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It is funny that when it comes to Ronaldo it's all paper bollocks but when it's Berbatov, it's seemingly more credible......

His agent has more or less confirmed the contact, I'd say that's pretty credible.
 
Who are we supposed to believe?

The press who have at least some contacts in the industry, or you, who we know nothing about?

What percentage of press "transfers" are true? I'd guess under 10%.

Personally I look for quotes from real people that would sue if they weren't true, and I haven't seen one yet regarding Berbatov, although I am always willing to be proved wrong.

ps. read what his agent said again.
 
His agent has more or less confirmed the contact, I'd say that's pretty credible.

Didn't Huntelaar himself say last week that Utd were very interested? And how many other agents come out and try to engineer deals/contract for their clients with tales of "interest"?

I think that Berbatov is quite likely to come to OT, I'm just saying that it's funny that when it comes to Ronaldo all the stories are a lod of shit etc.......yet people cling onto every word/quote in the paper when it comes to Berbatov/other potential signings.
 
What percentage of press "transfers" are true? I'd guess under 10%.

Personally I look for quotes from real people that would sue if they weren't true, and I haven't seen one yet regarding Berbatov, although I am always willing to be proved wrong.

ps. read what his agent said again.

I'd say less than 1%.

But, I'd still believe the rags with some credible quotes, than a poster saying it's all "bullshit" without any foundation.

Like Ronaldo, there is too much smoke not to believe these rumours. Besides it's common knowledge SAF has been a long term admirer of Berbs - even before he had joined Spurs.
 
Didn't Huntelaar himself say last week that Utd were very interested? And how many other agents come out and try to engineer deals/contract for their clients with tales of "interest"?

I think that Berbatov is quite likely to come to OT, I'm just saying that it's funny that when it comes to Ronaldo all the stories are a lod of shit etc.......yet people cling onto every word/quote in the paper when it comes to Berbatov/other potential signings.

Many a times clubs plant these stories to put pressure on their target, or their clubs. It also helps in negotiations when the sellers know we have other targets we can pursue.
 
A 4321 could work but we would have to have maybe a more accomplished RB in going forward. If berbatov came you could play rooney and tevez behing him. With carrick hargreaves and scholes in midfield. Alves and evra as our fullbacks could have made that work.

However I prefer 442 and we should stick to that or a variation of that. Even if ronaldo stays we still need to sign a winger and in that I doubt there are much better wingers than the wide men of bayern munich.
 
A 4321 could work but we would have to have maybe a more accomplished RB in going forward. If berbatov came you could play rooney and tevez behing him. With carrick hargreaves and scholes in midfield. Alves and evra as our fullbacks could have made that work.

However I prefer 442 and we should stick to that or a variation of that. Even if ronaldo stays we still need to sign a winger and in that I doubt there are much better wingers than the wide men of bayern munich.

true, but hopefully neville can ,provide that good width on the right if he returns back to full fitness and form.


Rooney, tevez and berbatov will be the most fearer strike force in europe, the amazing team play and fluidity will just be a delight, i cant wait especially to see rooney and berba linking up too geniuses at work
 
I think that Berbatov is quite likely to come to OT, I'm just saying that it's funny that when it comes to Ronaldo all the stories are a lod of shit etc.......yet people cling onto every word/quote in the paper when it comes to Berbatov/other potential signings.

Yeah definitely! It's not like there's a thread about all the Ronaldo transfer stories with over 15,000 posts and over 1 million views or anything, no-one's clinging onto every word/quote and making judgements regarding Ronaldo on this forum at all :rolleyes:
 
You shouldn't look at just the players age. You should look at how long they will stay at the top of their game, as different players age better than others. Adebayor will probably, like most players, stay at the top until he's 29-30 and then start falling away. Whereas Berbatov's style of play means he will likely remain at the top of his game until he's around 32. So they've both got 5 or 6 seasons left to play until their game starts deteriorating.

