Sent off my test on Saturday still not heard anything back. Last test I did was walk in and got the results the next day.
Frustrating.
Frustrating.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I work in hospitality, a busy venue. The only time I've seen family this year properly is when infection rates have been low.
There's a bit of me that feels like you're wumming, such is the self centred nature of this series of posts. If not, people like you are a large reason why we're having to do this again. I take it no one in your circle of family and friends have been affected seriously by this virus? They can't have been, otherwise you wouldn't be spouting such self centred drivel as this. Everyone on this forum and beyond are having their lives affected by Covid restrictions. No point in blaming anyone for the situation we're in other than ourselves.
Every person in this country has known for months now a) how infectious this virus is b) how deadly it can be c) how it's transmitted and d) how to slow or stop the spread and yet here we are. There are those that have understood this and behaved accordingly and there are others that are just unable to look beyond their own beaks, pretty clear where you stand.
There's part of me that tries to think that all world leaders are dealing with unheard of troubles and try and give them all the benefit of the doubt in this unparalleled difficult time but I wish he'd just develop the balls and ability to give bad news straight away and stick to a decision. He seems only able to deliver bad news after weeks of telling us he won't deliver bad news. This has been a pattern with him all year and it just makes everything worse.
Two options:
1) Start of December, 'sorry folks, we've looked at the data and decided we need to enter a full lockdown prior to, and over Christmas'
or
2) Start of December, 'Things are tough right now but it would be inhumane to stop people having a Christmas, we'll relax measures for 5 days'. Then, 5 days before Christmas 'sorry folks, we've looked at the data and decided we need to enter a full lockdown prior to, and over Christmas'.
Both are bad, but one is terrible! Boris seems totally unable to just give us bad news.
Good.
Why?
I didnt mean it in that way. Its just an expression. I have edited for clarification
He is. He's a massive wum in pretty much every thread I see him in.
Don't feed the wum.
Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted springs to mind. The rest of the country will only be a couple of week behind the south with this new variant especially with Christmas mixing. A January national lockdown seems inevitable but hopefully extending the school holiday period will be enough.
You do realise part of this guys complaint is that he can't go out on a piss up with his mates ? This means the government are robbing him of his late 20's
The guy isn't Howard Hughes sitting at home pissing into bottles.
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Please read my post properly before commenting. I said it was "relatively safe" the key word here is relatively and I used it in the context of visiting close family, during the months when infection rates were very low.
I do take your point that some peoples consciences are clear if they are not breaking the law. But I suspect many of those breaking the rules ,but not the law, are being disingenuous and would probably break the rules regardless. I think we can agree that this Government is entirely responsible for the mixed messaging, however, the advise from the medical advisors has been largely consistent. The medical advisors are the key here. They've consistently advised that large scale social contact is not without considerable risk. Even during the months of low infection rates.
I don't know about you or your local MP (they might even be half decent) but who's surgery would you rather attend if you needed medical advice your GPs surgery or your MPs surgery?
Thats what we need to drum into people.
Lockdown should be starting on 26th in the UK, why we are waiting for it to become a bigger issue is beyond me.
Shut it down for 6 weeks, vaccine as much as possible, slowly ease restrictions in mid-Feb and we slowly 'return to normal'.
Also stunned by the number of selfish cnuts on my insta who are paying no attention to any guidance.
Shut it down for 6 weeks, vaccine as much as possible, slowly ease restrictions in mid-Feb and we slowly 'return to normal'.
Also stunned by the number of selfish cnuts on my insta who are paying no attention to any guidance.
The government constantly delaying measures, as they have all year, is utterly mind boggling. Announce it now it's lockdown from Boxing day, and just get on with it. Instead we all know its coming, but we're just waiting around for them to actually put it into place.
Seems kinda pointless without an all island ban though.
EDIT: Well, not pointless, obviously it will help, but not nearly as much as it could
28th or thereabouts would be completely uneducated guess.
It should be Boxing Day but it will probably be 1st of Jan. they review on the 30th December don’t they?
36,000 confirmed cases and 691 deaths today. Is is still an administrative error? 
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Girl at work hasn't had result back since Friday. She did walk in
Imagine if all you live for in your 20's is house parties...
3.4 days on average for test returns (up from 2.9 only a couple of weeks ago). Wouldn't surprise me if you're at 4-5 days for a test return.
The only question is whether they've learnt their lesson that locking down earlier is preferable.
A bloke on Reddit (I know), says he's at 7 days currently waiting for his results.
At a point where you isolate for over a week to be told you didn't have it on the first place.
36.8k new cases
691 deaths
68.3k deaths in total.
A real chance we will hit 70k on Xmas Day
691 deaths
68.3k deaths in total.
A real chance we will hit 70k on Xmas Day
The same Boris that ousted May by saying he had an oven ready deal for Brexit. Honestly how does anyone believe a word out of his mouth?
He's setting that country back generations
Oh sure yeah. Look I don’t think you’ll find anyone outside of the government and their really devoted supporters that will say they’ve handled it well. The people that they have in some of the most critical positions are there simply because they’re Brexiteers. They are legitimately not competent enough to deal with the tasks they’re given and we have suffered for it. That’s negligent in normal times and catastrophic in a crisis. But the population chose these people. They are a reflection of the citizenry.
