Ah, but he went back into the pc room to argue that according to his stats, really it was 42% and therefore not your lowest recorded the PL era.
Almost like none of this has rattled him at all.
Jose : "They are not the last wonder of the world like you say they are"
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Ah, but he went back into the pc room to argue that according to his stats, really it was 42% and therefore not your lowest recorded the PL era.
Almost like none of this has rattled him at all.
We all get it, you are very dissapointed with our performance, Jose, and the players.
If you guys watched the interview, you'd know that he also praised the setup of their defence immediately after the wonder of the world quip.
His point was people go on about their attack like it's the wonder of the world but they also defended well in the game by playing with two defensive minded midfielder in Henderson and Can. I think he got caught by surprise at that, and seems to hint that's the reason Pogba was subdued.
I prefer his closing statement. "2 shots with 65% possession, you have to be critical of Liverpool, not of us....65% possession, 2 shots...? It's their problem, not our problem." Brilliant.
His point was people go on about their attack like it's the wonder of the world but they also defended well in the game by playing with two defensive minded midfielder in Henderson and Can. I think he got caught by surprise at that, and seems to hint that's the reason Pogba was subdued.
I prefer his closing statement. "2 shots with 65% possession, you have to be critical of Liverpool, not of us....65% possession, 2 shots...? It's their problem, not our problem." Brilliant.
The Liverpool teams Van Gaal played and the team we played yesterday are leagues apart in terms of quality. We were shite under Van Gaal, but not nearly as bad as them under Rodgers post Suarez.
Mouhrino is a pragmatic above else, but this notion that hes "defensive" and only out to park the bus and destroy games is pure hyperbole. Chelsea 14/15 played some scintillating attacking football. It's true Mou has set up very defensively against the likes of Barcelona, but doing otherwise is just tactical suicide
I have not said it with this game at all. I think it is a decent performance.
It is just gloating and mocking. It just amuses me. I would gloat myself when we play and dominate them like a boss and win. For this kind of performance, I take it as better than against city and hope we will do better in the future.
Massive difference betweenn being a hater and just not wanting to lower my expectations down. Why should I? We have gotten a world class manager ourselves with shit loads of money to spend. It is not like we have moyes.
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Firminio cramped up as well. So did Coutinho and these players are supposed to be used to the pressing style!
We didn't have Martial and Mkhi to bring on late to try to use pace with fresh legs against their tired legs. That was a big difference and that is why we decided to concede possession secone half.
We are 7th and the league finished yesterday. Oh what can we do now!
What is this 'parking the bus' nonsense? We dominated the proceedings in the first half. Second half we mostly defended because, tactically, at this stage of the league, it is better to split points and share honours against a good team at their home ground, than lose and take nothing away. This moaning is becoming tiresome.
The performance yesterday was so much better than what I have seen from teams under Sir Alex at Anfield. Teams which comprised of Tevez, Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes, prime Rooney and Csrrick - in attack. Rio, Vidic, Evra, VDS - defense.
That team would get absolutely run over and would require a jammy goal to get us over the line. Never heard of this kind of embarrassment which people seem to be feeling.
It's like people have forgotten this is still away at Anfield. We were in control pretty much throughout and were hardly troubled. I think we were very good. It's the Stoke result which rankles, not the one we had yesterday.
We did well to frustrate the crowd, but it was Klopps mistake to start Sturridge and to have their front four so stretched, which is just not their game. It was no coincidence they looked much better when he went off. I think that was the biggest factor.
heh, not sure if i or anyone said embarrassment in this thread.
And this performance was SO MUCH better than teams under SAF at anfield? wow hold it there. Did you start watching us in 2012 or something and putting all those players names randomly to make your argument look more credible?
And LVG played them off the park on his first season at anfield. What do you call that kind of performance?
Only caught the first half but what I saw was pretty much what I expected under Mou for United, surprised many are pleased with the performance rather than desperate for something memorable to get behind
I agree, in the first half we took the game to them and played with a lot of energy. By the second half we looked spent so had to play completely differently - this is probably what is clouding some's perception of the game.
A lot of upset people in here considering we got a point away to arguably the most in form team in the league right now, not to mention that the home team were Liverpool at Anfield. Fergie would have done the exact same, our gameplan was almost perfect. If Zlatan would have found the target with that header we'd of walked away with all three points.
Stop using this game as an excuse to bash Mourinho.
Stop using this game as an excuse to bash Mourinho.
Thank de Gea? He had 2 saves to make all game, one of which was a moment of individual brilliance from Coutinho. You'd be thanking Coutinho for the win if that went in because you didn't create much for all your possession besides that. Unless you're putting everything on the Can chance in which case we would be talking about Ibra too whose chance was much easier. De Gea has saved our asses plenty of times over the past few seasons, yesterday night wasn't one.
It's great when opposition fans try to keep it real for us.
Especially that one.
Being an Arsenal fan is a problem for anyone, perhaps he should concern himself with that first.
Some people would look down on you for celebrating a 0-0 home draw, but at least you're honest.
If I was a Liverpool fan, I'd be relieved that we got through that game with a point.
They were utterly dominated at home in the first half especially and should've lost the game.
Yeah because the team which I mentioned played in 2012 thus I must have started watching United from 2012. Are you like 7?
The team which LVG faced was not the same one. Klopp gave LVG a hiding in Europa. Were you sleeping that time?
As for my argument. Our last strongest team comprised of those players and they actually were played off the park at Anfield and Vidic was taken apart by Torres multiple times. Do you have a memory of a gold fish or are you being purposefully obtuse?
Completely agree, there's no pleasing some people though. We could've won 4-0 yesterday and fans on here would complain we didn't score 5.
Well not everyone can play like Barca. We were dominant in the first half without any clear cut chances. Not sure what game you saw.