Their calender age may be 3 years different, but if the older one will play for comparitively 3 years longer then realistically what is the difference?


I've got exactly the opposite point of view on this. I want Rooney to take tips off Keane as to how to play with Berbatov. It's hardly a case of Berbatov dropping deep constantly and Keane having to always stay up front. It's more Berbatov stays up front when the opposition has the ball to give Spurs a target man and someone capable of then holding up the ball until his team-mates get into positions to recieve it. And when Spurs have the ball the two of them interchange perfectly, working better as a partnership than any I've seen since Yorke/Cole.

A lot of people have been saying over the last two seasons that Rooney is too focused on playing for the team and needs to be a bit more selfish at times. I think that Berbatov will allow him do to this perfectly. I don't want Rooney to be upfront all the time, expected to win the ball and hold it when we are on the backfoot. But I don't want him in behind doing all the creative work either. I want him playing in behind, but still hitting the holes and making the runs off his main striker. And Berbatov, more than any other striker in the world, will put Rooney into those spaces.

A Berbatov/Rooney combo should bring all the positives of the Rooney/Tevez combo (except the hard work and graft of Tevez), while improving both positions. Berbatov is more natural and effective up front, and Rooney is superior to Tevez in behind. I admit I do have a slight worry about the relative lack of pace a Berbatov/Tevez combo would bring, but they are good enough they should still open teams up (especially with Ronaldo on the wing).

quality post mad dogg as usual, He can only get better in our team because our quality is so much greater than spurs, and he will only improve us as a team.

Even if he is paired with tevez it can work, they are both quality players who dont much rely on electric pace, but with a speedy mind, keane isnt a better player than tevez so that shouldnt be a problem.
 
One thing i could see from this signing is Rooney scoring more goals.

Defiantly, i think he feels the pressure of having to be the main scorer, when you let him do his natural game without having to think to what about what he should and should not be doing you will see the best of him. He has been learning in a new position though and this can only help him as a player. Im convinced if berbatov comes rooney will go up a level, as will our general team play - which is a frightening prospect :devil:
 
Defiantly, i think he feels the pressure of having to be the main scorer, when you let him do his natural game without having to think to what about what he should and should not be doing you will see the best of him. He has been learning in a new position though and this can only help him as a player. Im convinced if berbatov comes rooney will go up a level, as will our general team play - which is a frightening prospect :devil:

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Defiantly, i think he feels the pressure of having to be the main scorer, when you let him do his natural game without having to think to what about what he should and should not be doing you will see the best of him. He has been learning in a new position though and this can only help him as a player. Im convinced if berbatov comes rooney will go up a level, as will our general team play - which is a frightening prospect :devil:


Brown------Ferdinand------Vidic------Evra

--Scholes------Carrick--

----Ronaldo----- ---Nani----

---Rooney---Berbatov---

:cool:
 
Just got this '' http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=95052

Bulgaria Football Star to Join Manchester United for the Price of EUR 25 M

According to the British The Sun, Bulgarian football star Dimitar Berbatov was going to join the Manchester United team for the price of GBP 20 M (EUR 25 M).

Rumors about Berbatov joining Manchester United have been circulating in the world of sports and the media for a year already, but the team's management finally made their official offer.

The transfer is expected to be finalized within a week, however Berbatov has declined to make any comments before receiving official notification from both his current Tottenham management and the management of Manchester United.

According to The Sun the Bulgarian Football star has been on the top of Sir Alex Ferguson's list since last summer and Ferguson has always been certain that Berbatov would play in perfect harmony with Manchester United's two other strikers Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tevez.

Berbatov is slated to replace the famous Cristiano Ronaldo who is going to leave Manchester United soon.

The Sun lists Berbatov's new contract salary as GBP 80,000 (EUR100, 092) a week or GBP 4 M a year (EUR 5,004,585).
 
