I'd agree with a ban for anyone who doesn't pay up, and I'm one of the people who lost. BTW Glaston, your inbox is full.
Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid
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Pm your Paypal deatails Glaston or any other method you wish to be paid,well done for having the cajones.
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Jeez give a man time to piss. Your first question I took to be who has said they wouldn't be paying.
What the feck is up your arse tonight?
What the feck is up your arse tonight?
by piss I guess you mean try to figure a way out,I have nothing up my arse but a few piles.My problem is with you stating that you would support a ban for non payers when to be honest it has feck all to do with you.I am not going to argue but in my opinion you should mind your own business and if any of us didn't pay the bloke then put you oar in.
Look, we're all taking sneijder's non-transfer badly...
OK, thanks for letting me know ... I've cleared some space in it now.
No you are poking your nose where you shouldn't,I bet you are a traffic warden or tax inspector.
It's getting tiring now.
keep your feckin nose out then,Glaston please Pm me the relevant stuff.
Again with the aggression.
back on track, I hope Modric can (and is willing to) return to his previous form for Spurs.
Modric will sulk, Tottenham will fail to qualify for europe and he'll leave either in january or next summer for 20mil.
Im not sure if Chelsea will even go back in for him now. How will they be able to fit in Mata, Malouda, Mereiles, Ramires, Essien and Lampard in their midfield without restricting the roles of atleast two key components within the team? Then when you factor in Mereiles already having an understanding with Princess Nando, it seems like at the very least, a prudent move from Chelsea. Seeing both at their best, not many would say Luka is worth almost four times as much Mereiles at any point...
For once I agreed with Glaston:
I will accept money on his behalf seeing as his inbox is full.
I will accept money on his behalf seeing as his inbox is full.
As I've said before in this thread, the real issue has never been about how much Modric is "worth".
It's always been about Spurs having ambitions of their own, wanting to keep their best player, not needing the money and - with an eye on the longer term (pace Bale, Sandro, Walker or whoever) - being determined to squash so-called "player power" and end the belief of wealthy clubs that they can sign any Spurs player they want, when they want.
Chelski have wasted their summer pursuing the unattainable. They didn't pay heed to what Levy said. And the price of their stupidity and arrogance is that they've been left with a last-minute panic buy - I doubt if Meireles was even Plan C, let alone plan B.
Modric will be gone in the summer.
His head has been turned. The player couldn't even play against us the other week.
Shame for Spurs but they would have been better cashing in early on him
His head has been turned. The player couldn't even play against us the other week.
Shame for Spurs but they would have been better cashing in early on him
They'll still get a sizeable fee (30m) for him next year if he does go then which by no means is a cert.
Smart of them not to sell, even at 40 million. He's too important to the club.
Modric's handled the whole thing like a cnut. Lost a lot of respect for him. Glad we're not getting him.
Modric's handled the whole thing like a cnut. Lost a lot of respect for him. Glad we're not getting him.
Is it smart though when a player is in the kind of state they can't play for the club?
I would have got rid
I would have got rid
Yes.
Care to elaborate?
I'd hate to keep a player in the club who doesn't want to be there anymore and publicly wants out. If any CFC player had done what Modric did I'd rather ship him him out than keep him against his will. It's insulting for both the club and the fans.
Modric will still leave imo, either in January or in the summer. It's just another ego trip for Levi to prove that he's calling the shots and will do the deal when it personally suits him.
Hope it backfires on them.
Modric will still leave imo, either in January or in the summer. It's just another ego trip for Levi to prove that he's calling the shots and will do the deal when it personally suits him.
Hope it backfires on them.
He's not going to mope around on the pitch and devalue himself. Players who are of quality will kick into gear when they are in a game and he won't want to let his teammates down, no matter how he feels about the front office.
Sure, but Spurs aren't the level of Chelsea. Big difference.
And accepting the 20 million offer? What good would that have done us? If Chelsea had bid the 40 million at the beginning or 25/30 million and Drogba or Sturridge, then maybe but what the hell are we going to do with 20 million?
The player won't sulk or mope around, he has nowhere to go for 3/4 months at least and he won't want to go into the euros having spent the season playing like shit.
Except unlike Chelsea, we can't go out and bid 50 million for strikers or 25 million for defenders. And even if we did, we don't have CL or offer the wages to be able to attract the finished product of these kinds of players.
Not sure how it was insulting for Arsenal to keep Fabregas or Man utd to keep Ronaldo or City to keep Tevez.
Hilarious that a club trying to stand up for itself against Abrahmovich and not get shafted by a shite bid for one of the best midfielders in the league is actually because Levy wants to expand his ego, as opposed to a club actually wanting to keep its best players.
Spurs with it's best players doing their best couldn't qualify for the CL this season, they're going to find it even more difficult with a demotivated Modric. This has Torres' last season at Liverpool written all over it.
