Wigan away is probably the easiest away in the league, id rather go there than Wolves or West ham, crap result for Arsenal and against 10 men.
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Exactly. If somebody said to me in August that come the New Year, we'd be top of the league with games in hand over our rivals, plus being unbeaten and with the best GD - I'd have bit your hand off.
The Wigan penalty was an inch or so outside the penalty box, and also was a dive. It was a poor decision, but in fairness, I was watching a pretty clear stream, and it looked like a stonewall penalty at first. The ref bought it, which is annoying, but it happens.
The team selection nearly paid off, but in the end, we have to take a point from a game we should have won. Very frustrating, given Chelsea won due to a poor decision as well. The refs generally do a great job, but over the last couple of nights, they've given Chelsea a massive boost and hurt United and Arsenal. If decisions had been correct, us two would both have won, and Chelsea would have drawn.
Move on to Birmingham at the weekend with the A-team back out. I'm annoyed at how little rest we were given as well, but you have to deal with that. We can't all have the 'fortune' Chelsea have of playing all three games in London.
The team selection nearly paid off, but in the end, we have to take a point from a game we should have won. Very frustrating, given Chelsea won due to a poor decision as well. The refs generally do a great job, but over the last couple of nights, they've given Chelsea a massive boost and hurt United and Arsenal. If decisions had been correct, us two would both have won, and Chelsea would have drawn.
Move on to Birmingham at the weekend with the A-team back out. I'm annoyed at how little rest we were given as well, but you have to deal with that. We can't all have the 'fortune' Chelsea have of playing all three games in London.
2 games in 48 hours
Boo fecking hoo
HAH Notice how the cork follows the bottle in the exact same angle..
BTW Just read from another forum that Arsenal made 11 changes from the Chelsea game?? Shouldn't it be a fine and/or a few points off like they did to Wolverhampton??
Do you ever discuss your own team without attempting to deflect by bringing United into it?
Uh. Nothing wrong with Wigan's penalty, just inside and utterly stupid by Koscielny. Arse should've had a penalty, just like Bolton should've, but nothing worse than what we had last night.
He never does.
Good day of results for us. Liverpool 
He dives, and it isn't in the box. I don't want to blame the official, but it's by no means a penalty. You can't rewrite history here.
the refs have been mental recently I agree. But 10 men down and leading...really no excuse not to put it away.
team selection is key.....why worry about a match several days away when this match has yet to be won.
If you cnuts want to have a pop at our away record then I think it's valid to mention your 1 win away this season?
ah...but you are saying it is more entertaining yes? regardless of your reasons. Look, yes we do have rich clubs...but actually we don't generally attract the top players in the world. We have to seek the under players for want of a better phrase..because the top players will always usually choose the top spanish or italian clubs..maybe because its sunny, less taxing for their talents regarding the opposition. Even Ronaldo said that playing in the spanish league is easier because you only have around four teams who can challenge you. Ferguson is right...winning the english league is the hardest thing to do because of the money maybe....but then it does make it the most exciting league. Look at the results this season..feck fancy football...what the true fans love is a real fight....not knowing what will happen...that a lower team has players who can feck you with one flick against the odds.....its a brilliant league...the best...no doubt about that
Refs have honestly been truly shocking even by their low standards recently.
Just noticed the guy laughing behind Wenger....obviously doesn't take the game as seriously as Wenger and old man Rice do.
Just watching the Wigan-Arse highlights now.
Harsh penalty. Arse defender brought the leg out, but hardly any contact (if any) with Insomnia, he took a bit of a dive.
Harsh penalty. Arse defender brought the leg out, but hardly any contact (if any) with Insomnia, he took a bit of a dive.
Pop? What pop? You have the 2nd best away record in the league.
All he said was if you have trouble beating Wigan away god help you at B'ham which is true since B'ham put 10 men behind the ball and are pretty bloody hard to beat as you'll have found out over the past few years.
Past form is not a reliable guide to the future: "investments can go down as well as up".
