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Mesut Özil
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Ancelotti didn't rate him and he's showing us why.
He's never been the type of player who will dominate games. He's there to provide a few moments of brilliance in the final third in each match, which generally means that even when he's in his best form he tends to drift in and out. When he's out of form, as he clearly is at the moment, he becomes a total passenger, and that leads to some slightly hysterical reviews of his performances.
I very much wish he starts. That big game record only tilts it more in Uniteds favour.
I still think he is class. But I always find myself questioning why Madrid were so happy to see him go, and why there weren't many suitors?
RM were probably happy to sell because they didn't want to continue with two defensive passengers in him and Ronaldo.
Maybe, but do Isco or di María provide anymore defensive cover in his place?
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Damn right, and there's plenty more where that came from too.
He is a very good player just not the top ten player in the world that he was vaunted as when he joined Le Arse.
Ancelotti made a comment about him that I can't quite recall exactly, but it was to the effect that he goes missing in the big games.
He said that, really?
I know the president took parting shots at him insinuating he was nothing more than a party boy.
Has nothing to do with that, not one single ting. When did I mention anything about running around? He lacks presence and do not show enough passion. Look at the way he lost the ball for the goal and how he just didn't care. Do you think that shows a player that wants to win? He is great when his team is domenating the game, but he is weak and fragile as soon as the game get hard. Has more to do with his mentality I think.
As Trapattoni said, today he was "schwach wie eine flasche leer" and that sums up how he is incredibly well.
I don't think him not showing up in big games was part of the reason for selling him. Managers don't think like that, especially when dealing with excellent players like Ozil. It was more to do with the defensive aspect of his game, which isn't the best. Again, Ozil went missing in a big game, but this is his first season in England, and he's done well. The best big game he's had this season was against Liverpool at home, but other than this fixture he's been average. He's a productive player, but he needs a manager that will push him to work hard. Ozil's best form was arguably in the second half of 11/12, where Mourinho made him work harder, and he ended up destroying Abidal at the Camp Nou and providing an assist, not to forget his assist for Ronaldo's goal in the crucial fixture against Barcelona towards the end of the season. As much as I'd like to join in, the reaction to his performance today is over the top.
Line the hostages up and I'll be back on Wednesday at midnight,
I wonder what the reaction about Moyes would have been if we'd signed him and he'd played like that for us?
On second thoughts, I really don't need to wonder.
On second thoughts, I really don't need to wonder.
Like I said, he's due one performance out of four versus us. He was anonymous the past three times... I can live with that.
Understandable why so many on here jump at the chance to criticize him, its the same with every world class player playing for a rival club. Sure he goes hiding at times in big games, but he's been very good for the most part this season. He's lost some form which is understandable given its his first season but he's given the whole Arsenal team a huge lift since he joined. Next season he'll be even better, especially once they strengthen further and get Ramsey and Walcott back fit.
Mata is better though for me, or at least was last season. He gets more involved in the overall game compared to Ozil who is always there to give the final ball. Both are world class and probably the two best #10 players in world football though, along with Silva.
Mata is better though for me, or at least was last season. He gets more involved in the overall game compared to Ozil who is always there to give the final ball. Both are world class and probably the two best #10 players in world football though, along with Silva.
Ancelloti also recently said it was a mistake letting him go, Real Madrid denied this but the news organisation say they have a recording of him saying it and called them out on this. Mourinho hasn't stopped singing his praises while he was in Madrid when he joined us.
Funnily enough I think the complete opposite, Mata has a lot of end product but in the build up play he falls short compared to others.
People expect miracles straight away but at the moment he is still settling in and around him he needs more mobile and quicker players compared to what we currently have.
Undoubtedly a class player, but had we signed him and our season had still gone the way it had, he'd be getting criticised now.
I think Ramsey being absent is massive.
It remains to be seen how good Mata will be for United. I'm sure if he doesn't come good opposition fans, including Arsenal, will be quick to remark.
Of course they will, but it doesn't make him a worse player if he doesn't fit in that well in our style (not many players do, not many would want to to be honest). We already know how good Mata is from the last few years at Chelsea just like we knew how good Ozil was at Madrid. They'll have to adapt to new surroundings but they're still world class players no doubt.
But, but king Jose said he was the best #10 in the world, right?
Anyone will look the dogs bollocks playing alongside Ronaldo.
Anyone will look the dogs bollocks playing alongside Ronaldo.
How do you work that one out? it was Ozil who was feeding Ronaldo regularly, not the other way round.
I just hope he flies. I loved him at Chelsea.
I'm sticking with this. It's what I thought before the season, it's what I thought a few months into this season, and it's what I think now.
The people who think he's some kind of football god are mostly the same types who go on about "key passes" or heat maps. Or in other words, bellends.
He's the sort of player who turns a 3-0 win into a 4-0 win, a 0-0 into a slightly less angry 0-0, and a battling defeat into a limping, pathetic surrender.
TBF Arsenal are missing Ramsey who really added a lot of balance to their midfield and helped get the best from Ozil.
Also it doesn't help that he is supplying Giroud who just isn't good enough to lead the line for a title aspiring team.
Also it doesn't help that he is supplying Giroud who just isn't good enough to lead the line for a title aspiring team.
If Löw is smart (He isn't) then he plays big-games-players with Müller, Götze and Reus in the attack at the World Cup
Özil was again poor in a big game..........he's a great player but he'll never reach the level of the top top players
Özil was again poor in a big game..........he's a great player but he'll never reach the level of the top top players
Chelsea the same with Mata and Hazard though...
He's the best technomidget in a club full of technomidgets.
Psh. Ronaldo made the runs. All Ozil had to do was execute perfect passes.
Execution is most important, knowing who and when to pass makes all the difference.
I might have been slightly tongue in cheek.
Bazinga
Nope, they're the people who watch games live, like in the stadium with 100% concentration as opposed to: knobends who watch 3 dodgy streams at once, dickheads who watch half a BT screening, and dildos who haven't played the game and don't have half a clue.