Tevez

peterstorey said:
Nah you've been playing 442 (or 4411 really, in the games I've seen).
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Heh, I knew you'd be the first one to reply to that post.

I reckon you're right, but if Scholes comes back I think we'll go back to a 4-2-3-1 because Scholes doesn't have the legs to cover the same amount of ground that Fletcher does and it lead to Carrick and Scholes playing deeper and the front four moving more freely with more space to work in and another great player to pick out their runs.
 
Devil_forever said:
1.Only won it due to the much better players not playing in the argentinian league and playing abroad.
2.Richardson also single handedly kept west brom up......don't go there.
3.No he played a part but any other good player could have done the same (intergral is too strong a word)
4."PRESEASON" against a bunch of shite teams, says its all.
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Hardly in the same way Tevez did with West Ham yes Richardson was good and did help in keeping them up but Tevez had a ridiculous record for West Ham in his final few games scoring something like 7 in 7. Also my dad and i reckon it would be tragic for Tevez to leave as he brings so much to us.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Answer me this. Which do you think is the more likely?
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I really don't know. I don't know if any of what i said might be true. What i know is that Tevez was not showing poor performances at the start of the season before signing Berbatov.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Nah, you and Brwned have been fighting the good fight for teenagers for a while now.

If it wasn't for the pair of ye, I'd be campaigning to make this place strictly over 18s :)
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Is Brwned an U18 too? I'm surprised by that, for some reason. He's one of my favourite posters on here, although now that I know he's a yoof, I'll have to make patronising comments at him, and call him "son".
 
Devil_forever said:
1.Only won it due to the much better players not playing in the argentinian league and playing abroad.
2.Richardson also single handedly kept west brom up......don't go there.
3.No he played a part but any other good player could have done the same (intergral is too strong a word)
4."PRESEASON" against a bunch of shite teams, says its all.
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You are hopeless...
 
brophs said:
Is Brwned an U18 too? I'm surprised by that, for some reason. He's one of my favourite posters on here, although now that I know he's a yoof, I'll have to make patronising comments at him, and call him "son".
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He's 17.

Allegedly.

For all we know he could be a fat, 50 year-old, who is ruthlessly grooming Sam via PM.
 
Wonder Pigeon said:
Hey what am I? Chopped liver?
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You a nipper two?

Ok, make that three of ye.

And on that note, I'm off to my scratcher. Not sure my missus would be all that keen on me spending my evening chatting to teens on t'internet, even when they do talk more sense than most "grown-ups"
 
Devil_forever said:
Typical Caf over reaction as usual:
1.Blackburn's defence was unbelievably bad!
2.His first goal was more of an own goal and quite lucky
3.The penalty was quite soft and his kick looked predictable, can't believe robinson went the other way.
4.His third goal was given to him really and anderson should have scored himself, unselfish from ando, shame tevez couldn't do the same a bit later on.

Mind you his 4th goal was pretty good and he looked quite good but this performance was against a blackburn side who really were awful in defence. To say that he should now be signed for whatever ridiculous figure and should now start based on this performance is ludicrous.

God I really do have a dislike for him:(
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You are pathetic.
 
You are being sarcastic though.
 
Tevez can be one of the best players in the world. He has the ability, the workrate and today he produced but he has to keep doing that. Delighted for him because he wants to play for United.

He gave an interview to mutv after, possebon had to translate. It would be easy for him to go to spain but he wants to be here. If the crowd keep encouraging him, we'll get the best out of him because we've not seen his best yet.

Let's hope today will give him the luck to score more goals because he'll always put in a shift to create chances
 
brophs said:
Is Brwned an U18 too? I'm surprised by that, for some reason. He's one of my favourite posters on here, although now that I know he's a yoof, I'll have to make patronising comments at him, and call him "son".
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:(

18 in April pretty sure I'll be able to take a few months of patronising posts. I'll just call you granda up until then.

;)

Pogue Mahone said:
He's 17.

Allegedly.

For all we know he could be a fat, 50 year-old, who is ruthlessly grooming Sam via PM.
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Shit, you worked that one out quick. I reckon you're really a detective pretending to be a doctor. That's right, I'm on to you 'Pogue', if that is your real name.

brophs said:
He might not be fat.......
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Exactly, thanks Brophs. I mean really in this day and age 33 stone is perfectly acceptable for a 50 year old.
 
