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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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I was wondering how ehsanul was going to spin the recent reports. Tancredi is just listing his own opinions, he doesn't know any more tha anyone else.
 
Why are people choosing to believe Big Tanc and AS over the Di Marzio crew, who say that whilst Madrid may be interested, they can't afford it?

I thought Di Marzio et all were considered way more reliable than the Tanc.
 
Santos Marquez(Eto'o and Makalele's agent) said in the past that Perez didn't like black players. It may be because he was bitter, but who knows, it could be true
 
Here we go again. Joy late night, negativity through the day. Its like a vicious circle, just like all the failed transfers go.

Yes but everyone knows how things pan out. Let's suppose Madrid told the truth and won't pay the money. Does anyone here actually think Madrid will disappear out of the narrative? No. But they feed on negative people. They feed on people who react to every tiny bit of news -true or otherwise. Interesting though isn't it? At no point have they said Madrid have an agreement with Pogba or his agent. It'll be fine :)

Ignore people saying him delaying maybe him waiting on them, they would have an agreement
 
I haven't read the debate but for me the whole stuff such as "X player is more marketable and therefore higher value" is rubbish (except when the said player is from a relatively untapped market, say like Kagawa or a Chinese/Indian player). As you said, the pure marketing value of a player is minuscule compared to the overall spending on the player. So if I am getting a player who is demonstrably better than another at the same price, I buy the first player regardless of any other consideration.

For any top tier club such as ours, winning trophies consistently is much more valuable than anything else. From a pure financial perspective, the revenue growth potential of a winner club over time is much higher than another top club, which say, qualifies for CL every year. And therefore any top player that will help in winning trophies would always command a premium valuation commensurate to the growth potential.

As an example, if we consider Cantona to be a key factor in our success in early nineties that allowed us to create a gap between us and Liverpool, how much value would we subscribe to him going back? I would say he would be immensely valuable (in 1990s prices of course) irrespective of his marketing potential.

I agree, and that is the point I was trying to make. From the club's perspective what really makes real difference in winning stuff, not simply getting a marketable player. Take for example the the Adidas deal, which is a minimum £750m guaranteed over a 10 year period that goes up or down based on our performance. We lose 30% of the payment due for the year if we are out of the CL for 2 consecutive seasons but we get an extra sum if we win the league or the champions league in a season. They have a get out clause if the club is relegated during the length of the deal. I am guessing most deals are structured that way.

 
Why are people choosing to believe Big Tanc and AS over the Di Marzio crew, who say that whilst Madrid may be interested, they can't afford it?

I thought Di Marzio et all were considered way more reliable than the Tanc.
I'd say it's due to the past history of Madrid wanting someone and getting them without trouble.
They see Madrids name mentioned against a player who we're after, and start to panic. After Vidal, Thiago, Sneijder etc, muppets have become fragile
 
This. Well put and I think you're spot on RE: Scholes and co.

Odd that you think he is spot on with that speculative post when he conveniently omits that :
- Pogba was totally over-run and looked clueless in the few matches he was handed game time (which were against rather poor opposition)
- That the Pogba that plays/played at Juve does not play in Scholes or Carricks position.
- That season we were in a tight title race that we ended up losing, Would you give a young player that previously showed he couldn't cope against poor opposition game time? (The drawback being totally crushing his confidence, because he'd have got abuse if he played like he did in his first games, and he'd have been hooked too).

But for some it is an agenda, whereas proof was in the pudding. The funny thing is that the Euro's proved he still can't play in central midfield.
 
I'd say it's due to the past history of Madrid wanting someone and getting them without trouble.
They see Madrids name mentioned against a player who we're after, and start to panic. After Vidal, Thiago, Sneijder etc, muppets have become fragile

Ah, but how many of those actually went to Madrid....
 
Looks like Zidane has confirmed Pogba interest,dont think we will be able to sign him now.We should have closed the deal ages ago,same old Mr Woodward.

Mediaset are reporting Juventus board think that Madrid will make a counter offer for Pogba.I guess the deal is evenly poised.

Barca have signed Gomez,so does it bring Madrid back in the contention for Pogba? I hope not.

Can anyone fill me with optimism.Looks like we are about to lose out on another player to Madrid.

Mate El Confidential has written in their newspaper that Zidane and Pogba got in touch last night.They say Pogba is more inclined to join Madrid.

Jonas Giæver ‏@CheGiaevara 2m2 minutes ago
Onda Cero are speculating whether or not the failure to sign André Gomes now "activates the Pogba option" for Real Madrid. Might go back in.

Chippy Rick ‏@Ch1ppyR1ck 11m11 minutes ago
So @tancredipalmeri on @talkSPORTLive says #RMCF are going big for #Pogba

A poster said this is what he said.I hope this is not true.

According to Tancredi and Spanish press Madrid are back in for Pogba.If Madrid are back in then we know how it will end up.

:lol: ffs
 
Odd that you think he is spot on with that speculative post when he conveniently omits that :
- Pogba was totally over-run and looked clueless in the few matches he was handed game time (which were against rather poor opposition)
- That the Pogba that plays/played at Juve does not play in Scholes or Carricks position.
- That season we were in a tight title race that we ended up losing, Would you give a young player that previously showed he couldn't cope against poor opposition game time? (The drawback being totally crushing his confidence, because he'd have got abuse if he played like he did in his first games, and he'd have been hooked too).

