Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!

Lawman said:
Don't get all this Levy won't sell to us rubbish. He'd sell to the highest bidder and if two bids get accepted one abroad and one in the premiership then he'd try to point him abroad. That's what any club would do.
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I think Levy would prefer selling him to someone abroad, just like he did with Modric. I just can't see United paying big money for Bale, if he stays in England it will be City who buy him.
 
Bale is going to demand a ridiculous price now. The fact he does what he does when he's the targeted player every match shows just how good he is.

He's also built a Ronaldo esque tag and is worth more to Spurs than they'd be able to get for him at this stage. I'd say he'll got for 50-60m, might be able to get him for 30m if you wait until his contract runs down
 
Sixpence said:
You complain about someone chatting shite then proceed to say Bale isn't even in the top 5 attackers in the PL? Irony alert.
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He most certainly is not in the top five in the pl.

Rvp
rooney
mata
Aguero
Silva
Tevez
In no particular order there are six better than bale straight off the top of my head.
 
Lawman said:
Don't get all this Levy won't sell to us rubbish. He'd sell to the highest bidder and if two bids get accepted one abroad and one in the premiership then he'd try to point him abroad. That's what any club would do.
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There is a Premier League premium, as with most players being sold within the league. Look at Modric, was it £27m he went for despite Chelsea bidding £40m the summer before (and they were holding out for £50m)

Levy will sell within the Premier League, no doubt, but he'll whack on an extra £10-15m to sweeten the deal (which he's fully entitled to do).

It's not a case of Levy not selling, it's about Levy squeezing every last penny possible from the potential buyer within the Premier League to ensure Spurs get value and more.

If Bale said he wants out, I'm convinced he'd be allowed to go to Madrid for around £15-20m less than what he would cost United, City or Chelsea. A random guess of £60m to PL clubs and around £40m for those abroad.
 
Quinton Fortune said:
Bale is going to demand a ridiculous price now. The fact he does what he does when he's the targeted player every match shows just how good he is.

He's also built a Ronaldo esque tag and is worth more to Spurs than they'd be able to get for him at this stage. I'd say he'll got for 50-60m, might be able to get him for 30m if you wait until his contract runs down
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He signed a new contract pretty recently.
 
ISSYNAZAR said:
There is a Premier League premium, as with most players being sold within the league. Look at Modric, was it £27m he went for despite Chelsea bidding £40m the summer before (and they were holding out for £50m)

Levy will sell within the Premier League, no doubt, but he'll whack on an extra £10-15m to sweeten the deal (which he's fully entitled to do).

It's not a case of Levy not selling, it's about Levy squeezing every last penny possible from the potential buyer within the Premier League to ensure Spurs get value and more.

If Bale said he wants out, I'm convinced he'd be allowed to go to Madrid for around £15-20m less than what he would cost United, City or Chelsea. A random guess of £60m to PL clubs and around £40m for those abroad.
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The onky chance they have of getting those figures is if he plays this well every game till the end of the season. Which he won't.
 
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[B]Season    Age      Player    Goals    Assists    MPG     Mins[/B]
07/08	  22/23	   Ronaldo     31	 8	 89	 2746
12/13	  23	   Bale	       13	 4	 149	 1931
08/09	  23/24	   Ronaldo     18	 6	 153	 2747
06/07	  21/22	   Ronaldo     17	 17	 163	 2779
05/06	  20/21	   Ronaldo     9	 7	 254	 2285
11/12	  22	   Bale	       10	 14	 322	 3216
10/11	  21	   Bale	       7	 2	 350	 2447
03/04	  18/19	   Ronaldo     4	 4	 390 	 1559
04/05	  19/20	   Ronaldo     5	 5	 485	 2424
09/10	  20	   Bale	       3	 5	 571 	 1713

[I]*MPG = Minute per goal[/I]

So Bale's current season now goes 2nd. Only 5 goals behind Ronnies 2nd largest goal haul in the Premierleague. Not bad at all, not bad.
 
