Berbatov | Fulham player

I think this is one thing that a lot will be divided on if/when he does leave when we look back at his stint. For me I believe his 1st two seasons were fairly atrocious.

I also try to put myself in a rival supporters point of view and I believe a large majority would reckon he was poor most of the time in those two seasons.

Then I also look at the point of view, if Berbatov had joined City and mirrored what he did for us in those 1st 2 years I think he would have become a major source of satisfaction for Utd fans and we would all have deemed him a massive failure and had a good laugh about it in the process.

But for the 1st 6 months of this season he put right an awful lot which was wrong with his career with us and if he does leave this summer I for one will be delighted he did eventually leave his mark, but unfortunately it the grand scheme of things it was very brief.

But anyway let’s see what happens. I said umpteen times he has to either sign a new deal or leave this summer. If he does sign a new deal he really has to force his way back into the side. A bit part role simply does not suit him and in fairness it is not something he deserves.

Then you are a moron.
 
Dude, I'm not you. If you weren't acting stupid you would know I haven't said any where that Chicharito didn't have an excellent season or hat it onl started in January.

Rather I clearly said that when Berbatov was in top form Hernandez was on the bench all the time. Regardless of how well he performed coming off of it. Only when Berbatov had a dip in form, late in the season, did Hernandez take his starting spot.

No, you compared Hernandez to Valencia which was retarded as one missed a massive chunk of the season whilst the other didn't. Stop backtracking, all the multi-quotes in the world won't hide how stupid a comparison that was.
 
No, you're wrong - Berba had another wobble in form getting toward the business end resulting in lack of faith in him by the manager who realized the law of averages from the previous seasons meant this wouldn't improve and it subsequently didn't.
Luckily Hernandez's form meant we were left more than sufficiently covered, bettered even...
Eh? After he scored three times against Birmingham and twice against Blackpool, he only played 90 minutes against Villa at home (3-1 win) and 64 against Wolves away (2-1 loss, where I thought he was incorrectly substituted) before being replaced by Hernández, pretty much permanently. He still managed to get important goals against Bolton and Fulham. Unless you're referring to those 154 minutes as his loss of form, you're incorrect. And if you are, Hernández's last 180 minutes haven't been great. Time to drop him now?
 
Fair play, even after the manager dropped our record signing from the squad for the biggest club game in the World you're still finding stats reasons etc as to why he's actually been a success.
 
Fair play, even after the manager dropped our record signing from the squad for the biggest club game in the World you're still finding stats reasons etc as to why he actually a success.

Well we also dropped Rafael and Oshea this year. Park in Moscow. You're telling me they are all failures? You can't use a one off game to validate his worth.
 
Evra made a bigger contribution to Barca victory than Berba absence. Berba has made a big contribution this year but if he has fallen out with SAF then this wont end well.

Each player deals with setbacks their own way and if reading reports about how Berba has dealt with it may not look good on him.
 
No, you compared Hernandez to Valencia which was retarded as one missed a massive chunk of the season whilst the other didn't. Stop tracking to back track.....
I haven't back tracked on anything you moron. I already explained the comparison but that clearly went over your head.

Valencia and Nani both started the season and even before Valencia got injured Nani was already benching him.

Berbatov and Hernandez both started the season with Berbatov benching Hernandez.

Hernandez only took over late on because Berbatov had a dip in form.

Valenica also took over late on upon his return from injury due to Nani having a dip in form.

Yet you want to claim '''Hernandez has the better season than Berbatov'' based on the above. Yet don't want to do the same in the Nani and Valencia case.

The comparison and the point it makes are not hard to grasp. Unless you are just being as stubborn as a mule.
 
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This is the only way I feel I can communicate with you on football matters.

Your inability to elaborate or even attempt to express your opinions articulately makes you a waste of time.

:lol:

I suggest you Google "articulate."

Atrocious. :lol:
 
:lol:

This is the only way I feel I can communicate with you on football matters.

Your inability to elaborate or even attempt to express your opinions articulately makes you a waste of time.

:lol:
"Atrocious: Horrifyingly wicked, of a very poor quality; extremely bad or unpleasant."

An absolutely ridiculous summary of his first two seasons. Especially his second season, which was very good generally up until the start of April.
 
Yet you want to claim '''Hernandez has the better season than Berbatov'' based on the above. Yet don't want to do the same in the Nani and Valencia case.

You are a complete Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime Chief:

Appearances 2010-2011:

Hernandez - 44
Valencia - 19

get it yet dummy?

Hernandez took over late because of his OWN form, it had become impossible to drop him.
 
"Atrocious: Horrifyingly wicked, of a very poor quality; extremely bad or unpleasant."

An absolutely ridiculous summary of his first two seasons. Especially his second season, which was very good generally up until the start of April.

The funniest part is, he thinks he is 'evenhanded' about Berbatov. :lol:
 
Randall Flagg, SB, Sharky7 have been some of the biggest Tevez fans on redcafe. So, it's no surprise really that they are so active in that thread and that they are so critical about Berbatov and his United career.

Small-time behaviour.
 
Randall Flagg, SB, Sharky7 have been some of the biggest Tevez fans on redcafe. So, it's no surprise really that they are so active in that thread and that they are so critical about Berbatov and his United career.

Small-time behaviour.

Oh right.

So our record signing being dropped for the CL final doesn't back up anything we've said for 3 years about him not being trusted at the business end of the season.

