It is funny that when it comes to Ronaldo it's all paper bollocks but when it's Berbatov, it's seemingly more credible......
His agent has more or less confirmed the contact, I'd say that's pretty credible.
It is funny that when it comes to Ronaldo it's all paper bollocks but when it's Berbatov, it's seemingly more credible......
On the guy who actually wants to play for us and won't feck off to Real in three or four years?
Who are we supposed to believe?
The press who have at least some contacts in the industry, or you, who we know nothing about?
His agent has more or less confirmed the contact, I'd say that's pretty credible.
What percentage of press "transfers" are true? I'd guess under 10%.
Personally I look for quotes from real people that would sue if they weren't true, and I haven't seen one yet regarding Berbatov, although I am always willing to be proved wrong.
ps. read what his agent said again.
Didn't Huntelaar himself say last week that Utd were very interested? And how many other agents come out and try to engineer deals/contract for their clients with tales of "interest"?
I think that Berbatov is quite likely to come to OT, I'm just saying that it's funny that when it comes to Ronaldo all the stories are a lod of shit etc.......yet people cling onto every word/quote in the paper when it comes to Berbatov/other potential signings.
Many a times clubs plant these stories to put pressure on their target, or their clubs. It also helps in negotiations when the sellers know we have other targets we can pursue.
A 4321 could work but we would have to have maybe a more accomplished RB in going forward. If berbatov came you could play rooney and tevez behing him. With carrick hargreaves and scholes in midfield. Alves and evra as our fullbacks could have made that work.
However I prefer 442 and we should stick to that or a variation of that. Even if ronaldo stays we still need to sign a winger and in that I doubt there are much better wingers than the wide men of bayern munich.
I think that Berbatov is quite likely to come to OT, I'm just saying that it's funny that when it comes to Ronaldo all the stories are a lod of shit etc.......yet people cling onto every word/quote in the paper when it comes to Berbatov/other potential signings.
You shouldn't look at just the players age. You should look at how long they will stay at the top of their game, as different players age better than others. Adebayor will probably, like most players, stay at the top until he's 29-30 and then start falling away. Whereas Berbatov's style of play means he will likely remain at the top of his game until he's around 32. So they've both got 5 or 6 seasons left to play until their game starts deteriorating.
Their calender age may be 3 years different, but if the older one will play for comparitively 3 years longer then realistically what is the difference?
I've got exactly the opposite point of view on this. I want Rooney to take tips off Keane as to how to play with Berbatov. It's hardly a case of Berbatov dropping deep constantly and Keane having to always stay up front. It's more Berbatov stays up front when the opposition has the ball to give Spurs a target man and someone capable of then holding up the ball until his team-mates get into positions to recieve it. And when Spurs have the ball the two of them interchange perfectly, working better as a partnership than any I've seen since Yorke/Cole.
A lot of people have been saying over the last two seasons that Rooney is too focused on playing for the team and needs to be a bit more selfish at times. I think that Berbatov will allow him do to this perfectly. I don't want Rooney to be upfront all the time, expected to win the ball and hold it when we are on the backfoot. But I don't want him in behind doing all the creative work either. I want him playing in behind, but still hitting the holes and making the runs off his main striker. And Berbatov, more than any other striker in the world, will put Rooney into those spaces.
A Berbatov/Rooney combo should bring all the positives of the Rooney/Tevez combo (except the hard work and graft of Tevez), while improving both positions. Berbatov is more natural and effective up front, and Rooney is superior to Tevez in behind. I admit I do have a slight worry about the relative lack of pace a Berbatov/Tevez combo would bring, but they are good enough they should still open teams up (especially with Ronaldo on the wing).
Yeah, I know.
For £33 million we could get Benzema.
One thing i could see from this signing is Rooney scoring more goals.
ah, you mean like the guy that was a major factor in winning two titles and a european cup, and will make us 40 million quid profit if he goes - bad deal eh?
Defiantly, i think he feels the pressure of having to be the main scorer, when you let him do his natural game without having to think to what about what he should and should not be doing you will see the best of him. He has been learning in a new position though and this can only help him as a player. Im convinced if berbatov comes rooney will go up a level, as will our general team play - which is a frightening prospect![]()
Defiantly, i think he feels the pressure of having to be the main scorer, when you let him do his natural game without having to think to what about what he should and should not be doing you will see the best of him. He has been learning in a new position though and this can only help him as a player. Im convinced if berbatov comes rooney will go up a level, as will our general team play - which is a frightening prospect![]()
Brown------Ferdinand------Vidic------Evra
--Scholes------Carrick--
----Ronaldo----- ---Nani----
---Rooney---Berbatov---
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Brown------Ferdinand------Vidic------Evra
------------Scholes------Carrick--
-----Ronaldo----------------------Nani----
-------------Rooney---Berbatov---
If the only business we do is to lose ronaldo and gain berbatov then we will be weaker. i wasnt that impressed with the teams posted above, it lacks somthing either ronaldo or aguero (or both)
Ive personally lost confidence with rooney. These are hunches im getting, ive learnt to trust them.
Brown------Ferdinand------Vidic------Evra
--Scholes------Carrick--
----Ronaldo----- ---Nani----
---Rooney---Berbatov---
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If the only business we do is to lose ronaldo and gain berbatov then we will be weaker. i wasnt that impressed with the teams posted above, it lacks somthing either ronaldo or aguero (or both)
Ive personally lost confidence with rooney. These are hunches im getting, ive learnt to trust them.
If the only business we do is to lose ronaldo and gain berbatov then we will be weaker. i wasnt that impressed with the teams posted above, it lacks somthing either ronaldo or aguero (or both)
Ive personally lost confidence with rooney. These are hunches im getting, ive learnt to trust them.
These are hunches im getting, ive learnt to trust them.
Any hunches that you have the ability to fly and should jump off a tall building?
Just kidding, pal.
That's good, for the time Ronaldo is injured we can put Tevez on Ronaldo position and will be nothing new for him.
Damn imagine Manucho on bench, feck sakes that looks better than FM.[/QUOTE]
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So yes, you want him to become another Robbie Keane.
How much do you think it will be? Are you still hoping it'll be 30m+, or have you come down to earth and realised it'll be the still very good figure of 23-27m that most of us have said all along?There's nothing I want to add, but it's almost certain that Berbatov will be playing for you next season.
I want Rooney to play more like Keane than he currently does. In no way does that mean I want him to play exactly like Robbie Keane. If he can find that balance between team creativity and individual impact, that is the way he will take the step up to his rightful place with the likes of Ronaldo and Messi as truly one of the top players in the world. And I feel Berbatov would be someone who could bring that out in him, as long as Rooney allows it to happen (for some reason I can't shake the feeling that Rooney will continue trying to do too much of the creative work rather than being on the end of others').
I don't recall saying it will be more than 30m (or possibly my memory is faulty), even if I wouldn't completely rule it out.How much do you think it will be? Are you still hoping it'll be 30m+, or have you come down to earth and realised it'll be the still very good figure of 23-27m that most of us have said all along?
How much do you think it will be? Are you still hoping it'll be 30m+, or have you come down to earth and realised it'll be the still very good figure of 23-27m that most of us have said all along?