It was a photo from the same session. Everyone started calling him a fat bastard, based on a very small, very lo res shot of him in a loose-fitting shirt. Bit daft really.
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It was a photo from the same session. Everyone started calling him a fat bastard, based on a very small, very lo res shot of him in a loose-fitting shirt. Bit daft really.
Once it clicks for Anderson there will be no stopping him. He's still young though and has plenty of time for that to happen. I believe the lad has it all and can be the Scholes replacement everyone is hoping we sign. He can pass, he can dribble, needs to sort out his shot but is still our best midfield prospect in the team.
Ando is an absolute quality player.
I do have fears he won't make the best of his talent though.
I do have fears he won't make the best of his talent though.
Thats what I think as well. The only obstacle in his progress would come to be himself. He has the talent, he has the right people around him to groom him but I do fear that he might not make the most of it.
Yeah, maybe. I'm not totally convinced we're the right club for him either though.
When he first came to the club, the very first game I saw him play for us was in the reserves, I think, and he played in more or less a free role between the midfield and attack. It was only a ressies match, but I thought he looked really mature and really good for a player of his age - he was outstanding, in fact.
I think we gave up on him in that position a bit too quickly in the first team, partly because we tried it a couple of times in the wrong way and it didn't work - e.g. Anderson behind Tevez with little support from the wings, partly because he showed more bite than maybe we expected and did pretty well in a traditional centre mid role, and partly because he hasn't shown enough as an attacking player.
I just feel like we need to push that side of his game more. He has it in him. I think the rest of his game - apart from his stamina - is already good enough, and we need to work on the attacking side. He might then end up in central midfield but by then he'd be a beast of a player. The trouble is, I think he needs regular first team football to motivate and improve him and the only we can accommodate that is if HE bursts through on his own merit. Not sure he's going to do that. I'd hate it if he ended up at Lyon or somewhere because he'd flourish I think.
Come on lads, he certainly has the talent and he will certainly get games.
Isn't that conundrum true of every young footballer playing for a club like United?
Yup.
Yes, absolutely. And, I'm not suggesting Anderson should get special treatment. It's up to him to make the breakthrough this season.
My point was simply that we might not be the right club for him.
Gotcha. And it is a real conundrum.
When you see the likes of Pique, Shawcross, David Jones and Rossi going on to become really decent players after leaving United because they weren't going to get enough games (not saying they're all United quality but at least some of them will be) it makes you wonder about how ridiculously hard it is for Fergie to bring youngsters through since Chelsea raised the bar with their "two top class players in every position" strategy.
Sending all our best young players out on loan seems to be the best way to give them the games they need but that's a risky strategy in itself (I think the enjoyment of playing regular football on loan was what turned Rossi/Pique's heads)
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6651477
After spending the majority of 2010 sidelined by injury, Anderson is tantalisingly close to returning to action.
The Brazilian midfielder suffered cruciate ligament damage against West Ham last February and, after a lengthy recuperation from surgery in Portugal, he is elated to be back at Carrington and on the cusp of a comeback.
"I'm so happy and excited to be back again after six months without football," Anderson told ManUtd.com. "I've been really excited to be back. I've been so happy ever since I got back to Carrington and I just can't wait to play again.
"I'm feeling good. I've been training for two weeks and I'm very happy. I think maybe very soon I'll come back again and start playing normally with the rest of the team. I have had no problems at all with the injury. I'm just running and training now really hard, so I can come back and train normally with the team."
Although frustrated to have been confined to the sidelines throughout United's pre-season preparations, Anderson has seen enough promise in the Reds' displays to spark confidence for the months ahead.
"I think the new season will be very difficult because a lot of teams are becoming strong," he admitted. "But in pre-season we have looked very strong and I think we will come again this season and we will aim to win everything."
After spending the majority of 2010 sidelined by injury, Anderson is tantalisingly close to returning to action.
The Brazilian midfielder suffered cruciate ligament damage against West Ham last February and, after a lengthy recuperation from surgery in Portugal, he is elated to be back at Carrington and on the cusp of a comeback.
"I'm so happy and excited to be back again after six months without football," Anderson told ManUtd.com. "I've been really excited to be back. I've been so happy ever since I got back to Carrington and I just can't wait to play again.
"I'm feeling good. I've been training for two weeks and I'm very happy. I think maybe very soon I'll come back again and start playing normally with the rest of the team. I have had no problems at all with the injury. I'm just running and training now really hard, so I can come back and train normally with the team."
Although frustrated to have been confined to the sidelines throughout United's pre-season preparations, Anderson has seen enough promise in the Reds' displays to spark confidence for the months ahead.
"I think the new season will be very difficult because a lot of teams are becoming strong," he admitted. "But in pre-season we have looked very strong and I think we will come again this season and we will aim to win everything."
Obviously not related to this season but i wonder what will happen if he doesnt step it up ala Nani last season. How near to the exit door do people really feel he is?
