Chelsea vs Manchester United

van der Sar
O'Shea Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher Carrick Anderson
Valencia Rooney Giggs​

Guess it's this then...
thats a good solid side with good attacking/defending balance

come on lads!!!
 
Drobga + Anelka vs Vidic + Evans :nervous:
Essien, Cole, Lampard & Ballack vs Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson :nervous::nervous:
 
Drobga + Anelka vs Vidic + Evans :nervous:
Essien, Cole, Lampard & Ballack vs Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson :nervous::nervous:

What the feck is wrong with some people?

Vidic and Evans - oh yea that shite defensive partnership that broke clean sheet records last season, and Vidic who's kept Drogba quiet nearly every time he's faced him - what a donkey.

Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson, that awful midfield trio that absolutely destroyed Arsenal in the CL last season.

With such shite players on our team, no wonder everyone's got such an inferiority complex.
 
What the feck is wrong with some people?

Vidic and Evans - oh yea that shite defensive partnership that broke clean sheet records last season, and Vidic who's kept Drogba quiet nearly every time he's faced him - what a donkey.

Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson, that awful midfield trio that absolutely destroyed Arsenal in the CL last season.

With such shite players on our team, no wonder everyone's got such an inferiority complex.

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I reckon our best chance of really getting at them is trying to expose Ivanovic like we did in the Community Shield. Evra and whoever starts on the left are going to be really important.

Valencia has a tough job too with keeping Cole quiet.

Given developments about the squad i'm now pretty certain it will be:

VDS
O'Shea Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher Carrick Anderson
Valencia ---------- Giggs
Rooney​
 
That's a balls if it's true that Berbatov hasn't traveled.

I like the line up listed above, I really don't think Scholes should start, he hasn't got the legs to deal with that Chelsea midfield.
 
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7 League winners medals, 10 FA Cup medals v

12 League winners medals, 5 Champions League medals and one FA Cup Medal

actually, i think anelka and ashley cole would have medals from their time at arsenal but then we also have league cup winners medals.

the point i was trying to make was that of these sets of players, it's ours who have won the last 3 titles whilst getting a european cup winners medal whilst also reaching an extra final.

on paper, chelseas team sounds stronger but then it has done for the last few years and yet we've generally been alright.

on paper. shevchenko was a better player than saha and ballack a better player than carrick. i know which two i'm glad we had.


* ignore the ashley cole bit, confused myself like a twat
 
Drobga + Anelka vs Vidic + Evans :nervous:
Essien, Cole, Lampard & Ballack vs Fletcher, Carrick & Anderson :nervous::nervous:

if we're talking medals on the table, our lads kick the shit out of theirs.

Right I got bored.

EPL 8
FAC 11
LC 7
CL 1
Turkish League 1
German League 4
Geman Cup 3
German LC 1
French League 1

v

EPL 12
Championship 1
LC 4
Yugoslav cup 1
Serb League 1
CL 4
FAC 1
Brazil Serie b 1
Portugal League 2
Portugal cup 1

total: Chelsea 37 v 28 united (although chelsea had an extra player)
 
Right I got bored.

EPL 8
FAC 11
LC 7
CL 1
Turkish League 1
German League 4
Geman Cup 3
German LC 1
French League 1

v

EPL 12
Championship 1
LC 4
Yugoslav cup 1
Serb League 1
CL 4
FAC 1
Brazil Serie b 1
Portugal League 2
Portugal cup 1

total: Chelsea 37 v 28 united (although chelsea had an extra player)

Isn't it like comparing apple with oranges, also the average age of chelsea player should be in 30s, and ours is in the mid 20s
 
I cannot see Giggs starting, he hasn't played in a few games and to chuck him back in against Chelsea isn't a great idea.

If Berba is fit..

Van der Sar
O'Shea Vidic Evans Evra
Valencia Fletcher Anderson Nani
Berbatov Rooney​

If not then....

Van der Sar
O'Shea Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher Carrick Anderson
Valencia Rooney Nani​
 
i'd still rather have our medal haul.

i was trying to make the point that of the two squads over the last three years (comparing the same set of midfielders in particular) we had been pretty successful.

carrick and anderson have won the league in each of their seasons and fletcher has only been a first team pick over the last couple of seasons.

vidic has won the league in each of his full seasons and evans won it in his first last year.

i made the point in another thread that i think people see names like deco and ballack and immediately rank them better than players like carrick and fletcher just because of who they are and not what they bring to the team.

i'm not disputing chelsea should be favourites today just confused that a lot of united fans haven't learnt it's not reputation but performance that matters and hence we aren't as likely to be pulverised as some people are making out.

also, on the medals front, that'd look very different if we took anderson out and put giggs in :)
 
Isn't it like comparing apple with oranges, also the average age of chelsea player should be in 30s, and ours is in the mid 20s

Of course you're correct but I wasn't using it as a benchmark to prove anything I was just interested in seeing if what DA said was true really.
 
Rooney will definitely be playing as the lone man upfront, which is very annoying, but lets lay down a marker today, come on united!
 
--------------- Van der Sar --------------
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--- O'Shea --- Vidic --- Evans --- Evra--
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---- Valencia -- Fletcher -- Anderson ---
------------------ Giggs -----------------
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------------ Owen -- Rooney ------------

1-0, Fletcher.
 
Rooney will definitely be playing as the lone man upfront, which is very annoying, but lets lay down a marker today, come on united!

Why?

Last time he did that against Chelsea he scored.
 
No Berbs?!!!

I hope he plays Nani, Rooney, Valenica up top... Might be a blessing... If Berbs was fit Fergie probably would have played 4-4-2