In the last 6 seasons Spurs were not playing in the CL, now they are and sit just 1 point behind Chelsea. City are currrently in 2nd place and will continue to out-spend all others.
The old order changeth. Liverpool have already discovered this. Complacency is not your friend.
Yes, it's frustrating, and we should have won it, but it would have been a poor move to play a stronger side this evening. We had 45 hours between games, whereas Wigan played at 3pm the day before. Playing against Chelsea took a lot out of us as well. It's hardly an ideal scenario, and by rights, our game should never have been played. When recovery time is so scarce, an extra day is huge. This isn't akin to playing in the CL during the week and playing on the Saturday as opposed to the Sunday. We might just look back at this draw and think it an OKish result, but only if we beat Birmingham.
True, true. We're getting better all the time though. Came a shite refereeing decision away from being the second team in 20 to win at the ground you're travelling to this weekend. Tough tough ground to get a result. A win tonight and there'd be a lot less pressure on you to do what so few manage.
Closer than I though, after watching it again. The "collision" happens exactly on the line, and I'm sure Koscielny hits him, although he obviously goes down too easily. I don't think you can be too upset about it, Wilshere went down easily after the "headbutt", but it's still a red. Anyway, you should've had a penalty which should have saved a shite performance from your lot.
Hmm, was it you who was bigging up Probert just the other day.
Questioning your mental strength in throwing away tonights lead is not 'having a pop at your away record' you over sensitive queer. Jesus, do you want crisps with that bitter?
You don't know what will happen in the Bundesliga neither, look at Bayern Munchen finalists of the Champions League last year, stuck in the mid-table since the start of the season.
Even if the PL was the best (which I'm not saying it is), the reasons for that success are such that there's nothing to boast about for an Englishman.
Not based on that performance at Brum you're not.
Do you not sympathise with that decision Pete? Looked cast-iron at first, Z'Nogbia massively conned him. Yeh it's a poor one, and we suffered massively from it, but it doesn't turn him into a poor referee.
Read the thread you tedious feckwit.
If past results isn't a reliable guide to the future, why would you agree that La Liga is a 2 horse race before the season started? Would it be something to do with the 20-something pt gap those two had over the 3rd placed team last season?
City are currently in 2nd place having played more games than everyone.
We shall see in a few months how it turns out.
we all love watching these games come thick and fast over the holiday season...but it really is brutal on the players....and if it involves travelling and such....
madness.
if there is any word of comfort to the gooners...or any of us really...it is that there is an awful lot of football still left to play...
one thing though...any team that leads the table by 10 points will win the thing...games in hand or not.
ah....so where are you from....?
Yeah, I agree that Probert is one of the better refs, I think he could have judged from the triple pike that it wasn't a foul.
Except we have much more to be upset with the ref costing us 2pts than you lot.
Difficult to play two games so close together, isn't it?
On the plus side, at least we didn't drop points somewhere embarrassing like the JJB. Can't remember the last time that wasnt a banker three points. Usually good for the old goal difference too.
Totally different story at St Andrews. Always a tough gig that. As you'll soon find out.
I've read it pete, Pogue said you'd need your best players at the weekend seeing as the ones out tonight couldn't beat Wigan. If you can explain how that is 'having a pop at your away record' then feel free, otherwise I'll put it down to example 4874048320 of you needlessly bringing United into a discussion about Arsenal because you feel the need to deflect any criticism of your team by pointing at something else.
Yep, there's a lot more football to play. I also think your point total might be a little bit bloated by the fact you've played two more home games than away games - especially given your away record.
I've always argued that if we're within 5 points by March, we'll have a good chance. Whether we can do that is another question entirely.
Just saw the red card too, very stupid by Insomnia. Sure Wilshere goes down easily (like most do), but he was still very stupid. He should have done what Anderson did last night and thrust his breasts into him.
Chamakh will never get another decision if referees started doing that.
You've actually got less cause since we were denied a pen and unjustly had one awarded against us.
hmmmm, two games close together...not if I was paid 250000 a week!!!!!