I feel he seems to get away with alot of the usual stick players get on the CAF. Fletcher at his worst arguably contributed more than Anderson. Obviously the transfer fee we paid out is a factor in this but Im begining to think that in 12 months time if things havent improved his time in Manchester may come to an end. He wouldnt be the first player full of potential not to deliver.
I feel he seems to get away with alot of the usual stick players get on the CAF. Fletcher at his worst arguably contributed more than Anderson. Obviously the transfer fee we paid out is a factor in this but Im begining to think that in 12 months time if things havent improved his time in Manchester may come to an end. He wouldnt be the first player full of potential not to deliver.
Great to see he's back and saying all the right things!
He needs to get fighting fit and regain that electric acceleration he had.
I absolutely can't wait to see him playing again. He's had some impressive games for us which suggests he can do it he just needs consistency!
I expect him and Nani to come good!
He needs to get fighting fit and regain that electric acceleration he had.
I absolutely can't wait to see him playing again. He's had some impressive games for us which suggests he can do it he just needs consistency!
I expect him and Nani to come good!
Good news. I still feel he can become a good squad player. Weight of pass is very poor at times. As I have said before, he should play at left back.
Funny you should mention Fletcher. I think Gibson is being shown more patience than Fletcher was, because the skinny Scot set down a marker for young central midfielders who take a while to show their real qualities.
Similarly, I think Nani's breakthrough season will have brought Anderson some time. Everyone is expecting him to follow suit.
Of course, there's absolute no guarantee that Anderson and Gibson will follow the same development curve that Nani and Fletcher did (as opposed to, say, Kieran Richardson or David Jones). If anything, it would be a bit of a coincidence if they did.
Having said all that, it's fairly obvious that Anderson has the potential to be better than any of the players I just named, which is reason enough in itself to give him as long as possible to deliver.
Yep pretty much my thinking I just hope his off the field persona and antics dont impact on Fergie patience with him.
His departure if it happens will evertually come back to bite us on the arse, you just know it!!!
Unrelated but do you reckon we would have shown the same patience with Bale as spurs did if we bought him 2 years ago?
I'd say we would have. Didn't Spurs sign him in the same window we signed Nani? Bale's emergence as a really top class player came at around the same time Nani's did and Bale's a good few years younger.
I don't think he'd have had as many first-team games though. He'd probably have spent a lot of time out on loan. No idea if this would have set his development back but maybe it might have?
Why? Because he is a better athlete?
I have always believed Nani>Anderson.
And it is not easy to become better than Fletcher.
David Jones, I better not say what I think.
Don't agree with that personally, although in mitigation Fletcher at his worst was played out of position on the right wing in a misfiring team. I'd agree that if he doesn't step it up this year he might leave next summer. He doesn't necessarily need to have made himself undroppable or anything, but he does need to show some progression.
You are right that it's not easy to become as good or even better than Fletch, but even a blind man can see what potential Anderson has and that he can give us something Fletch or Gibbo can't.
Technically I think he is superior and, as you mentioned, he is a better athlete than both of them.
I also think that his passing, when sorted out, can become really really good.
It all depends on how he develops though and whether he can fulfil that potential. It's up to him.
You love him dont you! Better than anderson......???
If he could only shoot. We know he's a kid who has been inconsistent but has shown enough at a young age. It's really his off field behaviour that's a concern and his shooting, but this injury, like the others he's suffered, are a test of character.
I don't think there is a rush to get him out the door. Far from it. Will he be the main man this season? I doubt he has to be but he might be and the good thing is you can bet your life, he will be working extra hard in training after being out so long to get back in the team and that might be the extra push he needs to get fit
If we can get him fit and confident then who would we need to sell or buy? As options go, we're not too shabby IF the kid can get his game together.
I don't think there is a rush to get him out the door. Far from it. Will he be the main man this season? I doubt he has to be but he might be and the good thing is you can bet your life, he will be working extra hard in training after being out so long to get back in the team and that might be the extra push he needs to get fit
If we can get him fit and confident then who would we need to sell or buy? As options go, we're not too shabby IF the kid can get his game together.
Anderson keen to grab chance to shine at Manchester United - Goal.com
Manchester United midfielder Anderson is hoping that he can reignite his career at Old Trafford.
Out since February with a cruciate ligament injury sustained against West Ham United, there have also been rumours that the Brazilian was on his way out of the club.
However, he is delighted to be back training with the first team squad after completing his rehabilitation from the injury.
"I'm so happy and excited to be back again after six months without football," he told his club's official website.
"I've been really excited to be back. I've been so happy ever since I got back to Carrington and I just can't wait to play again.
"I'm feeling good. I've been training for two weeks and I'm very happy. I think maybe very soon I'll come back again and start playing normally with the rest of the team.
