They did in the case of Iraq actually.
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They did in the case of Iraq actually.
History was never my strong point
Sorry, I didn't mean to be flippant.
The US are in a delicate position:
- if they support the protests which then fail, they piss off Egypt, an important ally in the region
- additionally all othe rregional governments get jumpy, accuse the US of meddling, clam down harder on their societies
- if they do nothing they get castigated for not supporting the people's democratic will
History was never my strong point
It does get confusing when one minute he's the noble, secular leader in the region and the next minute the Butcher of Baghdad
At least this time we know that Mubarak's always been a great guy.
No they won't piss off Egypt, just Mubarak and his fellow gangsters and maybe the Saudi royal family degenerates. The people of Egypt would most likely be eternally grateful.
The US has been supporting dissidents in places like Syria and Iran for decades, don't see why they should suddenly stop at Egypt.
Absolutely.
Pissing off Egypt is a non-issue. Egypt relies on billions from the US every year, After Israel I think Egypt receives the largest amount of US Aid.
Egypt being friendly with Israel is not an issue, that's done and dusted, 30+ years of peace, no matter what happens, that won't be in danger of lapsing into anything else.
The regional regimes can all do one....hehe.
I don't expect the US President or Sec of State declaring their support for the fall of Husni, Liverpool winning the league is more likely, but at least don't be ambiguous with your statement.
-State TV has been overrun/taken over by protesters, but Presidential Guard heading towards it to regain control.
-Curfew now countrywide, not just in Alexandria, Cairo, Suez
-Curfew now countrywide, not just in Alexandria, Cairo, Suez
Who's winning?
Supposedly parts of the army have sided with the protesters, this could get even more interesting!
Well about fecking time, I don't understand how anyone can serve these armies, I could never oppress my own friends and family.
That's why it's stupid to back dictators. It leads to the opposition power massing around leaders like the Brotherhood.
Have the Foreign Office released a statement of any sort? I know the State Department have....
History was never my strong point
They also did in the case of Afghanistan, inviting Taliban spokesman to the State Department and Taliban members to Houston to discuss a pipeline proposal.
Reports of Egyptian Christians guarding Muslims as they pray in their mosques
I saw William Hague give an interview to Sky News this afternoon.
-US saying they will review annual aid package to Egypt based on how the events on the ground are dealt with
-Egyptian Army Chief of Staff flying home from the US, cutting short an official visit.
-Egyptian Army Chief of Staff flying home from the US, cutting short an official visit.
Surprisingly(pleasantly) press briefing from the State Department and spokesperson Robert Gibbs.
Egyptians have legitimate demands that date back years, and the Egyptian government needs to show substantive actions to placate protesters.
President Obama has not spoken to President Mubarak.
Egyptians have legitimate demands that date back years, and the Egyptian government needs to show substantive actions to placate protesters.
President Obama has not spoken to President Mubarak.
Reuters and other international news agencies: 23 dead, 1075 injured in protests so far today.
Hope the museum isn't at risk
2135: The BBC's Jon Leyne in Cairo says the military are reported to have moved in to protect the Egyptian museum, where some of the world's great treasures are stored, in the midst of the demonstrations.
2135: The BBC's Jon Leyne in Cairo says the military are reported to have moved in to protect the Egyptian museum, where some of the world's great treasures are stored, in the midst of the demonstrations.
I think the Museum is safe, this isn't the Taliban attacking the Statues at Bamyan. Egyptians are proud of their heritage and history, but I can understand the military moving into secure the area, unruly mobs are just that unruly mobs.
Also if this is what the military is doing, and not attacking citizens, good on them.
I wouldn't worry about it, most the good stuff's in the British Museum anyway
A mate of mine of Facebook is saying that there are unconfirmed reports that Mubarak is on hi way to, or on, a jet to Switzerland
No he's giving a speech on Egyptian TV(it could be taped of course) but I doubt it.
Oh and why the feck do none of the big news channels have good translators, the woman on CNN International...OMFG.
Oh and why the feck do none of the big news channels have good translators, the woman on CNN International...OMFG.
It's live I think, it's all over the news.
He's taking the piss...rambling on about unemployment, housing, and standing side by side with the poor.
He won't be going anywhere.
He won't be going anywhere.
Apparently protesters formed a human chain round the museum to protect it
He doesn't look like he's 82 at all. Ah, what perennial power does to our looks.
Hosni confirms he is still in power, and they will hold a parliamentary meeting on Sunday. Regrets loss of life on both sides. The demonstrations would not have been possible had there been no relaxation of civil liberties.
A gist of what I caught on TV.
A gist of what I caught on TV.
Hope Avs' OK.
He fired everyone but kept himself to oversee change 
Phew.
Another twitter update: People are apparently removing passwords from wifi routers so it's easier to get net access
He's staying the fecker, I read some threatening meanings in his speech as if he got the green light to use extreme force and the coming days will be bloody..
This is only the begin, 2012 is coming
I think he's fecked. Good stuff - the fire can pass from Tunisia, to Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Somalia, Uganda, Kenya.
I'm hoping the fire will spread more East..
but seriously this little cretin doesn't know when to bugger off.
but seriously this little cretin doesn't know when to bugger off.