United linked with van Gaal in the meeja

[Varun]

Well I'd argue Pep has taken them backwards and the facts point to that so I would suggest if any man gets you a treble...keep hold of him. Its coming to something now where at several of these clubs you get the impression CL success or failure can get you fired. fergie wouldnt last too long with his 2 wins at some of these clubs!

Taken them backwards? Naah, I dont agree with that. its obvious that he's trying something different and ofcourse it'l take time. Heckneyes wouldnt have delivered a treble again this season. People are just overreacting because of the defeat yesterday.

If they give in to the players again, they will end up with big trouble. The players just want someone who will be easy on them.

Again? Moyes was them giving in to Sir Alex which was a sensible thing to do. This would be ridiculous though. You just know there would be plenty that dont want to step out of their comfort zones with someone like Van Gaal taking over.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Said this last summer.

If we stuck the Glazers in a room with no outside influence to decide Fergie's successor even they would have settled on the best option available.

Exactly, they would look who has the best winning record and is available. Simple as.

 

[Adebesi]

I think SAF still wants to have some control at the club, Giggs would be asking his advice all the time. LVG wouldn't.

Do you think so? I really hope you are wrong about that. I thought he was off to Harvard, I think he will be an increasingly distant figure to be honest.

 

[Adebesi]

Again? Moyes was them giving in to Sir Alex which was a sensible thing to do. This would be ridiculous though. You just know there would be plenty that dont want to step out of their comfort zones with someone like Van Gaal taking over.

I guess he means giving into the players by sacking Moyes? Though that would be a huge simplification of what happened, if not outright incorrect. The Glazers were more interested in appeasing the sponsors than the players.

 

[charleysurf]

Do you think so? I really hope you are wrong about that. I thought he was off to Harvard, I think he will be an increasingly distant figure to be honest.

A bit pathetic that people on here want Fergie out of the picture at United so much.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Do you think so? I really hope you are wrong about that. I thought he was off to Harvard, I think he will be an increasingly distant figure to be honest.

Hopefully he is and because of that is not having a massive say in the choice of a new manager. I would hate them to be taking his advice again and then swanning off to the USA well out of the way if it all goes wrong again.

 

[PlayerOne]

Bored now. Announce it already

A Dutch journalist was on talksport yesterday saying we won't announce anything until next week at least because LVG will do some work with the national team and he doesn't want to be distracted. We might have to wait some more.

 

[Adebesi]

A bit pathetic that people on here want Fergie out of the picture at United so much.

Im not saying I want him out of the picture, Im saying I think he will be out of the picture. Though I do think a former manager hanging around casts a long shadow that can be inhibiting for a new manager. Again, its the old Busby comparison which everyone is well aware of.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

A bit pathetic that people on here want Fergie out of the picture at United so much.

We don't want him gone if he isn't trying to still run the club. If he really is taking a backseat, that is fine. This is the problem when you have had a really successful manager, if that is a problem, with a board of directors who know sod all about football. They end up relying on the advice of a couple of people who are human and can make wrong decisions like the rest of us.

 

[Varun]

I guess he means giving into the players by sacking Moyes? Though that would be a huge simplification of what happened, if not outright incorrect. The Glazers were more interested in appeasing the sponsors than the players.

DT's a "She" and a hot one at that, just letting you know

 

[RedorDead21]

The same character traits that put them off Maureen are all present with Van Gaal. I'll still be surprised if they go with him.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Im not saying I want him out of the picture, Im saying I think he will be out of the picture. Though I do think a former manager hanging around casts a long shadow that can be inhibiting for a new manager. Again, its the old Busby comparison which everyone is well aware of.

The only difference is that he hasn't got an office at the ground/training ground.

 

[LonelyFire]

A Dutch journalist was on talksport yesterday saying we won't announce anything until next week at least because LVG will do some work with the national team and he doesn't want to be distracted. We might have to wait some more.

I could be wrong but i think the message was that it HAS to be announced prior to next Wednesday as by that point he will be on international duty and doesnt want any distractions.

 

[Adebesi]

DT's a "She" and a hot one at that, just letting you know

I didnt know that. Apologies @DomesticTadpole.

