United linked with van Gaal in the meeja

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I guess I'd call it 50:50. VdG seems to go for internal warfare, Mourinho for external.

I think the latter is better for the team personally but at anyr ate if it is Van Gaal I imagine we will at least be in for an entertaining season.
 
I expect Van Persie would play at the tip, Rooney would play just off the left and Mata or Kagawa would play as part of a 433. I have a feeling he'll like both Nani and Januzaj.

I don't think Van Gaal will make any effort to fit players in just because they have profile. He's Louis Van Gaal. He's more than used to upsetting 'stars'. He has a pretty set way he likes to play and he'll pick the XI he feels is best suited to that, be it his favoured 4-3-3 or the 4-2-3-1 he has adopted in later years. Van Persie will be safest in the new set up because he knows him and has made him Holland captain. Everyone else will be fair game.
 
Of course I was. I still believe that unless we sign a truly world-class manager, the sacking of Moyes will have been for nothing. van Gaal could potentially be a nuclear reaction in that dressing room. If the players aren't happy with the way things worked under Moyes, I don't suspect they'll enjoy van Gaal's methods much. The last thing I'd like in our club is a Robin van Persie lackey. He's already caused enough trouble this season.

By the way, your condescension is well received.

Your opinion loses most of its value when you're in favour of keeping a guy who led us to 7th in the table across 35 games of football.
 
Who would you have instead?

In any order: Klopp and Simeone would be my first choices. I'd love for us to try something with Pochettino but that's a non-runner as we cannot afford another experiment.

van Gaal is in prime position as he ticks a lot of 'Glazernomic' boxes: no compensation required, experienced, mentally tough enough to take on the mantle of a huge club and a big enough name to instill that bit of fear into the opposition again. It's just a pity he wasn't a free agent NOW and was maybe five or six years younger.
 
Can you see RvP as our next captain now, or will van Gaal go with the more easy choice in Rooney?
 
I'd love it if he came. Just to see him giving Rooney a right kick in his arse rather than climbing into it
 
He's a stunning mix between Iain Dowie and Steve Bruce, with just a hint of Donald Trump.
 
Certainly looks like it, he has an outstanding record in fairness. Should end talk of RvP fecking off somewhere in the summer I hope, Im pretty happy with Van Gaal although a bit apprehensive over the fact that he is apparently a nutjob. Though I could well end up loving him for that very fact.

It will be very different under him, that's for sure. The press conferences will be more fun too.
 
It will be fantastic to have a manager in charge who has actually won things. I am still staggered we gave the job to Moyes in the first place.
 
Your opinion loses most of its value when you're in favour of keeping a guy who led us to 7th in the table across 35 games of football.

Oh, no! A football supporter wanting our club's manager to do well, especially as I was objective enough to consider the difficulties Moyes was working under and admiring the man for giving it his all. Excuse me for having some sort of compassion, especially in a game so emotional as football.

I have no qualms about admitting that when I sung "We'll stand by David Moyes" on the Stretford End with 20,000 others, I genuinely meant it. Others may not have but I certainly did. And that wasn't anything to do with Ferguson as I've been on record here regarding my attitude towards him. I wanted Moyes to succeed (desperately, even) and I make no apologies for it. I still believe he'll make a top manager elsewhere and unfortunately for him, maybe the job was just that bit too big. No shame in that. The only embarrassing thing now is the mockery of so-called United fans and the celebratory nature of their actions yesterday and today. That leaves a bad taste in the mouth, but hey, who cares, eh? 'Gollum' is gone!

Also, your opinion, I'm sure, doesn't hold any water here at all.
 
It will be very different under him, that's for sure. The press conferences will be more fun too.
He's known to give arrogant press conferences and get angry from stupid questions, and has a proven track record in Europe. He could well get us that coveted CL trophy.
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It will be fantastic to have a manager in charge who has actually won things.

What good is it what the manager has won elsewhere? What matters is what he may win whilst he's Manchester United manager, whomever gets the role.

Villas-Boas won all around him in Portugal but came to England and (somewhat) disappointed. Employing managers based on what they've won in previous times isn't a guaranteed recipe for future success.
 
He's known to give arrogant press conferences and get angry from stupid questions, and has a proven track record in Europe. He could well get us that coveted CL trophy.
:drool:

It's just a pity that he won't get to have a go at winning it in his first season. I still can't believe that we won't be playing CL football next season.
 
United make move for Louis van Gaal
By Miguel Delaney

Manchester United have already made the first steps towards bringing Louis van Gaal in to replace sacked manager David Moyes, Old Trafford sources have told ESPN FC.

Having confirmed that Ryan Giggs will take temporary charge on Tuesday morning, United are prepared to keep an open mind about their next permanent boss and will investigate other high-profile options, but the Dutchman’s availability and evident willingness have ensured United moved to make contact.

Van Gaal, who leaves his post as Netherlands boss after the World Cup this summer, is seen as the likeliest successor, potentially as a medium-term option until United can appoint one of the other alternatives they are still considering at this point.

