I'm saying it's retarded to let your "best" winger sit out.
Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances
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You mentioned this yesterday and I was confused. What are the 3 brainfarts you are referring to? Obviously the Chelsea League Cup (if League Cup can be class as "crucial") game but what are the others?
I agree but if he wont sign a new deal (and again there's no proof of this, it's just my opinion) he's essentially telling us he wants to leave. I cant see SAF picking an 'unhappy' player over the players he's used all season due to Nani being out injured anyway that would be stupid.
Liverpool away which gets mentioned often on here, and Tottenham home.
He's been in doghouse, after those 2 games for Big games atleast.
Steve Mcmahon mentioned on air at that time when he was over in England covering our game, that he overheard Sir Alex talking with someone about Nani's workrate and attitude and how he was unhappy with the consistency. I thought Bullshit at the time but it seems to be true more by the day.
The league cup thing was more about calling him out publicly to send him a message dead set.
But Liverpool away was 2 years ago, you think Nani has been in the doghouse since then? That doesn't add up when you look at it.
I don't remember the Tottenham home mistake? What was that?
Against Tottenham he didn't track back on many occasions. Vertonghen attacked on that flack and even for their goal and he was lousy tracking back.
Bale and Vetonghen dominated him and Rafa that day both going forward and back.
And i was referring to Anfield away this year too where he started and was frustrating.
Bale and Vetonghen dominated him and Rafa that day both going forward and back.
And i was referring to Anfield away this year too where he started and was frustrating.
You said he's had 3 brainfarts and now you just mean "frustrating games" but one actual brain-fart against Chelsea? So how many "frustrating games" have the rest of our wingers had? I'd say many.
The Vertonghen "own goal" was many a players' fault.
See my posts brother. I said 3 poor defensive displays/Brainfarts.
He's also contributed defensively since his return from injury. I don't see how that's an excuse for leaving him out really. Not playing our best and most skillful winger seems rather self detrimental to me. We'll regret it when he turns out for another team and performs at the level he's often done here for the past 2 years.
If he plays for someone else 'at the level he's often done here for the past 2 years', we won't be doing much regretting. He hasn't been consistent at all during that period and hasn't shown his best form for a long time now. Talented as he may be, he simply hasn't warranted a place in the team right now. Could have been on the bench at most. Not particularly shocking that he wasn't.
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After all the speculation in the press, Sir Alex says they want to keep him and just over one month later the caf has decided he is off again...
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You can look at it the negative way or you can see it as leaving out a just returned Nani so he is fresh for the Cup and QPR because Rooney, RVP won't be as fresh.
Fergie got it spot on yesterday with Welbeck instead of Nani/Valencia, I don't know how we can dispute that. It was a good decision but him not even being on the bench, well that was surprising.
He can still play a massive part in the return leg and Fergie certainly doesn't want to get rid of him.
He can still play a massive part in the return leg and Fergie certainly doesn't want to get rid of him.
I was hoping that he'd at least be on the bench if not starting yesterday. But, with the bench we did end up having and Fergie's game plan - I can see why he didn't make it.
For the home leg I really hope we have him around. After yesterday I'd drop Kagawa completely. Not just because Kagawa was poor but, with Nani he knows how to play in these games for us. Fergie himself he gives us something no one else really does. At OT it could be for all to play for - yesterday was a matter of being making sure we didn't leave ourselves in a hopeless situation.
For the home leg I really hope we have him around. After yesterday I'd drop Kagawa completely. Not just because Kagawa was poor but, with Nani he knows how to play in these games for us. Fergie himself he gives us something no one else really does. At OT it could be for all to play for - yesterday was a matter of being making sure we didn't leave ourselves in a hopeless situation.
Ah ok, totally misunderstood that and read it as 3 brainfarts.
I don't think he was poor defensively against the scouse fwiw, didn't have a good game but defensively was fine. Pretty similar to most of our winger displays this season.
SAF said this about Wednesday night's team selection:
''There were a lot of disappointed players.
''Nani and Ashley Young are two international footballers. I find it hard to explain that I have left them out.''
''There were a lot of disappointed players.
''Nani and Ashley Young are two international footballers. I find it hard to explain that I have left them out.''
I can fully understand why he left them out of the starting line-up, but I reckon we could've had one of them on the bench.
Well Ashley Young should be no where near the team in such important games.
Yet he was very good V Man city and Chelsea.
That doesn't mean that they are both at the same level. Nani is a much better player.
He was alright, I wouldn't trust him against Madrid. Then again Kagawa didn't do anything. I'd personally be tempted to play Nani in the home leg. That game at home to Bayern was amazing....