 

[pocco]

Pep would be no good for us in my opinion. His style just wouldn't work here currently and he'd need a complete revamp of the squad to implement his style.

Not only that but the guy seems to struggle when the going gets tough, which it undoubtedly would be here from the get go. He said he couldn't motivate the Barca players anymore, so how would he fare with our lot? I just think Pep is all wrong for United.

 

[Adebesi]

I could be wrong but i think the message was that it HAS to be announced prior to next Wednesday as by that point he will be on international duty and doesnt want any distractions.

Im hoping that a lot of negotiation has already happened, by that point if he is signed up he will have given a list of targets to Woodward who can then make his moves before the WC.

 

[Varun]

The sooner we appoint him, the easier it will be for all concerned really. You just know the clamor to appoint Giggsy will increase as we go on specially if we beat Sunderland on Saturday.

 

[MDFC Manager]

I wonder if we have approached Heynckes.

Well I don't think he'd have entertained it at all. Didn't he come out of retirement for a short term appointment for Bayern?

 

[Adebesi]

No I dont either to be honest, was just thinking out loud, so to speak.

 

[Plugsy]

I don't see him clashing with anyone at the club, players aside. I think he'll probably enjoy the hands-off autonomy he'd get here. That and getting pissed with Sir Alex after every home game.

 

[Kill 'em all]

The same character traits that put them off Maureen are all present with Van Gaal. I'll still be surprised if they go with him.

van Gaal was chosen as Sir Alex's successor by the man himself when he first announced his retirement during 2002 but then decided to stay and the deal of course fell through.

 

[PSingh]

That is actually the right thing to do for any manager going to a new club. They should do it for at least one season before they bring in new staff of their own.

Looks like if it's going to be Van Gaal he will be asked to work with the class of 92. Not sure how keen he will be on that, but exciting times lie ahead!

 

[red_devil83]

Steve will no doubt enjoy the opportunity to roll out his famous Dutch accent again when dealing with Van Gaal.

Steve 'How you say?' Mclaren. That's got to be the most embarrassing thing, well, ever. What a muppet.

 

[Crono]

He's not going to be here this long anyway.

He's 62 and if he doesn't get United job will be retiring.

He will come in and provided it's not a disaster will pick the club back up and put the foundations of younger players and the academy system back in place and then after 2-3 seasons will probably retire to make way for the proper long term manager whoever that may be.

I get the feeling people are actually expecting another Matt Busby or Alex Ferguson to emerge, just around the corner. How many Busbys or Fergies have emerged anywhere in the world in the last 30 years?

The maddest thing of all is a lot of people have actually convinced themselves that Ryan fu*king Giggs is that man. Absolutely baffling.

 

[LonelyFire]

Im hoping that a lot of negotiation has already happened, by that point if he is signed up he will have given a list of targets to Woodward who can then make his moves before the WC.

I don't think there is any doubt that players/targets have already been spoken about.

 

[Adebesi]

I don't think there is any doubt that players/targets have already been spoken about.

Right. In which case it isn't quite the massive obstacle being made out.

 

[DWelbz19]

So, do the Dutch FA want this wrapped up by next week?

 

[Revan]

nope he was pushed

It was more complex than that. They hired Pep much earler than they won the treble and no-one was expecting Bayern to be that good last year. If they knew how good Bayern will become under Heynckes, they wouldn't have approach Pep.

 

[Crackers]

So, do the Dutch FA want this wrapped up by next week?

And most of the fans.

 

[Cheesy]

I get the feeling people are actually expecting another Matt Busby or Alex Ferguson to emerge, just around the corner. How many Busbys or Fergies have emerged anywhere in the world in the last 30 years?

The maddest thing of all is a lot of people have actually convinced themselves that Ryan fu*king Giggs is that man. Absolutely baffling.

True, the argument of Van Gaal's age should only matter if he'd only be here for one season. Him being around for a few years wouldn't be a problem. The reality is that this is how most top clubs tend to work nowadays, and the chances of us finding a manager who remains for decades are small. If we can find one, great, but it's quite unlikely to be honest.

 

[DWelbz19]

And most of the fans.