The 62-year-old had been expected to join Tottenham Hotspur as recently as February, and ex-Netherlands star Ruud Gullit later told the BBC he thought it was a “done deal,” but White Hart Lane sources say Van Gaal has become extremely cool on that prospect over the last two months and his position has completely changed. It is thought that Van Gaal had been informed the United post could become open to him.

That, however, will not stop last season's Premier League champions pursuing other avenues and seeing what progress could be made with potential candidates such as Juergen Klopp. Chief executive Ed Woodward is known to be a huge fan of the German, but Borussia Dortmund have told ESPN FC he will not leave and the manager himself also ruled out an exit. United may still test the waters to see how firm those sentiments are.

Whatever happens, the process will be very different from the appointment of Moyes, with Sir Alex Ferguson’s role greatly reduced after this season's debacle. United's owners, the Glazer family, will assume an increased and more direct influence in a more business-like process, following on from the active interest they took in managerial performance since United’s FA Cup defeat to Swansea City in January.

That was the first time the club’s hierarchy began to contemplate sacking Moyes, with the Glazers previously much more detached as a consequence of the idea the former Everton manager would be a long-term appointment.

According to ESPN FC sources, by Sunday’s 2-0 defeat at Goodison Park, almost everyone of significance at the club had turned against Moyes -- the playing staff, many directors and a number of sponsors. The Glazers also wanted to ensure that the inevitable sacking happened long before the World Cup, in order to allow proper time to plan.

Meanwhile, sources state Moyes is only ever likely to get compensation amounting to one or two years' worth of the six-year contract he signed last summer. One point of negotiation as regards that deal was the failure to qualify for the Champions League, or to reach any other acceptable target.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...-gaal-potential-david-moyes-successor?cc=5739

Seems to be moving ahead then. Miguel Delaney is pretty reliable and seems to have sources at the club.
 
I would only like van gaal if he brings long frank de boer long with him, as some rumors has suggested. De boer could do the transfer dealings on his behalf while he's involved in the World Cup. We really need to strengthen this summer.
 
Certainly looks like it, he has an outstanding record in fairness. Should end talk of RvP fecking off somewhere in the summer I hope, Im pretty happy with Van Gaal although a bit apprehensive over the fact that he is apparently a nutjob. Though I could well end up loving him for that very fact.

agree.

we'll play some good football I'm sure.
 
What good is it what the manager has won elsewhere? What matters is what he may win whilst he's Manchester United manager, whomever gets the role.

Villas-Boas won all around him in Portugal but came to England and (somewhat) disappointed. Employing managers based on what they've won in previous times isn't a guaranteed recipe for future success.
Because it proves they have the ability to be successful. A proven track record. I would have thought that was obvious.
 
He will do wonders for some of the youngsters if he does come. He loves moulding players and the likes of Jones, Janujaz, Rafael and Welbeck would improve massively under his coaching, I understand peoples skeptism but if we want someone to stay a few years and put a modern philosophy in place then there are few better. The hands off approach of our owners will suit him too.
 
we'll play some good football I'm sure.

That ones up for debate. Bayern were not happy with their style of play under him, which went a long way towards explaining his dismissal there.

Looking back on his reign now when comparing it to the richly aesthetic football Bayern have played in the interim makes it look even worse, if truth be told.
 
What good is it what the manager has won elsewhere? What matters is what he may win whilst he's Manchester United manager, whomever gets the role.

Villas-Boas won all around him in Portugal but came to England and (somewhat) disappointed. Employing managers based on what they've won in previous times isn't a guaranteed recipe for future success.

Who do you want to replace Moyes? Sure winning trophies at other clubs doesn't guarantee anything but surely you can admit that a man with a good CV is more likely to be successful than a man who won nothing or very little?
 
Something tells me we're going to be going after dutch players this window! :lol:

Does that really excite you though? I mean the only dutch players I'd get giddy about signing are Strootman and Robben - one's injured and the other has no reason to leave his club for ours. We already have their best player whereas the remainder of their national squad is the most underwhelming group of dutch players I've seen for a long time.
 
Because it proves they have the ability to be successful. A proven track record. I would have thought that was obvious.

Yes, but as I countenanced afterward, it's not a guarantee of success.

If van Gaal gets the gig here, I couldn't give two fúcks what he achieved back in the '90s or thereafter, what'll matter to me is how successful he makes us.
 
That ones up for debate. Bayern were not happy with their style of play under him, which went a long way towards explaining his dismissal there.

Looking back on his reign now when comparing it to the richly aesthetic football Bayern have played in the interim makes it look even worse, if truth be told.

They weren't happy because they were too focused on slow possesion based build up, he wasn't playing negative football, never ever has.
 
Yes, but as I countenanced afterward, it's not a guarantee of success.

If van Gaal gets the gig here, I couldn't give two fúcks what he achieved back in the '90s or thereafter, what'll matter to me is how successful he makes us.

Nothing is a guarantee of success. But surely hiring someone with a strong CV improves your odds a bit.
 
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