I still think his goal against us for West Ham sums him up perfectly.

Tevez, not Brwned that is.
 
Striker10 said:
Tevez can be one of the best players in the world. He has the ability, the workrate and today he produced but he has to keep doing that. Delighted for him because he wants to play for United.

He gave an interview to mutv after, possebon had to translate. It would be easy for him to go to spain but he wants to be here. If the crowd keep encouraging him, we'll get the best out of him because we've not seen his best yet.
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Let's hope today will give him the luck to score more goals because he'll always put in a shift to create chances
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Is that what he said ?
 
Brwned said:
:lol:

feck's sake, it's not Tevez's fault for being in the right position for a pass from Anderson, or making a good run to win that penalty and then converting it.
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not to mention playing an excellent one two with him.
 
Devil_forever said:
Thats my point!! I even question tevez's penalty kick and people bought that ffs:lol: Mind you I'm still not overly convinced by him (only blackburn) but his performance tonight wasn't half bad.
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How do you rate Berbatov? Only West Brom? Only Stoke?
 
Ekeke said:
How do you rate Berbatov? Only West Brom? Only Stoke?
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I think he's class to be honest. Great vision, touch, awareness, great passing and link up, he isn't too bad at putting chances away either!
I would be all for tevez's signing had we already not had berbatov and rooney. His goals last season were important but he didn't create something out of nothing, just straight forward chances really.
 
Ekeke said:
I still think his goal against us for West Ham sums him up perfectly.

Tevez, not Brwned that is.
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:lol:

In some ways it does, yeah. The determination to get there and the ability to score it, not many players would have done the same thing and Tevez is fairly unique in his style of play currently.

People like Keane and Rooney are comparable because they have played the withdrawn forward role well and they both have the work-rate to go with him, but there's major differences in their styles obviously.

Having these three strikers at the club is brilliant to see yet there's no doubt that at least 80% of the talk about the three of them has been negative and has completely ignored the fact that it's hard to believe we have three strikers of that quality here, along with Ronaldo.
 
Devil_forever said:
I think he's class to be honest. Great vision, touch, awareness, great passing and link up, he isn't too bad at putting chances away either!
I would be all for tevez's signing had we already not had berbatov and rooney. His goals last season were important but he didn't create something out of nothing, just straight forward chances really.
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His interplay is better than anyone else's at the club imo, which is a big asset in our style of play. I've said that for ages, and the commentator's backed up that point today by saying some of the interplay today was absolutely fantastic and Tevez and Anderson were at the heart of it, unsurprisingly.

You make him sound like an average player.
 
Devil_forever said:
I think he's class to be honest. Great vision, touch, awareness and link up, he isn't too bad at putting chances away either!
I would be all for tevez's signing had we already not had berbatov and rooney. His goals last season were important but he didn't create something out of nothing, just straight forward chances really.
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He didnt really look fit though did he. He did well last season, but we saw a better, sharper, quicker player today.

So why is it "only Blackburn" for Tevez and not "only Stoke" and "only West Brom" for Berbatov?

Rooney is exempt obviously as he's scored in a lot tougher matches this season.

But Berbatov has scored 2 league goals this season, 1 against West Brom who are below Blackburn and 1 against Stoke who have conceeded just 3 less league goals than Blackburn. So all three teams are of a similar level, defensively especially.
 
Brwned said:
:(

18 in April pretty sure I'll be able to take a few months of patronising posts. I'll just call you granda up until then.
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:lol: Feck off. I'm a sprightly 27 years of age, I'll have you know. Plenty of life left in the old dog, and all that.

Now, where's me slippers, it's time for bed.
 
Ekeke said:
He didnt really look fit though did he. He did well last season, but we saw a better, sharper, quicker player today.

So why is it "only Blackburn" for Tevez and not "only Stoke" and "only West Brom" for Berbatov?

Rooney is exempt obviously as he's scored in a lot tougher matches this season.

