I wondered why he was talking gibberish but it was probably in protest of the English language being so heavily influenced by foreign cultures historically.
Question Time & This Week
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Like Ed Balls so far.
"Remoaner" is useful in that it tells you straight away that the person using it is a prick.
Interesting point about Davidson, admittedly most of the time I hear her it's on UK-wide issues rather than Scotland-specific (aside from independence). Does she run into problems on that, aside from general Toryness? I noticed a Scotland poll out the other day that had the Tories ahead of Labour by over 10%, so I may be wrong but it seems to be moving into a direction of the Tories picking up more and more of the No camp, and that being the new dynamic up there.
And when challenged about why he didn't like this, the problem was apparently that english speaking parents were taking exception to it and it was that causing the tension! Tolerance running in short supply, it seems.
Pretty much, yeah. The reduction of one of the biggest political issues of our generation to nothing more than playground insults.
And on Davidson, she's still solid on a lot of Scottish issues, but naturally gets much less of a free run and Sturgeon is more than a match to her. Davidson's problem now, mainly, is that many of her beliefs and stances are completely at odds with the rest of her party.
She's pretty much the epitomy of Cameron's sort of modernised Tory party: relatively liberal (being gay herself), pro-European, pro-globalisation, with some light Tory economics thrown in. Something akin to a Merkel-type figure, really. This was fine for her when Cameron was in charge, but now we've got a largely anti-EU party wanting to reduce immigration, I think there's some conflict there in that it's a party that doesn't really represent her, or probably speak for her, all that much anymore. There were rumours of a Scottish Tory split if Boris got power, but even with the mob we've got now it's clear she doesn't align with them. Like the other Scottish parties, she's trying to defend her vision of the union that isn't going to exist soon.
The 10% ahead figure seems to be more Labour slipping further and further behind, with the Tories making minimal movement: the Greens seemed to have gained in recent figures here.
She made plenty of good points tonight, and reiterated her commitment to being pro-European, but like with other parties it's all a bit pointless now Brexit's happening. Her words seem kind of pointless when she's still backing the party who are going through with this.
Also she largely benefits from a fairly preferential media: compared to the intense criticism the SNP often get, as well as Labour, she gets an easy ride. Again, she's strong anyway, but probably looks better than she is because her position is kind of like what the Lib Dems used to be: a party around 20-25% who have influence and support but aren't going to be in power.
Zac Goldsmith has lost his Richmond seat
LibDems are back!
Yep. The good people of Richmond Park took no notice of the 'referendum on Heathrow' angle and instead went with the Remainer. Zac's been kicked in two big elections recently. Brutal stuff.
Goldsmith 
Christian Wolmar sticking the boot in now. Zac's taking one hell of a beating here.
A small win for liberals in 2016
A very good result for the Liberals.
Diane Abbott likes the word, 'extrapolate'
Also evident that the massive swings seen for the Lib Dems in local by-elections are real. Question now is whether it's just protest or an actual recapturing of support. They're still at general election levels in the polls.
I agree with Diane Abbott (holy shit) that the pro-Remain message will work less well for the Lib Dems outside London and most other cities. They'll need something else to sell to the rest of the country at the next General Election.
Less well, yes, but they don't need such savage swings to win back seats elsewhere like in their old heartlands of the south west. At the moment there's a clear appetite for a party that's fully supportive of the EU, particularly with UKIP still getting plenty of airtime, the government insisting upon everyone the tautological certainty of Brexit, and Labour continuing to dig itself a roomy grave. They won't win a general election, but they could top 20% quite easily I'd have thought.
The stupidity of Goldsmith got what it deserved, yet it will make Tim Farron happy so that is a downside. On a positive note, i'd expect this to cool the rebellious inclinations of other Remainer Tories.
And where Stephen Phillips would have potentially been a problem in the Commons, one would expect his local party to put forward a more suitable candidate as his replacement.
And where Stephen Phillips would have potentially been a problem in the Commons, one would expect his local party to put forward a more suitable candidate as his replacement.
Good point, they can still aim at 48% of the electorate (plus however many regretful Leavers there are) and any Brexit turbulence we encounter can be leapt upon to bolster their message. My concern for them is that being overtly, 100% pro-Remain now and on past March will look more and more like yesterday's policy after Article 50 is triggered. If they can delay or even scrap the triggering of Article 50, good for them and the country is their oyster, but I doubt that will happen so tying themselves to pro-Remain policy and 'second referendum'-type measures will make them look like a whinging fringe rabble fighting yesterday's battle.
The host was very annoying, but she beat Sarah Olney into submission there.
Goldsmith tried to run a Middle England campaign for Mayor of London, and is still rightly hated for it. Richmond was always partial to a Lib Dem swing in the right circumstances. Converting Tory outliers in urban parts of the south means little in the grand scheme of things though, sadly. But at least us Londoners can take solace in being the only people to vote against a racist, right wing media backed smear campaign, fronted by an entitled pillock, in 2016.
Brap brap!
Brap brap!
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Cthulhu, any time now is fine, just end it all.
Wow that is the panel from hell. Maybe swap Wollaston with Alec Shelbrooke for the full effect.
Suppose it goes in circles. Next week they're lightening up the mood a bit: Joseph Goebbels, David Moyes, Eric Bristow, the guy from the Go Compare advert and a live snake.
Terrible panel.
Wonder what the subject will be with this panel. Getting a bit bored with Trump or Brexit dominating Question Time, but it could be fun watching them tear into each other.
It'll definitely be Brexit, as it will for the next few years unfortunately. I'm sure there'll also be discussion about Farage's personal (and possibly professional) relationship with Trump. So Brexit with a side order of Trump it is.
Is it bad that every time I see Will Self I think of @WillAbsolute?
(Also how the hell do you tag people? I thought it was just sticking an @ sign in front, yet now find this is clearly wrong)
(Also how the hell do you tag people? I thought it was just sticking an @ sign in front, yet now find this is clearly wrong)
Is it bad that every time I see Will Self I think of @WillAbsolute?
(Also how the hell do you tag people? I thought it was just sticking an @ sign in front, yet now find this is clearly wrong)
Dunno. The two Wills are fairly far apart on the political spectrum.
@Will Absolute has a space in his name.Is it bad that every time I see Will Self I think of @WillAbsolute?
(Also how the hell do you tag people? I thought it was just sticking an @ sign in front, yet now find this is clearly wrong)
My safe space.
Much needed if I dip a toe into the Current Events forum and Pogue or Grinner are loose.
Hopefully Will Self is drunk again.
Looking forward to learning new words tonight. All that panel is missing is Peter Hitchens.
Pete Doherty on This Week?