If the only business we do is to lose ronaldo and gain berbatov then we will be weaker. i wasnt that impressed with the teams posted above, it lacks somthing either ronaldo or aguero (or both:drool:)
Ive personally lost confidence with rooney. These are hunches im getting, ive learnt to trust them.
 
If the only business we do is to lose ronaldo and gain berbatov then we will be weaker. i wasnt that impressed with the teams posted above, it lacks somthing either ronaldo or aguero (or both:drool:)
Ive personally lost confidence with rooney. These are hunches im getting, ive learnt to trust them.

SAF will bring a striker whether Ronaldo stays or he leaves. He knows that he cannot keep on relying on Saha to provide quality strength in depth to the forward line. If Ronaldo leaves then we will bring in a new winger.
 
Brown------Ferdinand------Vidic------Evra

--Scholes------Carrick--

----Ronaldo----- ---Nani----

---Rooney---Berbatov---

:cool:

That's good, for the time Ronaldo is injured we can put Tevez on Ronaldo position and will be nothing new for him.

Damn imagine Manucho on bench, feck sakes that looks better than FM.
 
If the only business we do is to lose ronaldo and gain berbatov then we will be weaker. i wasnt that impressed with the teams posted above, it lacks somthing either ronaldo or aguero (or both:drool:)
Ive personally lost confidence with rooney. These are hunches im getting, ive learnt to trust them.

Then you are a sad little man
 
If the only business we do is to lose ronaldo and gain berbatov then we will be weaker. i wasnt that impressed with the teams posted above, it lacks somthing either ronaldo or aguero (or both:drool:)
Ive personally lost confidence with rooney. These are hunches im getting, ive learnt to trust them.

You're a child. Rooney is fantastic, a better player than Aguero, and with more class than Ronaldo. If you can't see that then you better run off and find a new team to support. Wayne Rooney IS Man United.
 
So yes, you want him to become another Robbie Keane.
:wenger:

I want Rooney to play more like Keane than he currently does. In no way does that mean I want him to play exactly like Robbie Keane. If he can find that balance between team creativity and individual impact, that is the way he will take the step up to his rightful place with the likes of Ronaldo and Messi as truly one of the top players in the world. And I feel Berbatov would be someone who could bring that out in him, as long as Rooney allows it to happen (for some reason I can't shake the feeling that Rooney will continue trying to do too much of the creative work rather than being on the end of others' :nervous:).
 
---------------Berbatov----------------
--Rooney------Anderson------Ronaldo--
---------Carrick-------Hargreaves------

That team would bring pure and utter devastation to all in it's path.

Carrick pulling the strings, Hargreaves doing the dirty work and bombing down the right, Anderson linking with the forwards, and Rooney and Ronaldo buzzing here there and everywhere around Berbatov. Then on the bench we'd have Tevez, Nani, Giggs and Scholes. :drool:
 
:wenger:

I want Rooney to play more like Keane than he currently does. In no way does that mean I want him to play exactly like Robbie Keane. If he can find that balance between team creativity and individual impact, that is the way he will take the step up to his rightful place with the likes of Ronaldo and Messi as truly one of the top players in the world. And I feel Berbatov would be someone who could bring that out in him, as long as Rooney allows it to happen (for some reason I can't shake the feeling that Rooney will continue trying to do too much of the creative work rather than being on the end of others' :nervous:).

But Rooney already is in that class, and people who don't see it are blind. The only way Wayne can improve is by increasing his goal tally and possibly making a few more charging runs (like Anderson did this season). Even these improvements aren't essential. Other than that he is the complete player.

And why try and stop Wayne being creative? For me he is our most important player. I'd be far more worried if we lost him than Ronaldo.:)
 
How much do you think it will be? Are you still hoping it'll be 30m+, or have you come down to earth and realised it'll be the still very good figure of 23-27m that most of us have said all along?
I don't recall saying it will be more than 30m (or possibly my memory is faulty), even if I wouldn't completely rule it out.

If you want me to stick my neck out, I'll say at least 27m.
 
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