Shinji Kagawa

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Should have received the ball far more when he asked for it.
It was as if the rest of the players thought "No, he can't possibly do anything in such a tight space" based on their own limits and lack of courage on the ball today.
 
I'm sorry for him. Playing those wonderful through passes and Welbeck and Rooney fecking up the way they did. Dreadful performance from both of them.

He was very good.
 
Kagawa was our best player by a mile, fantastic little player. He has the technique but it is his equilibrium that makes him brilliant.
 
Felt sorry for him. Almost embarassed that he was moving so much to receive it only to be ignored and bypassed to the wing for the umpteenth time.

Looks very good indeed. His movement and football brain is on another level.
 
Shame to be surrounded by such mediocrity tonight, he looked on a different level to the rest of the team.
 
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Should have received the ball far more when he asked for it.
It was as if the rest of the players thought "No, he can't possibly do anything in such a tight space" based on their own limits and lack of courage on the ball today.
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Agreed. Was the only positive today along with De Gea. It was frustrating seeing the players not pass to him towards the end of the game when he was the only player that looked capable of create anything.
 
That pass to Cleverley which ended in the goal line clearance was very smart.

I think this fellow is exactly what we should be looking at. Comfortable on the ball, beautiful passing. He is going to be fantastic for us.

If we ever buy a midfielder, I want someone who is as comfortable on the ball as him, and not a Fellaini
 
How dare he try and play football, hopefully he'll succumb to mediocrity soon and stop with the silly through balls and play it safely back to the defenders. A stint on the wing will sort him out, if that doesn't then we could always move him into defense. The despicable little shit.
 
He was good but we haven't seen his best tonight.

At times he was totally out of the game and looked reluctant to take a man on which is kind of understandable for his first game and the fact that we so persistently passed the balls on the wings instead of trying to feed him with more passes didn't help either.

We still have a lot of adjusting to do if we want to get the best out of him.
 
Mentality is such an important part of a footballer. He looked totally unfazed and calm, trying to play to his best despite the team performing poorly in front of a hostile crowd. I guess he's used to the fans since I heard Bundesliga has better fans or stadiums than us or something. He definitely looks like a gem, and will create many moments of joy for us for many years to come.
 
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Should have received the ball far more when he asked for it.
It was as if the rest of the players thought "No, he can't possibly do anything in such a tight space" based on their own limits and lack of courage on the ball today.
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I noticed that quite a few times. Frustrating that he kept asking for the ball but we kept playing it out wide only for the ball to come back to midfield and then wide again and then back to midfield and then wide and then we lose possession.
 
He's every bit the player I thought he'd be but I didn't realize quite how much of a gap there remains on the squad in terms of technique. Perhaps it's a one off but I think it's going to take more than RVP to get this clicking the way SAF envisions.
 
He was our entire attack.
 
NoLogo said:
He was good but we haven't seen his best tonight.

At times he was totally out of the game and looked reluctant to take a man on which is kind of understandable for his first game and the fact that we so persistently passed the balls on the wings instead of trying to feed him with more passes didn't help either.

We still have a lot of adjusting to do if we want to get the best out of him.
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Maybe, but he already created 5 opportunities, of which four were great. That header rooney screwed up, the throughball for Welbeck when he got fouled and missed, another throughball in the second half for which Welbeck seemed to run through quicksand and got outpaced and then the calm layoff (in a hectic penalty area) to Scholes who finished it too nonchalantly which resulted in that goal line clearance.

If he's to get better, then he'll be Iniesta. :eek:
 
UnofficialDevil said:
Kagawa a class above Bale? Well I couldn't disagree more, and I really cant understand all the hype over Kagawa, I also just watched the match against SS to see what all the fuss was about and feel the same. I was much more exited after watching Jones on his debut last year.
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Still struggling?
 