But for some it is an agenda, whereas proof was in the pudding. The funny thing is that the Euro's proved he still can't play in central midfield.

You are going too much by the Euros I think. It is remarkable to think that he was not ready to be played in the United team even when all other central midfielders were injured, after he did what he did at Juventus. Clearly the player was justified in thinking that he was entitled to the first team. Also I don't remember that Pogba was that clueless or was overrun in United's first team.
 
Santos Marquez(Eto'o and Makalele's agent) said in the past that Perez didn't like black players. It may be because he was bitter, but who knows, it could be true
IMO it's definitely true. They don't have any other black players on the current roster. No chance does he want a black man being their record signing IMO.
 
Marcelo? Previously, Drenthe, Lass, Adebayor.
Marcelo isn't an african - that's what I meant. Adebayor a short term loan, Lass got rid off, Drenthe not good enough got rid off. Perez isn't the chairman every time rememeber. Other players can be signed by Valeron.
 
I'd say it's due to the past history of Madrid wanting someone and getting them without trouble.

Guess they weren't paying attention this summer then. We've already beaten them for 1 player, De Gea.. All year we heard how he was definitely off to Madrid this summer.
 
This may just be done. The Real Madrid reports have no weight - I'm convinced.
 
Odd that you think he is spot on with that speculative post when he conveniently omits that :
- Pogba was totally over-run and looked clueless in the few matches he was handed game time (which were against rather poor opposition)
- That the Pogba that plays/played at Juve does not play in Scholes or Carricks position.
- That season we were in a tight title race that we ended up losing, Would you give a young player that previously showed he couldn't cope against poor opposition game time? (The drawback being totally crushing his confidence, because he'd have got abuse if he played like he did in his first games, and he'd have been hooked too).

But for some it is an agenda, whereas proof was in the pudding. The funny thing is that the Euro's proved he still can't play in central midfield.

Good post. Likely to fall on deaf ears. You know times are desperate when people buy into Donaldish's....oops...devilish's hate filled tin foil bollocks.
 
Guess they weren't paying attention this summer then. We've already beaten them for 1 player, De Gea.. All year we heard how he was definitely off to Madrid this summer.
Seems like this summer things aren't going as smoothly as they'd like.
To be fair, if they wanted De Gea, they could have had him easily. He had his release clause and they chose not to activate it. If they had, i imagine he'd have been gone, but with Mourinho incoming, he could have rejected them anyway, who knows.
Normally if they want a player, they get them though - Ronaldo, Bale, Modric, Kroos, Benzema to name but a few. Real want, Real usually get. This summer it seems they can't match our spending power, but it doesn't stop us getting worried if they do get linked
 
Good post. Likely to fall on deaf ears. You know times are desperate when people buy into Donaldish's....oops...devilish's hate filled tin foil bollocks.

Good job he'll slot in just nicely into Rooney's place isn't it? :)
 
Quick question. why are people so sure his preference is Madrid? Is it just because they are not United?

As far as i'm aware, he was pretty close to signing for Barcelona last year but the ban and figures involved stopped the move. Now a year later and he loves Madrid and would only join us cos of money?

Barring the kid that has grown up in Salford dreaming of playing for his beloved Reds, would anyone (all other things being roughly equal) choose United over Real or Barca? Better climate, better shopping, better quality of life generally, the opportunity to play with some of the very best players on earth in a good quality league.
I think we're realistically in the market for players that those two clubs either don't want, or are not prepared to financially compete for.
Plus, lets not forget that we're talking about a bloke who's already walked out on us once, which might lead us to infer something about his commitment to playing for United.
 
Marcelo? Previously, Drenthe, Lass, Adebayor.

I don't think Perez is a racist or doesn't want to sign black players at all or will get rid of all of them but it wouldn't shock me if he doesn't see a black player as his perfect galactico signing. Pogba would be the perfect Perez signing with the fee and the hype around him plus Zidane, so maybe there is sone truth in it. At the end we are talking about a guy, who wants to pay a record for marketin reasons or who sacked a succesful manager, because his look doesn't suit the club. Also some rumours that he prefers good looking players and that could be the reason why he didn't want to give Di Maria a big pay rise. Maybe everything is bs, but you never know with Perez.
 
Think people are forgetting just how much bullshit Palmeri spouts as a whole. He might be an actual journalist, but I wouldn't pay attention to what he's saying.
 
Odd that you think he is spot on with that speculative post when he conveniently omits that :
- Pogba was totally over-run and looked clueless in the few matches he was handed game time (which were against rather poor opposition)
- That the Pogba that plays/played at Juve does not play in Scholes or Carricks position.
- That season we were in a tight title race that we ended up losing, Would you give a young player that previously showed he couldn't cope against poor opposition game time? (The drawback being totally crushing his confidence, because he'd have got abuse if he played like he did in his first games, and he'd have been hooked too).

But for some it is an agenda, whereas proof was in the pudding. The funny thing is that the Euro's proved he still can't play in central midfield.

This is a good post. I just hope in his return we play to his strengths rather than try to accommodate him into a system that doesn't bring out his best.