Never said anything about not liking him.
Was just asking what makes you think he will turn his back on his party's ideology after this.
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Was just asking what makes you think he will turn his back on his party's ideology after this.
So you're not allowed to say anything bad about Boris but celebrating Maggie Thatcher's death or wishing death on Trump is fine?
True but there are some people who seem to enjoy his current health situation because they don’t like his politics or his party. It’s frankly pathetic. Also blaming one man or a political party for not dealing with a worldwide pandemic is actually ridiculous. I’ve seen things like:
‘he’s caused thousands to die’, no he hasn’t he’s taking advice from experts on how to approach this situation.
‘Why are we not testing more, why is he being tested before frontline nurses’. A pretty obvious supply and demand issue government can’t do much about, the whole world need these testing kits and there aren’t enough available.
It’s like people think another political party would do a better job. I highly doubt Labour or any other party would have done any better with this.
I think you can say bad things about them (within reason) but some other folks will call you a cnut for it
I'd imagine if you are a deeply suffering victim of covid19, it would be a highly spiritual, philosophical and life changing event.
We all also agree covid19 is a society changing event on every level.
Both statements are just common sense. That's my view.
I think everyone is entitled to voice their grievances of Boris's present and past conduct. Wishing that he dies or being jolly about his death is something completely different and frankly, revolting. I for one really like the man and would be pretty devastated if he doesn't make it through.
So going around hospitals shaking infected people's hands is following expert advice? Then addressing the nation and boasting about it.
Fair enough, I understand it's your view that's all.
The Economic crisis is already bad enough without wishing a prime minister ill or that he need resign when the markets will fall even further and the prospective horror of Gove waiting in the wings.
Johnson is still a young man relative to say Churchill who kept going to 80 after at least 2 strokes, although obviously I wouldn't compare Boris favourably in any other way. Simply that we desperately need consistency at this time.
Johnson is still a young man relative to say Churchill who kept going to 80 after at least 2 strokes, although obviously I wouldn't compare Boris favourably in any other way. Simply that we desperately need consistency at this time.
I'm sure he will take it on the chin and pull through. Good to hear he's in stable condition.
Of course you are allowed to criticise anyone. That's not what people are doing. They are actively wishing and posting about their wish that a man dies. It doesn't matter if it is Boris, Trump, Thatcher or whoever. That's not what this forum is about.
He shouldn’t of shaked their hands but I’m sure he would have washed his hands afterwards and he trying to raise spirits of people in hospital with the virus. There is no evidence to show that’s how he got the virus anyway.
The economy has already gone to shit anyway. All nations are just plucking money out of thin air at the moment.
You feel that things can't get shittier?
There's debt and maintaining the level of the pound to be able to service debt at some point.
that's exactly correct. It's in the Caf charter. Niall insisted on it.
He will take it on the chin but if he pulls through it will be a great political move for him. He’ll be some sort of British bulldog hero. Lefty Twitter will love it.
Boris, a really powerful man: says some really horrible racist and bigoted stuff
A nobody on an internet forum: Boris isn't a very nice person
Other nobodies on the internet forum: You heartless bastard how dare you?!?!
A nobody on an internet forum: Boris isn't a very nice person
Other nobodies on the internet forum: You heartless bastard how dare you?!?!
I said this last night. He'll be the new Churchill.
Bulldogs have terrible breathing problems too. The metaphor is too neat.
Surely we can make an exception for Trump, no?
100% it’s going to get worse, my point is if the Prime Minister does die thats the least of our worries with the economy. He can be replaced. The international market should have been frozen weeks ago. Instead it’s crashing down on itself and there will be cnuts shorting the market and making billions no doubt.
I wish him a speedy recovery, but he is no more worthy (arguably less) of empathy than any of the other thousands of people infected and/or dying from this virus.
Optimistically, I hope that this experience proves to be an eye-opener for him regarding the current crisis, and longer-term, the critical value of the NHS. Seems like it would be an easy win for him, PR-wise too - a big "ive seen the light" moment.
Optimistically, I hope that this experience proves to be an eye-opener for him regarding the current crisis, and longer-term, the critical value of the NHS. Seems like it would be an easy win for him, PR-wise too - a big "ive seen the light" moment.
Yep. Of course it's not ideal when your country's leader is in intensive care but he was moved there as an extra precaution, they didn't wait like they do for many other patients I'm sure. Which I understand but people are acting like he had half his head hanging off and if he pulls through then he is the second coming.
People are saying now that this shouldn't be politicised, but be incredibly naive to think he isn't going to
This thread was going to be a trainwreck from the get go. People making excuses for him and his incompetence isn't going to help. Even in third world countries like Pakistan they have wider testing in place than we do. The problem was not supply and demand, it was trying to find the cheapest solution that wouldn't impact the economy which he could get away with.
I really hope he doesn't die - the last thing we need is a Tory PM being treated like a Martyr.
No-one is indispensable, I merely don't see the limited confidence in the pound and stock market being maintained during a dog eat dog exercise of replacement and have to ask which one of the cabinet is even up to Boris' level of holding the country together. I don't agree with you no matter how much I dislike the tories or Johnson. The country doesn't need more shit on shit where we can hope he'll get better instead some people wish him ill.
This is the same Boris Johnson who has lobbied for the break up of the ‘top-down, monopolistic, monolithic’ NHS, yeh?
Internet: I dislike Boris for his lack of empathy
Also Internet: I don't care Boris is dying
Hypocrisy: Did someone call?
you what?Clap for Boris... fecking heard it all now
I replied to that point a few posts later. Here again for your perusal.
I never voted for him, partly because I disagreed with his rumoured NHS plans. But people change when circumstances change.
Full of dickheads on Facebook following e local paper are up for it.
literally clueless.
literally clueless.
His mates on the news would have you believe he’s Roger Federer.
in 2017 johnson, as with all the other tories, voted against a pay rise for NHS workers and firemen.
They cheered when they won. On live TV.
While I hope he recovers, the idea of clapping for that makes me want to puke.
They cheered when they won. On live TV.
While I hope he recovers, the idea of clapping for that makes me want to puke.
Lets hope so... On the other hand, he might just remain his same old self and use it purely politically, touting himself as the indestructible Boris, the next coming of Churchill, or some shit. Wouldn't put it past him.
Out of interest, out of the people who want him gone, what’s your best case scenario in terms of a replacement? Because Raab and Gove are even more odious, in my opinion.
There are no upsides from the tory party at all.
Raab truss and patel are co authors of britannia unchained, a book that suggests britains are the world's worst idlers and this country is a high tax, high welfare country that needs to be more like India to compete on the global stage.
Remember that the next time someone tells you corbyn is an extremist.
Gove is basically murdoch's handpuppet and more vindicitive and dishonest than johnson.
Its just bad whatever happens.
Feck me. He's got that, too?
Was that on 5 live? There was a guy on last night saying 'he runs rings around me' on the tennis court. He also used an example that Boris played rugby at school so is therefore fit. Unsurprisingly he used to work in PR or something.
Hoping Boris is okay.
That was a vote for lifting the pay cap which was then lifted a few months later was it not?