I feel both Chelsea and Spurs lost out in this tussle. They're going to go through the rest of the season less well off than they otherwise could have, if they had done their business properly.
I feel both Chelsea and Spurs lost out in this tussle. They're going to go through the rest of the season less well off than they otherwise could have, if they had done their business properly.
Bad for all parties, mostly Spurs and Modric.
He'll be off next summer at the latest. Should have cashed in and invested.
It clearly became a pride issue for Levy rather than a footballing or financial one.
He'll be off next summer at the latest. Should have cashed in and invested.
It clearly became a pride issue for Levy rather than a footballing or financial one.
Interesting. Modric stay's. Must be some daft posters who predicted this ending.
Yeah it's no bad thing for a club to tell players to honour a contract. Modric will knuckle down and get on with it - if he has a sulky shit season no one will want to buy him next year.
How is it a pride issue? A financial one meant rejecting the appalling 20 million offer Chelsea put in. And a footballing one means not selling him when they finally offer a reasonable amount a day before the window closes and, more importantly, keeping our best players.
Fair play to Levy, who defied those in the media who couldn't understand this strange concept of a non-CL club actually trying to stand up for itself against a falsely rich one and not bending over as soon as some money is put on the table.
It's about what's best for the club though and the fact Levy decided to stake his reputation on the deal not happening by stating he's not for sale at ANY price.
Would you rather have the same squad more or less as last season which ultimately fell behind the rest of the top teams only this time with an unhappy Modric or would you rather let a clearly restless player go for a sky high, inflated fee(£40m is way above his true value IMO)and use the funds to strengthen the squad as a whole and put yourselves in a better position to challenge for CL football once again? £40m plus the money you raked in from the fringe players would have enabled you to get Cahill, Rossi, Diarra, Falcao or whomever else you had an interest in, now you've got none of those and have practically swapped Palacios and Jenas for Parker, and Crouch for Adebayor(for one season only). Not a great leap forward in my book...
This was a big transfer window for Spurs, they either went out and strengthened a squad not too short of top 4 contention or stagnated. I believe they've done the latter and will now begin the slide back to mediocrity starting with a lower finish than last season, then Redknapp leaving at some stage in the next 12 months, and then Modric getting his move next year, then Bale and the other big guns at Spurs wanting away etc, etc.
Spurs haven't stagnated at all. They've kept their two best players like Modric and Bale, whilst added the likes of Friedel, Parker and Adebayor who are very good signings, plus they've also got rid of the deadwood and this may enable them to get good signings in the future. I still think they should've tried for a defender much earlier though.
This whole episode will come back to haunt you guys this season. Not that it's entirely Spurs' fault, Chelsea had a part to play by not putting down enough money early, for the player they really wanted. But I think if Levy had played a slightly different game, he could have had the money he wanted earlier.
You are not likely to get the same level of performance from Modric now, and next season he may well be sold for a lot less than the alleged final offer. It's not about pride, it's about prudence.
Course they have, Jenas and Palacios have made way for Parker which makes them weaker in depth(and Parker is hardly the type of player that's going to lift them to the next level is he?), Adebayor is an improvement on Crouch but again, they needed to add to that area, not swap like for like with Adebayor offering no guarantee of even being there after this season. Friedel is a decent buy but without strengthening the defence, he'll be exposed anyway and it's not like Gomes or Cudicini were shit options for GK position anyway was it?
Even if they have improved by 1 or 2%(I don't think they have tbh), it's not enough when everyone else they are competing with has improved their squad tenfold with the exception of Arsenal. Liverpool have improved on the back of finishing the season better than Spurs, Chelsea have improved, City have improved, United have improved, and I'd still back Arsenal with every penny to my name to finish above Spurs.
40 million wasn't offered until the day before the transfer window closed, leaving us absolutely no time to bring in any kind of replacement. And it wasn't a pure 40 million offer either, it was 30 million and Alex.
As I said before, have you noticed what state the market is in at the moment? Falcao went for 40 million, with a potential 7 million added on. Juventus had a 35 million bid for Rossi rejected. Cahill, a defender as of yet untested at the highest level and with one year on his contract, was being offered at 17 million. We couldn't afford Diarra's wages so that's a bit of a moot point.
My point is that yes that's a great deal of money. But the way that some people talk about it, its as if we could have rebuilt our whole squad with that money, when actually, the money we received may not have been enough to buy one of the players we wanted. No to mention that this 'big money' was offered too late.
I think we've done alright in the window but am disappointed that we didn't do all the business we wanted. Still, I think Levy may be tightening the purse-strings for two reasons. Save money for the stadium. Redknapp will almost certainly be gone within the year, whether in jail, at England or having suffered the same fate as our other managers for a poor start.