Definitely.

 

[Kill 'em all]

van Gaal's world cup preparation starts next Wednesday, if we don't sign him by then I don't think we will. He isn't the type of man to be distracted.

He's not going to be here this long anyway.

He's 62 and if he doesn't get United job will be retiring.

He will come in and provided it's not a disaster will pick the club back up and put the foundations of younger players and the academy system back in place and then after 2-3 seasons will probably retire to make way for the proper long term manager whoever that may be.

Yes, he's 62 and a very healthy man. He could end up staying here for 6 or more season if he's successful. Isn't that long term?

 

[NinjaZombie]

van Gaal was chosen as Sir Alex's successor by the man himself when he first announced his retirement during 2002 but then decided to stay and the deal of course fell through.

Is this true? First time I've heard of it.

Better than Sven bloody Goran Erikson actually, who the United board reportedly had to disappoint when Fergie changed his mind, thank goodness.

 

[LonelyFire]

Right. In which case it isn't quite the massive obstacle being made out.

Spot on.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Is this still looking likely? Doesn't seem as certain as it was made out to be awhile back. World Cup preparations will start soon as well.

 

[pocco]

I think it's looking likely now that United have other ideas and that van Gaal is a bit of a fall back option.

 

[Brophs]

I think it's looking likely now that United have other ideas and that van Gaal is a bit of a fall back option.

Do you think? It looks to me like he's the choice and we're probably just trying to do a deal at a time that suits both.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

I think it's looking likely now that United have other ideas and that van Gaal is a bit of a fall back option.

I honestly don't know what is going on anymore.

I don't trust Woody. I don't really want Van Gaal. I think it's madness to hire Giggsy.

Bring back Moyesie, I says. Tell him it was all a bit of a misunderstanding.

 

[Mister Ed]

I honestly don't know what is going on anymore.

I don't trust Woody. I don't really want Van Gaal. I think it's madness to hire Giggsy.

Bring back Moyesie, I says. Tell him it was all a bit of a misunderstanding.

If it boils down to Giggs, I never thought I would have said this, but than I would actually rather have Moyes.

I always said, it can't get worse, but if we hire Giggs it can and it will.

 

[Kill 'em all]

Is this true? First time I've heard of it.

Better than Sven bloody Goran Erikson actually, who the United board reportedly had to disappoint when Fergie changed his mind, thank goodness.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/new...nager-of-Manchester-United-article185395.html

That took some digging but I finally found it!

Louis van Gaal has revealed that he agreed to succeed Sir Alex Ferguson as Manchester United.

The only problem was that in 2002 Fergie staged a spectacular U-turn on his retirement plans and the Dutch coach’s ambition to become United boss was wrecked.

Van Gaal, now Bayern Munich boss, reveals his tie-up with United in the autobiography he launched last week.

He said: “It was before the World Cup of 2002. I was in contact with Manchester United through Peter Kenyon [then chief executive, above].


“It was said to me that Alex Ferguson was going to retire.

“The moment he’d go, I’d succeed him. But in the end Ferguson didn’t want to quit!’’ Van Gaal, who would have loved the United job, had led Ajax to two Champions League Finals and had also been boss of the Holland national side.

This was the time when United also courted Sven Goran Eriksson, who had led England to the World Cup finals that summer.

Van Gaal had also been the Barcelona coach, where he succeeded Sir Bobby Robson in controversial style.

It was back in 1997 when the ambitious Dutch coach arrived at the Nou Camp and Robson was shunted upstairs.

Van Gaal said: “The Barca president said Robson was the coach and I’d have a learning year with the youth team.

“But all of a sudden the president said, ‘Forget what we agreed, you are going to be the senior coach’.

“I honestly did not like it. But they just moved Robson upstairs. I thought it was awful towards Robson.

“The man had won three major trophies that season – the Cup-Winners’ Cup, the Spanish Cup and the Super Cup.

“But Barca said the football was poor. The Catalan people were harsh to Robson. What could he have done more?

“There was this game where he had led the team to a 7-1 victory. The crowd was not happy, it should have been 10-1. Unbelievable.’

This interview was back in 2009.