Don't just admit it lads, it must be "cause they love Tevez". You lot have an excuse for everything Berba-related.

Childish behaviour.
 
It's the big question of our times you're either with Berba or against him.

He has had an up and down time with us.

His impact has always been best in the league against sides who come to defend.
 
Randall Flagg, SB, Sharky7 have been some of the biggest Tevez fans on redcafe. So, it's no surprise really that they are so active in that thread and that they are so critical about Berbatov and his United career.

Small-time behaviour.

Embarrassing. Wonder what they'll do if Berb leaves.
 
Oh right.

So our record signing being dropped for the CL final doesn't back up anything we've said for 3 years about him not being trusted at the business end of the season.

Don't just admit it lads, it must be "cause they love Tevez". You lot have an excuse for everything Berba-related.

Childish behaviour.

You aren't seriously claiming that you (and the other two) aren't huge Tevez fans, are you?
 
You aren't seriously claiming that you (and the other two) aren't huge Tevez fans, are you?

Are you kidding me? past tense fella, past tense.

I was a big fan when he was here, I was gutted when he left.

Doesn't have anything to do with Berbatov though, I want the fecker to be the best, feck he's our record signing and should be the first name on the teamsheet when we play a CL final. True is, he isn't and that has feck all to do with Carlos Tevez.
 
Oh right.

So our record signing being dropped for the CL final doesn't back up anything we've said for 3 years about him not being trusted at the business end of the season.

Don't just admit it lads, it must be "cause they love Tevez". You lot have an excuse for everything Berba-related.

Childish behaviour.

You have a clear anti-Bebatov agenda. That much is certain. Dropping Berbatov doesn't prove much. Tevez has been dropped for 2/3 of the 08/09 season and managed to score only 5 league goals. Does the fact that he wasn't signed after his loan prove that he wasn't United quality?

Berbatov wasn't in good form recently and isn't a poacher who is likely to score a goal in the final minutes. Fergie explained it well after the game.

When we were losing from Blackpool why did Fergie substitute Rooney, and not Berbatov? Because Berbatov was in a better form back then. It's quite simple really. Fergie decided that Chicha and Rooney are a better partnership, Berbatov had to sit on the bench, he lost confidence and form and found himself out of the grouip for the final. Doesn't prove anything about his ability. He was our best striker from August to the end of January, and scored 2 important league goals after that.

Don't get pathetic with your anti-Berbatov agenda.
 
Are you kidding me? past tense fella, past tense.

I was a big fan when he was here, I was gutted when he left.

Doesn't have anything to do with Berbatov though, I want the fecker to be the best, feck he's our record signing and should be the first name on the teamsheet when we play a CL final. True is, he isn't and that has feck all to do with Carlos Tevez.

this

You aren't seriously claiming that you (and the other two) aren't huge Tevez fans, are you?

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Jesus, this Lance style of posting is actually much easier. I am going to adopt it from here on in
 
Don't get pathetic with your anti-Berbatov agenda.

Whatever pal. Even if Berba gets sold this summer things still won't change with you lot, sticking up for you aint such a bad thing though so I can't blame you too much, but calling people "anti-whatever" is something best left for teenagers. :rolleyes:

A United fan who wants a certain player to fail, not just any player but our record signing, s'yeah right mate... piss off.
 
Are you kidding me? past tense fella, past tense.

I was a big fan when he was here, I was gutted when he left.

Doesn't have anything to do with Berbatov though, I want the fecker to be the best, feck he's our record signing and should be the first name on the teamsheet when we play a CL final. True is, he isn't and that has feck all to do with Carlos Tevez.

It would be a lot easier to accept that if you weren't constantly defending him. Here, for example.

https://www.redcafe.net/f9/tevez-hands-transfer-request-then-took-back-but-now-might-off-inter-315978/index28.html
 
This Teveth thing is just side-tracking this thread

The point is, Berbatov's contribution shouldn't be questioned, he was excellent throughout the season bar a slight mare against Man Citeh at Wembley
 
You are are so childish it's untrue, grow up.

Anytime Berba's contribution is questioned the Tevez card comes out, it doesn't matter if SAF's decisions back up our claims, no no, it's all about Tevez.

You are a Tevez fanboy, which is why you hate Berba. You'll never admit it, but it's as clear as day.

Now feck off.
 
You are a Tevez fanboy, which is why you hate Berba. You'll never admit it, but it's as clear as day.

Now feck off.

"fanboy"... how old are you Saliph? :lol::lol:

I've supported United all my life, I come from Manchester, I'm a season ticket holder, I sort other posters with tickets all the time, I go loads of Euro aways.

But yeah.... I actually support Tevez? what a little nerd you are.
 
Ah now come on. Nani was magnificent all season until the horror challenge from that cnut. There's no way we were more effective with Valencia on the right at the end of the season than Nani on the right for the first 6 months of it.

fecking hell.

that does bother me, that Nani's form deserted him after that 'tackle'.

Though against Fulham he was amazing...mind that was Fulham.

we have the whole summer to work on these players.

I cant wait for next season already :)
 
the entire thread has gone nuts now...

It has, I mentioned earlier that whenever something happens with Berba that is indisputable (like being dropped for a CL final), the Tevez name gets thrown into the mix to sidetrack us from the truth, it's a right load of shit and I apologise for my part but it's pretty tough going when you get questioned as to where your loyalty lies. And it most certainly doesn't fecking lie at Wastelands.