FCBarca said:
He's every bit the player I thought he'd be but I didn't realize quite how much of a gap there remains on the squad in terms of technique. Perhaps it's a one off but I think it's going to take more than RVP to get this clicking the way SAF envisions.
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no shit. don't you have the gamper to watch and la maisa lads to suck off?
 
ha_rooney said:
I noticed that quite a few times. Frustrating that he kept asking for the ball but we kept playing it out wide only for the ball to come back to midfield and then wide again and then back to midfield and then wide and then we lose possession.
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Agree when Scholes got the ball he hesitated it was like he wasn't sure what to do when Kagawa showed through the middle as he is so used to spreading play but we had nobody wide. Its going to take time for us to settle playing 3 up front what we need is movement Danny was lost tonight on that front and Rooney and Nani were not at the races.
 
FCBarca said:
He's every bit the player I thought he'd be but I didn't realize quite how much of a gap there remains on the squad in terms of technique. Perhaps it's a one off but I think it's going to take more than RVP to get this clicking the way SAF envisions.
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It's the reason why we were never able to play calm possession football against pressing teams. We've added one such player, is it enough?
 
Show for me why he needs to be given that free role. Don't shackle him in centre mid except for rare occasions. Can become a huge player for us.
 
We have plenty of technically gifted players who like to keep the ball in small areas of the pitch like Nani, Cleverley, Welbeck, Shinji, Scholes and Rooney when he wants. The ball retention will improve drastically this year, watch
 
He should not miss out on a starting spot, not for Nani, not for Valencia and certainly not for Wayne Rooney. He created all our opportunities.
 
He is going to suffer from our obsession with moving the ball wide when we come up against a packed penalty area. We never seem to try to play quickly through the middle in tight spaces which I think is one of Kagawa's strengths.
 
An Irish Red said:
I fail to see how anyone who watched that match could come to the conclusion that Fellaini isn't comfortable on the ball. He was absolutely outstanding.
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Outstanding at being a target for people to fire balls at from every angle but he's simply not even close to Kagawa in terms of technique, obviously. And he'd prefer another technical midfielder than another physical one. Fellaini's tidy enough on the ball but isn't capable of excelling in a quick, short-passing side.
 
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Maybe, but he already created 5 opportunities, of which four were great. That header rooney screwed up, the throughball for Welbeck when he got fouled and missed, another throughball in the second half for which Welbeck seemed to run through quicksand and got outpaced and then the calm layoff (in a hectic penalty area) to Scholes who finished it too nonchalantly which resulted in that goal line clearance.

If he's to get better, then he'll be Iniesta. :eek:
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His passing was really good tonight but like I said he seemed a bit reluctant to take on his opponent which he did so well for Dortmund but I guess it's that he still is observing and trying to get really used to competitive play in the PL.

A few games and I think his confidence will be on top again and we will see some of those amazing dribblings he is capable off more often.

The rest of your team also needs to realize that playing through the middle is a really good option now with him.

I also hope we see him start together with RVP in the future, I feel the linkup play between those to will be really amazing in a few weeks.
 
It really is ridiculous how much better he seems to than everyone else in our team. He looks like a Barca player.
 
Lawman said:
Agree when Scholes got the ball he hesitated it was like he wasn't sure what to do when Kagawa showed through the middle as he is so used to spreading play but we had nobody wide. Its going to take time for us to settle playing 3 up front what we need is movement Danny was lost tonight on that front and Rooney and Nani were not at the races.
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Wasn't just Scholes there was a huge resistance to playing the ball centrally from a lot of our players. Kagawa and Cleverley looked on a completely different wavelength to anyone else. Not to say they were better, although Kagawa clearly was, but it was simply that they were showing for the ball in areas other players clearly didn't want to give it to them in. When Cleverley and Kagawa were playing it to each other there was a far better understanding there than when they were playing it to Scholes or anyone else besides maybe Welbeck.

There are two clashing styles running through our team that separate the generations in it one is all about short quick central passes, the other all about getting it wide and crossing it. That tension needs to be resolved otherwise we'll continue to look incoherent even with Kagawa.
 
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It really is ridiculous how much better he seems to than everyone else in our team. He looks like a Barca player.
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Makes you realise how its true when some people on this board itself are screaming for technically good players. The difference was so visible.
 
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