RedSky At Night said:
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Code: 
[B]Season    Age      Player    Goals    Assists    MPG     Mins[/B]
07/08	  22/23	   Ronaldo     31	 8	 89	 2746
12/13	  23	   Bale	       13	 4	 149	 1931
08/09	  23/24	   Ronaldo     18	 6	 153	 2747
06/07	  21/22	   Ronaldo     17	 17	 163	 2779
05/06	  20/21	   Ronaldo     9	 7	 254	 2285
11/12	  22	   Bale	       10	 14	 322	 3216
10/11	  21	   Bale	       7	 2	 350	 2447
03/04	  18/19	   Ronaldo     4	 4	 390 	 1559
04/05	  19/20	   Ronaldo     5	 5	 485	 2424
09/10	  20	   Bale	       3	 5	 571 	 1713

[I]*MPG = Minute per goal[/I]

So Bale's current season now goes 2nd. Only 5 goals behind Ronnies 2nd largest goal haul in the Premierleague. Not bad at all, not bad.
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He's having a great season. The Ronaldo comparisons don't help Bale though, he's not near that.
 
The only worry is the assist column. Suggests that he is more selfish this season. Or is all the blame on Defoe?
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
He most certainly is not in the top five in the pl.

Rvp
rooney
mata
Aguero
Silva
Tevez
In no particular order there are six better than bale straight off the top of my head.
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Tevez? Not sure if serious. And what's Silva done this season?

Right now, Bale is up there with RVP, Suarez and Mata, his consistency matches them. Aguero, Rooney and Silva have not been that consistent this season. People need to wake up and admit what they are seeing.
 
Cheesy said:
He's comfortably in the top 10 attackers in the league, no question about that right now. Maybe top 5 at a push.

All of this hype is just insane though. I feel sorry for Bale. Even if he's a bit arrogant he's just trying to play the best he can but he receives all of this ridiculous hype.
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Okay yeah went too far with not top 10, but I'd have Suarez, van persie, Rooney, silva, Aguero, mata all comfortably ahead of him, and then hazard and cazorla at his level.
 
Some ridiculous underrating of Wayne Rooney, as per, going on in here. He's comfortably up there with the best in the league, and certainly above Gareth Bale.
 
ISSYNAZAR said:
There is a Premier League premium, as with most players being sold within the league. Look at Modric, was it £27m he went for despite Chelsea bidding £40m the summer before (and they were holding out for £50m)

Levy will sell within the Premier League, no doubt, but he'll whack on an extra £10-15m to sweeten the deal (which he's fully entitled to do).

It's not a case of Levy not selling, it's about Levy squeezing every last penny possible from the potential buyer within the Premier League to ensure Spurs get value and more.

If Bale said he wants out, I'm convinced he'd be allowed to go to Madrid for around £15-20m less than what he would cost United, City or Chelsea. A random guess of £60m to PL clubs and around £40m for those abroad.
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Modric's fee was not 27m. The average of the reported figures was in excess of 33m.

If you think Levy would sell Bale for just 40m, whether abroad or not, you're living in cloud cuckoo land.
 
Ash_G said:
Jeff Stelling was saying Bale is better than Ronaldo. And whilst the rest of them didn't quite agree with that they unanimously said he was the hottest property in world football right now or something like that. But then they really don't know anything outside of the pl, we all know that.
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"Hottest property in Europe" doesn't suggest he's the best player, just that a lot of top sides would be interested in him. I don't think that's to far from the mark, especially given he's not at a top side and is fairly likely to want to move in the not to distant future.

Some comments on here I find bizzare. Evidently the media will hype him - but so what? Doesnt make him any less of a talent, nor take away from what he's doing now.

How long until he gets some credit? People are quick to praise our own young players performances but seem to like to criticise. Fact is he's about the same age as Welbeck and Cleverly and his performances this season have been on a different level.

Can't recall many lads that age winning games on their own and looking like they relish the responsibility. Sign of a very special player in my opinion and if handled right he could be a really top player.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Modric's fee was not 27m. The average of the reported figures was in excess of 33m.