The point wasn’t a defence of the government, they’re shite, it was just to establish that a lot of more competent governments have struggled an awful lot with this, and there are a lot of other incompetent governments in the world. This is an incredibly difficult situation and it is not at all uncommon that the exceptionally high level of competence required to deal with it just isn’t there. That isn’t a unique UK problem. Balancing these decisions is tough and we don’t have limitless resources to make a few mistakes and avoid punishment for it. Almost every country in the same position has been punished for that. It doesn’t matter whether you’re Sweden, Germany or Italy.
Saying the UK is the worst is a silly point scoring competition. Saying they are doing so much worse than anyone else would have done in that position is factually incorrect. We have too much information on the responses of other countries for that to be considered a legitimate claim. You can only believe it if you ignore inconvenient facts. You can only say it if you’re more interested in advancing an agenda than describing the reality.
Well my MP is Mark Francois so any medical advice from that oaf would probably involve British leeches from British farms and something about gunboats.
I agree our PHE experts have always been frank on what has been needed but its taken a backseat to the constantly changing restrictions and government messaging. I think when we talk about risk there's individual/family risk which for many is low irrespective of case load and then community risk. People have been willing to make personal sacrifices to lower the community risk but when government and the public are showing they'll let covid spread it becomes harder for people to feel the worth of their sacrifices. I have sympathy for the younger folk who have sacrificed a lot and seen those sacrifices wasted, especially if the counter argument to their frustration is well you should have got involved in the spreading sooner. To me it feels a lot like the climate change issue encapsulated into a year of hell.
People's individual contribution to covid circulation is across the year but at the end of the day you don't get a pass for good behaviour and the risk is the risk. One social event now is probably as bad as 10 events in September.
It's a good point that's often overlooked when people seek comparisons. Western Europe is really inexperienced in dealing with any form of modern pandemic.
It's not just lack of competence though, but lack of common sense.
When Schools and Universities went back they seemed to think that it wouldn't cause a spike in cases. That it would have no effect.
Every parent knows that when kids go back to school, suddenly they pick up colds and other viruses. Every uni student knows about freshers flu. Bear in mind at this point, secondary school kids in England still didn't have to wear masks in hallways.
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3678
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ome-test-kits-run-out-in-england-and-scotland
They've been blindly walking from one crisis into the next.
When Schools and Universities went back they seemed to think that it wouldn't cause a spike in cases. That it would have no effect.
Every parent knows that when kids go back to school, suddenly they pick up colds and other viruses. Every uni student knows about freshers flu. Bear in mind at this point, secondary school kids in England still didn't have to wear masks in hallways.
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3678
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ome-test-kits-run-out-in-england-and-scotland
They've been blindly walking from one crisis into the next.
How many countries do you think this applies to? If very few, then you can only believe that dozens of countries willfully decided to expose their population to an unreasonable degree of harm. If quite a lot, then by definition your definition of common sense is out of touch with what is literally common. Of course there's a better explanation for why those decisions were made that doesn't require you to imagine their thinking on the subject. Your impression of what they seemed to think is something you've invented, with lots of evidence to either confirm or contradict that invention. If you choose to only consider the former then you have to acknowledge that guarantees you will have a blindspot on the issue. It leads to answers you're more comfortable with, but it doesn't lead to better answers.
Did anyone see the reuters report where it said EU is throwing the UK a lifeline and will open borders
Its mad how they're using covid in politics
Its mad how they're using covid in politics
January will be awful. Good grief, why haven't the Government done a complete national lockdown until after the New Year?36,000 confirmed cases and 691 deaths today. Is is still an administrative error?
Inexperienced and with highly interdependent economies, that are utterly reliant on frictionless movement across borders. The exact opposite of what you need to contain a pandemic.
The government delayed the inevitable in March, history could be about to repeat itself.
Brwned Do you want some more IF statements in your post? .
All I'm saying is, in August, all the parents in my circle (including myself) were saying "cases will go up when schools go back, cases will go up when schools go back, cases will go up when schools go back."
And they did. And the government were underprepared.
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I find this quite a strange argument. It's hardly absurd to suggest that dozens of countries, particularly in Western Europe, have made a series of entirely avoidable blunders in their response to the pandemic and are suffering as a result. In that context, the idea that they might also have made the same mistake of sending schools back and being unprepared for the inevitable consequences is hardly the absurd suggestion that you are presenting it as.
At the very least in the UK we have Whitty on record in August saying:
So let's not pretend that it was just armchair experts playing at epidemiology who happened to think that the return of schools had associated risks. The problem was the same problem that we've had throughout the pandemic, a tousled haired buffoon was scared to make the unpopular decision he had to make to balance the risks with the benefits of having schools open, and here we are. The failure of other countries to mitigate against the same risks is its own, unrelated, failure of political leadership.
The way countries react to this new strain in UK is funny. This pandemic might not happen if they showed the same decisiveness towards China last year.