But Berbatov has scored 2 leauge goals this season, 1 against West Brom who are below Blackburn and 1 against Stoke who have conceeded just 3 less league goals than Blackburn. So all three teams are of a similar level, defensively especially.
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But look at the guy's assists, look at how he keeps us flowing, look at his touch and he does all this with such ease and very minimum effort and often gets labelled "lazy" which is rubbish to be honest, he's efficient and SAF obviously (and rightfully) rates him and rooney above tevez.
 
SER19 said:
personally think he hasnt been treated well and his contributionlast season was being underestimated.
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I don't understand why people keep claiming this. After Berbatov came here Tevez has wasted pretty much every single opportunity to contest for a place in the starting eleven. In which way has he been treated poorly?

He had a great game today, so let's hope that was a bit of a turning point for him. I'm sure it'll help his confidence. We could use another option up front, lately it hasn't made much sense to put Tevez on when we've struggled attacking wise.
 
Stoke have kept a clean sheet against both Liverpool and Arsenal this season. Blackburn are going to get beat on Saturday.
 
Ekeke said:
So why is it "only Blackburn" for Tevez and not "only Stoke" and "only West Brom" for Berbatov? ...

But Berbatov has scored 2 league goals this season, 1 against West Brom who are below Blackburn and 1 against Stoke who have conceeded just 3 less league goals than Blackburn. So all three teams are of a similar level, defensively especially.
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Before tonight Berbatov had six goals in 14 appearances, Tevez had two in 19 (admittedly eight from the bench), and if you add their assists to the equation your argument becomes void.
 
brophs said:
:lol: Feck off. I'm a sprightly 27 years of age, I'll have you know. Plenty of life left in the old dog, and all that.

Now, where's me slippers, it's time for bed.
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That's pretty much a third of your life gone, christ, time flies eh? ;)

Can't beat a good pair of slippers though I'll give you that. A good dressing gown's even better, I've been in one since half 6 today. :D
 
Brwned said:
Heh, I knew you'd be the first one to reply to that post.

I reckon you're right, but if Scholes comes back I think we'll go back to a 4-2-3-1 because Scholes doesn't have the legs to cover the same amount of ground that Fletcher does and it lead to Carrick and Scholes playing deeper and the front four moving more freely with more space to work in and another great player to pick out their runs.
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I hope your right, but I doubt it. It seems Fergie is just wedded to the 4-4-2...
 
Laphroaig said:
Before tonight Berbatov had six goals in 14 appearances, Tevez had two in 19 (admittedly eight from the bench), and if you add their assists to the equation your argument becomes void.
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Anyone can bend stats to favour their argument...for instance...

Both Berbatov and Tevez now have 6 goals in all competitions, with Berba on 6 assists, and Tevez on 4. That would suggest that, in terms of end product, both have been much of a muchness this season.

And I don't get your bit about adding assists making the argument 'void' :confused: Because Berbatov only has 2 more then Tevez this season.
 
Laphroaig said:
Before tonight Berbatov had six goals in 14 appearances, Tevez had two in 19 (admittedly eight from the bench), and if you add their assists to the equation your argument becomes void.
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You've missed the point of it, actually. :wenger:

He's the guy saying its "only" Blackburn, when Berbatov has scored against "only" West Brom and Stoke in the league this season.

Rooney is the only one of the three strikers who have scored against decent opposition in the league this year, other than the one Tevez' strike against Liverpool. Berbatov is yet to register in a decent matchup.
 
what a time to produce you best performance in England. Immense but he needs that to be his level more often then not

His work rate is always good but today he looked a real handful
 
Ekeke said:
You've missed the point of it, actually. :wenger:

He's the guy saying its "only" Blackburn, when Berbatov has scored against "only" West Brom and Stoke in the league this season.

Rooney is the only one of the three strikers who have scored against decent opposition in the league this year, other than the one Tevez' strike against Liverpool. Berbatov is yet to register in a decent matchup.
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I suppose my point was that Berbatov has performed a lot more consistently than Tevez so far. I agree that stats doesn't really show this to the full extent, because Berbatov's contribution has been far more superior to Tevez's than the stats imply so far this season.

I love them both though, and I hope both Berbatov and Tevez will approach their true potential.
 
ooeat0meoo said:
Finishing Skills

Tevez > Rooney


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