"I have had no problems at all with the injury. I'm just running and training now really hard, so I can come back and train normally with the team."
And more winners' medals are the aim for Anderson this season, after a strong pre-season in which the Red Devils have looked sharp.
"I think the new season will be very difficult because a lot of teams are becoming strong," he added.
"But in pre-season we have looked very strong and I think we will come again this season and we will aim to win everything."
Manchester United midfielder Anderson is hoping that he can reignite his career at Old Trafford.
Out since February with a cruciate ligament injury sustained against West Ham United, there have also been rumours that the Brazilian was on his way out of the club.
However, he is delighted to be back training with the first team squad after completing his rehabilitation from the injury.
"I'm so happy and excited to be back again after six months without football," he told his club's official website.
"I've been really excited to be back. I've been so happy ever since I got back to Carrington and I just can't wait to play again.
"I'm feeling good. I've been training for two weeks and I'm very happy. I think maybe very soon I'll come back again and start playing normally with the rest of the team.
"I have had no problems at all with the injury. I'm just running and training now really hard, so I can come back and train normally with the team."
And more winners' medals are the aim for Anderson this season, after a strong pre-season in which the Red Devils have looked sharp.
"I think the new season will be very difficult because a lot of teams are becoming strong," he added.
"But in pre-season we have looked very strong and I think we will come again this season and we will aim to win everything."
I wish him good luck with injuries.
Does he only have one year left on his contract after this season?
Of the three big signings Quieroz was behind (Ronaldo, Nani and Anderson) two have been completely vindicated. Anderson has shown an awful lot of potential but he really needs to make himslef undroppable (like Fletcher). We are so thin on the ground in his position and have many players coming to the end of their careers; Anderson has a fantastic chance of making it if he sorts out his attitude.
You are fully aware that Quieroz was in charge of Madrid when we signed ronaldo....
I think Ando will do fine when he gets back from injury.
He seemed to take his eye off the ball a bit last season, was dumped into the Reserves and seemed to respond well to that kick up the backside and I thought we'd see the real Ando when he returned but that "comeback" game was when he got his injury (sustained whilst possibly trying too hard to make a tackle, ironically).
I think he'll be doubly motivated to make up for lost time when he gets back and if he isn't after all he's been through over the last twelve months then he never will be imo.
He seemed to take his eye off the ball a bit last season, was dumped into the Reserves and seemed to respond well to that kick up the backside and I thought we'd see the real Ando when he returned but that "comeback" game was when he got his injury (sustained whilst possibly trying too hard to make a tackle, ironically).
I think he'll be doubly motivated to make up for lost time when he gets back and if he isn't after all he's been through over the last twelve months then he never will be imo.
His injury during the West Ham game wasn't sustained making a tackle. It was something quite innocuous where he was just making a quick pass or turn and it just kind of happened.
He did start the game off well and yes, he had done enough in the reserves to get himself in SAF's good graces to start that game.
Looking back to last season though - the game against West Ham earlier in the season is one that he really stood out to me in the types of balls he is capable of playing. The weighting of his passes and the little slid balls in that game was very good. It was the game where we ended up losing Neville.
Am looking forward to him coming back. Can take the boy out of Brazil but, can't take the Brazil (party) out of him but, also think he'll know that this is his last chance and he needs to take it or not only will miss out at a career at United but, his chances for playing for Brazil as well might greatly diminish.
He did start the game off well and yes, he had done enough in the reserves to get himself in SAF's good graces to start that game.
Looking back to last season though - the game against West Ham earlier in the season is one that he really stood out to me in the types of balls he is capable of playing. The weighting of his passes and the little slid balls in that game was very good. It was the game where we ended up losing Neville.
Am looking forward to him coming back. Can take the boy out of Brazil but, can't take the Brazil (party) out of him but, also think he'll know that this is his last chance and he needs to take it or not only will miss out at a career at United but, his chances for playing for Brazil as well might greatly diminish.
Now that you say it, yes.
he's gonna have too - if he doesn't have the discipline to lose weight and get fit, avoiding distractions then he doesn't deserve a place in the squad - rafael and fabio seem to be doing ok and seem settled
if keane was in the squad he'd go through him for a shortcut - hopefully he can get his priorities right - plenty of time to party and get fat when his career is over
Sell Anderson Sign Real Madrid's cast offs.
This is either one incredibly clever wind up merchant, or an unbelievable big spastic. I've no idea which one.
This is either one incredibly clever wind up merchant, or an unbelievable big spastic. I've no idea which one.
It's not that daft to say he could play Left Back. I watched him play for Brazil once and was given the task of man marking Messi which indirectly resulted in Anderson spending most of the game at left back. He did quite well.
I think when Anderson gets back we will have a really strong midfield to rival any of the other bigger teams. He has a good engine and breaks up play well. I can't wait to see him in action again.
Come on Ando!!!!!
Come on Ando!!!!!
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