It's just a question of which Nani will turn up, with all the hullabaloo surrounding his contract etc. Add to that the fact that he's played nowhere near enough football this season to be thrown into a match of such importance as well. I'm far from being a big Nani fan, but if I thought he'd play anything like he was in 2011, it would be almost impossible to leave him out.
Nani will get the Reading game to make a bit of an impact. He played well against Fulham, but I could understand why Fergie didn't pick him for the Madrid match. With our line up, a player like Nani probably wouldn't have fitted into the system he wanted. Maybe he should have been on the bench, but players are left out completely every week and it's because we have a strong squad. Valencia is a defensive winger, who is contributing more in his own half than the opponents right now, so that's a good reason for him to be included if we were holding out for a draw, or looking to keep shape. He's been in and out of the team for weeks now, since Nani and Kagawa both recovered from injuries, and I think that will continue to be the case until someone shows signs of very good form. It speaks volumes when Welbeck is being used over the rest, but this needs to change if we want to compete on all fronts.
Nani crashes with police car.
Driver of the police car suspended.
It sounds like Nani's OK, but says a passenger in the police car had minor injuries.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-21483958
Driver of the police car suspended.
It sounds like Nani's OK, but says a passenger in the police car had minor injuries.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-21483958
Hope he starts on Monday.
Didn't beat the first man etc
I backed my car into a cop car the other day
Well he just drove off, sometimes life’s OK
Well he just drove off, sometimes life’s OK
I find it amazing that people on this forum will continuously consider Nani an important part of our present/future plans when he can't even make the sub bench in the biggest game of the season lol. I constantly fell that I have to state I am a fan of Nani before saying sumat like this but he is not a major part of Fergie's plans anymore. If Valencia keeps at the rate he is going, it won't be long before he is in the same bracket.
I've said it before and ill say it again...I wish Nani could fullfil the potential but it aint gonna happen at United anymore. As soon as Zaha comes, I expect him to feature promemtly. When Ryan Giggs is getting the nod before Nani, how can any fanboi argue lol
I've said it before and ill say it again...I wish Nani could fullfil the potential but it aint gonna happen at United anymore. As soon as Zaha comes, I expect him to feature promemtly. When Ryan Giggs is getting the nod before Nani, how can any fanboi argue lol
2 "lols" in one post....
What a nightmare of a post.
I don't agree with him but its hardly a nightmare post.
Nani has months left on his contract doesn't he? I hope he stays bcause he's gradually improved since his games back. I don't honk we can afford to lose a player of his quality and certainly not for Nowt!
Valencia has been poor IMO but itching its going to take more than one ropey season for him to get overlooked. He does need to improve mind.
It's next summer has contract expires. Perhaps if he is to leave, it'll be at a reduced fee this summer or nothing in a years time.
The only thing I can say about Nani is, he hasn't felt truly integral for a some time now so in essence "losing" him isn't the issue. It's making sure that in time his contribution is replaced by a player who can be equal to or better than him.
People will always say "who will come in and instantly replace him IF he leaves?" But given the fact he's barely made a contribution in the recent past, it's not even up for debate. The potential of Zaha could in time lead to a equal or better replacement should Nani leave.
The ideal situation would be that he stays and makes his mark again, but it's hard to judge. The signings of 2007 may well go down as some of the worst over the long-term if he leaves at a cut-price having made very little impact for us this season, added to the idea that Anderson too may also want to leave (which I understand is likely to be something lost in translation too).
What a nightmare of a post.
Started early have you lrm?
Hehe I'm blaming the iPhone and not the ale
Fair post really.
Fair enough.
He hasnt featured regularly for a while now. And when he has, he hasnt been brilliant. With Kagawa in the mix now and with a season under his belt next year, i think he'l make the left spot his own. With Zaha coming in, it wont be much of a loss even if Nani leaves but much will hinge on Valencia recovering his form. If he continues to stutter, we'l find it difficult. It'l be a shame to lose him on a low price though if it happens.
Also, am certain he'l be very good at another club.
It'll be gutting. Nani's a rarity in that he's got real magic in him, and has proven himself at the top level. If we lose him it really ought to be for a massive fee.
Incredible to think that both Nani and Anderson could very well be off this Summer.
I'm convinced Nani is off - (I said the same about the January transfer window, I guess I was wrong then), and due to Anderson's quotes yesterday he could be off too.
Disappointing really. Had hoped both would be here for many, many years to come. Both exciting players - too much consistency was the downfall for both players.
I'm convinced Nani is off - (I said the same about the January transfer window, I guess I was wrong then), and due to Anderson's quotes yesterday he could be off too.
Disappointing really. Had hoped both would be here for many, many years to come. Both exciting players - too much consistency was the downfall for both players.
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