wait! Oh, I'm not sure any more. What were we talking about?Yes, yes, there was nothing wrong with your post, I was just stating that I disagree that Hummels would be in contention. Differing opinions are the life blood of discussion forums, don't you think?
To be fair he did get a bit:My god the state of him.
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His forehead is is as long as the rest of his face wtf. Ramos should feel insulted...
I'd absolutely luv it if we signed IceMan.
This is on Sky Sports.
Sky Sports expert Jamie Carragher believes Manchester United fans would be wrong to object to the possible arrival of Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos at Old Trafford.
Who is objecting?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...mos-criticism-undeserved-says-jamie-carragher
Sky Sports expert Jamie Carragher believes Manchester United fans would be wrong to object to the possible arrival of Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos at Old Trafford.
Who is objecting?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...mos-criticism-undeserved-says-jamie-carragher
Carragher talking shit as usual?
Carragher earning his salary I see.
Apparently some United fans on TalkSport were saying they didn't want him. You've even got a few on here objecting it.
I think it's probably the price that the people are complaining about, not the player Jamie, get a grip!
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/feb/10/sergio-ramos-manchester-united?CMP=share_btn_tw interesting interview from the time we played Real Madrid in the cl, nice words about United and how his Dad has a soft spot for United
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