If you think Levy would sell Bale for just 40m, whether abroad or not, you're living in cloud cuckoo land.
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I think it depends strongly on Spurs intentions.

They don't seem to have bundles of cash and a new stadium would oust a lot of money. If they don't finish top 4 I think they've got less of a chance of holding clubs to ransom. I think £45 to £50 million will get him, especially when Real Madrid come sniffing. He'll want to be away.
 
If they don't qualify for fourth, Bale would be looking to move on. That should knock some millions off the price Levy wants.
 
RedRover said:
I think it depends strongly on Spurs intentions.

They don't seem to have bundles of cash and a new stadium would oust a lot of money. If they don't finish top 4 I think they've got less of a chance of holding clubs to ransom. I think £45 to £50 million will get him, especially when Real Madrid come sniffing. He'll want to be away.
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The media hype alone has probably added another £10m onto his fee, this move is going to be massive, bigger than the Torres deal.
 
Regarding Modric's fee, the 33m you say is what I've been reading too...but that's been in Euros. Transfermarkt have it down at £26.4m and they're generally very accurate.

If Spurs don't push on and kick on, they cannot dictate the price fully. If it was a case of Spurs selling Bale tomorrow, yes claiming £40m would mean I live in cloud cuckoo land, but I've already said I expect him to stick around for a bit and eventually when he's stated he wants to leave to actually achieve something other than the 3rd/4th placed trophy (Wenger, 2012), you guys probably won't be able to fully dictate the price.

However to a PL club, you'll have far more power in setting an extraordinary premium than you would to a club like Madrid, especially whilst having a player who would want out.

This is all hypothetical. If Manchester United can go to Arsenal and sign their best player, anything can happen (contract issues or not).

It's certainly not a case of the best player in the world who has a European cup medal in his collection going up for sale though, £40m to a foreign club seems very plausible to me. Unless £40m has suddenly become the rate for a 'decent' player?
 
ISSYNAZAR said:
Regarding Modric's fee, the 33m you say is what I've been reading too...but that's been in Euros. Transfermarkt have it down at £26.4m and they're generally very accurate.

If Spurs don't push on and kick on, they cannot dictate the price fully. If it was a case of Spurs selling Bale tomorrow, yes claiming £40m would mean I live in cloud cuckoo land, but I've already said I expect him to stick around for a bit and eventually when he's stated he wants to leave to actually achieve something other than the 3rd/4th placed trophy (Wenger, 2012), you guys probably won't be able to fully dictate the price.

However to a PL club, you'll have far more power in setting an extraordinary premium than you would to a club like Madrid, especially whilst having a player who would want out.

This is all hypothetical. If Manchester United can go to Arsenal and sign their best player, anything can happen (contract issues or not).

It's certainly not a case of the best player in the world who has a European cup medal in his collection going up for sale though, £40m to a foreign club seems very plausible to me. Unless £40m has suddenly become the rate for a 'decent' player?
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No, not 33m euros, £33m+ For example, the spanish media (including Marca) said 35m euros + a possible 7m euros in add-ons

As for Bale, he is only going to get even better. His price later will be more than his price now.
 
GlastonSpur said:
No, not 33m euros, £33m+ For example, the spanish media (including Marca) said 35m euros + a possible 7m euros in add-ons

As for Bale, he is only going to get even better. His price later will be more than his price now.
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People seem to think that Spurs and Levy are tough negotiators seemingly based on the Chelsea and Modric situation. Seems the result was they kept him another year and got less money than they would have.

For me it may be a different story regarding Bale. He might get better, but I doubt he'll ever sign a new contract so that's only a benefit for a short time.

I think £50 million will be hard to turn down in the days of FFP where fees are probably likely to stagnate.
 
Forevergiggs said:
The only worry is the assist column. Suggests that he is more selfish this season. Or is all the blame on Defoe?
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Tbf to him Tottenham's strikers are terrible. He had two involvements today that could easily have been assists if the rest of the front men were more clinical.