I don't know why the play has to automatically resemble that of Barcelona because I weigh in, there's a lot of great football being played around the world that isn't Barcelona.
Liverpool were better than United last night, IMHO, but didn't ultimately do enough to earn 3pts. I think both teams, fans & coaches should be disappointed with the match even if they are content with sharing the points. From a sporting perspective, it was of a poor level - worse considering the Monday night showcase it had to show the qualities of both enormous clubs
Well we were playing in their half and dominating territory in that period. I reckon a lot of people would have expected us to park the bus and camp in our area like on those memorable night in the Nou Camp for Chelsea and Inter.
Not even remotely disappointed.
Yes Mourinho went out to stifle Liverpool by picking Young and Fellaini.
Yes we went downhill a bit second half.
But ultimately, everyone in the media told us how Liverpool would roll over us and how poor we were and, well, a point was a fair result for both sides.
We will only get better as the season goes on, I'm extremely confident about that.
Yes Mourinho went out to stifle Liverpool by picking Young and Fellaini.
Yes we went downhill a bit second half.
But ultimately, everyone in the media told us how Liverpool would roll over us and how poor we were and, well, a point was a fair result for both sides.
We will only get better as the season goes on, I'm extremely confident about that.
One shot on target all game.
6 touches in our box. I love this forum. Whatever it is you're feeding yourselves, keep nonoming. Mmm it's lovely - your season starts here. If you squint hard enough 7 looks like a 1.
2 points. We had 18 after 6 games last season.
Eh, you are asking me if I was 7? And asking me IF i have a memory of a gold fish. LOL
Have you seen your arguments and points in your own post? I mean seriously.
Also we have one group who say form goes out of equation when we meet them anywhere no matter who their players and managers were in any era.
Then we have another group who say well it is always hard in anfield except when LVG beat them there. I would bring up Moyes too if he ever actually won against them with us with a good performance.
That Coutinho save was kind of bread and butter save for De Gea, he is the master of those 'high into the corner of the net' saves. More praiseworthy (for De Gea especially) is his save from Can, which was through a jungle of legs.
Why does everybody think parking the bus is an easy job? Its a very tactical play and not easy. If it was , every relegation fodder team would do it . It is not easy, Jose should be applauded for a job well done.
How difficult is it for you grasp a simple point? I have seen worse performances from us at Anfield even when we had perhaps the best team in Europe. Yesterday we may not have created a lot but we were always in control and actually dominated the first half.
Is that easy enough for your comprehension?
How the wormed has turned that Mourinho, oft-rated as the best manager in the world, with probably the most expensive side in the world, with the most expensive player, can talk about Liverpool not being the wonder of the world, after coming away without scoring and giving us our first clean sheet of the season! It wasn't that long ago that his own side were hyped up (not least by their own fans on here) as being this years league winners - and now he's boasting about how he came away with a point by parking the bus. Big Sam would've laughed at that one. In fact, it wasn't that long ago when Mou's sacked predecessor won twice at Anfield.
Honestly, that sort of comment might have some merit coming from the manager of Sunderland had they played us last night (...), but from Mou? Just another example of his complete lack of self-awareness.
Honestly, that sort of comment might have some merit coming from the manager of Sunderland had they played us last night (...), but from Mou? Just another example of his complete lack of self-awareness.
Lol at the Pool fan jumping for joy at full time.
Jumping for joy that you missed out on going joint top? Lol. Surely you'd be gutted, it doesn't happen often.
Jumping for joy that you missed out on going joint top? Lol. Surely you'd be gutted, it doesn't happen often.
Well unless the season ended yesterday and you are champions, I don't get all this gloating. Considering you lot were pretty crap considering all the tall talk from some of your supporters about how you would press us into mistakes and hammer us. Your lot couldn't handle our pressing the entire first half.One shot on target all game.
I love this forum. Whatever it is you're feeding yourselves, keep nonoming. Mmm it's lovely - your season starts here. If you squint hard enough 7 looks like a 1.
Not really. He is trying to create a siege mentality by creating the narrative that the media are against us. The worm hasn't turned at all, he always does this.
It was @Dumbstar
Admit is son, hang your head.
One shot on target all game.
I love this forum. Whatever it is you're feeding yourselves, keep nonoming. Mmm it's lovely - your season starts here. If you squint hard enough 7 looks like a 1.
And what did all those touches and shots you had get you? Nothing. It was a 0-0 draw like Mourinho played for. All the what ifs in the world won't change it.
He was probably expecting the Red Arrows as Phil Thompson likes to describe you lot. Didn't take off last night though. Gegenconfused.
Dumbstar's a well known embarrassment tbf.
I wouldn't take anything he says seriously. He'll be devastated at the shit-show Liverpool served up as the home team.
One shot on target all game.
I love this forum. Whatever it is you're feeding yourselves, keep nonoming. Mmm it's lovely - your season starts here. If you squint hard enough 7 looks like a 1.
As compared with a whole 9 shots that Liverpool had.
Not saying united played well but nil nil was quite fair and I would be devastated if I was a Liverpool fan like you. Man Utd will only get better, I'm not sure your side will.
Mourinho did the right thing in setting up like he did because if had gone there naively we'd have played into their hands and got ourselves mauled. Forget the cost of the squad, the simple fact is that we aren't playing well enough as well as not yet settled as a team to really get to the point where the team is not susceptible to a string of poor results affecting morale. If we emerge from these two fixtures 5-8 points behind the leaders it's not disastrous as compared to coming out having lost two in two.
Probably more his point that you as the home team, with the onus to attack, were too afraid to do so. And United were extremely comfortable.
Liverpool will be nowhere near as comfortable at OT, and United will show far more attacking intent than negative Liverpool did last night.