Similar to Walcott in a sense. If Giroud wasnt terrible his assist column would look a lot better as well.
 
Brosstan said:
In what world is overrating Mata "same old, same old". Hes probably the least overrated player in the league when you look at his talent and his effectiveness and then compare it to players like Bale.
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Considering there's now a mass amount of people calling him 'world class' and claiming he's alongside RVP and Suarez as the best player in the league, then yes, that's overrated. Mata is a very good player who has had some cracking games, he's certainly not anywhere near as good as so many people nowadays are trying to make out.
 
GlastonSpur said:
No, not 33m euros, £33m+ For example, the spanish media (including Marca) said 35m euros + a possible 7m euros in add-ons

As for Bale, he is only going to get even better. His price later will be more than his price now.
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What's his price now?
 
His price is now 32.3m Euros. If he gets the MOTM next match then it's 34m Euros.
 
Forevergiggs said:
Who were you thinking, Coms? Nani?

Player exchanges hardly ever happen. I doubt it.
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Sorry mate, had to sign off......yeh I was thinking Nani or Valencia, most probably Nani as he is more versatile. Not sure if being Portuguese would heighten preference for Villas-Boas.

I doubt it would happen either, although with it being a deal of such magnitude it is possible. Depends on the exchange player as much as anything. Levy may see the attraction in attaining a talented replacement in the deal, plus the excessive transfer fee on top for re-directing into other areas. Think Damiao is all but signed on for the summer but they could do with strengthening their midfield also.

Often when a team loses it's driving force or matchwinner, they compensate in a more collective manner. If they lose Bale they need to make sure all areas of their squad are tight.
 
JP77 said:
Considering there's now a mass amount of people calling him 'world class' and claiming he's alongside RVP and Suarez as the best player in the league, then yes, that's overrated. Mata is a very good player who has had some cracking games, he's certainly not anywhere near as good as so many people nowadays are trying to make out.
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So hes nowhere near Suarez? Thats laughable. RVP is a class above and I dont see anyone claiming hes alongside him. But hes in the tier right below that and theres not many better than him. Hes on par with Suarez in terms of raw talent and I would only have Suarez above based on importance for their respective teams and the quality (and lack of in Suarez' case) of the players alongside them.

Hes easily above Rooney based on influence and effectiveness this season. Talentwise its up for argumentation. Personally I would have Rooney above him but its not outlandish to argue otherwise.
 
Bale is considerably younger than Suarez, Rooney, RVP.
 
RedRover said:
"Hottest property in Europe" doesn't suggest he's the best player, just that a lot of top sides would be interested in him. I don't think that's to far from the mark, especially given he's not at a top side and is fairly likely to want to move in the not to distant future.

Some comments on here I find bizzare. Evidently the media will hype him - but so what? Doesnt make him any less of a talent, nor take away from what he's doing now.

How long until he gets some credit? People are quick to praise our own young players performances but seem to like to criticise. Fact is he's about the same age as Welbeck and Cleverly and his performances this season have been on a different level.

Can't recall many lads that age winning games on their own and looking like they relish the responsibility. Sign of a very special player in my opinion and if handled right he could be a really top player.
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I think he gets plenty of credit, everything he does at the moment portrays him in a positive light. And he does deserve credit, he has developed his game superbly but some of it does go a little ott.

The hottest property in football, just highlights that, and it was at a time when the main host of the show was saying he was better than Ronaldo, clearly going too far. Either way, why is he a hotter property that say Suarez or Mata? The formed having more goals/assists for a weaker team, the latter having more for an equal team. All are roughly the same age. Fellani has like 1 less goal/assist then him I think.

Like I said Bale is doing very well and is certainly a big prospect but I think the media love in, is going very high atm.
 
Bale is a outstanding talent and that can not be denied, him & Manchester United are a match made in heaven I think he is our type of player and we are the perfect club for him to kick on and develop even more. But sadly I think we will be priced out of this one.
 
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