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I guess focusing on gender is easier for you than their fecking appalling views.Louise Mensch was backing Leadsom on Bill Maher last week, if that bitch thinks it a good idea then it cant be. Effeminate Pob and Maggie Thatcher Mini me arent good choices either. There should have been a call for another election after the brexit feck up.
America elected a black man before a woman whats your point? Oh look shiny object to distract us from important issues.
It is almost as if their recently discovered interest in democracy ended the second the polls closed on Brexit.
Have they engineered this knowing Leadsom will pose no threat to May? It's the only reason I can see her being in the final two
Who said it wasnt democracy? It shouldnt have been offered as a referendum in the first place is my point. Old people voting scared and fecking up the future of the younger generations is always something that can happen in democracy and thats exactly what happened.
Im just glad Gove didn't get it.
is it over?
What?
Onto ignore you go.
Don't think so, she's worryingly similar to what a lot of Tory activists will be like. I'm hoping that it being an election to choose a PM rather than just a leader will focus their minds a little.
No. Please. Come back.
Bit precious.
Don't confuse me like that!Never mind I brainfarted there, carry on
You think so? I haven't seen any data on that.
I think some of Leadsom's Christian views will resonate with the base. There's a lot of blue-rinse church-goers there. I'm a member and I am thoroughly unexcited with the prospect of either. Then again, I am in the small minority of people that would have wanted to vote for Gove.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...rified-andrea-leadsom-becoming-prime-minister
Some of those will be quite appealing to the membership.....
Some of those will be quite appealing to the membership.....
Yeah but she's a woman. Focus on the being a woman bit, her views aren't important.
There's a piece in The Telegraph today rubbishing claims that Leadsom was some bigshot in the City before becoming an MP (which has been the main counterargument when her lack of experience in frontline politics is cited). She seems like the David Moyes option (and wasn't he a God botherer too?).
It has to be May who, despite the recent protest vote referendum, better reflects what I still believe is the real position of a majority of the country towards the EU - scepticism and no real enthusiasm but an overall feeling that the benefits outweigh the negatives.
It has to be May who, despite the recent protest vote referendum, better reflects what I still believe is the real position of a majority of the country towards the EU - scepticism and no real enthusiasm but an overall feeling that the benefits outweigh the negatives.
The referendum was a choice. The essence of a choice is that people can choose either option. They chose Brexit. There was no feck up.
Councillors so not necessarily reflective of the membership as a whole, but very similar result to the YouGov poll of the membership at large a few days back.
Opinions @Nick 0208 Ldn ? I know you aren't a member but as someone that voted to leave and have expressed a dislike of May, do you think Leadsom is a better alternative for Prime Minister?
As much as I hate him, I'd have felt much more comfortable with a choice of Gove vs May.
I mean, its still like choosing which leg to cut off, but the possibility of Leadsom is horrifying.
Have a feeling she'll get it too with the 'WE WANT OUR BREXITTT NAO AND KICK OUT ALL DEM FOREIGNERS' mob voting her in.
I mean, its still like choosing which leg to cut off, but the possibility of Leadsom is horrifying.
Have a feeling she'll get it too with the 'WE WANT OUR BREXITTT NAO AND KICK OUT ALL DEM FOREIGNERS' mob voting her in.
The referendum happening wasnt a choice. Cameron calling for one was the feck up. Please read.
What a fecked up situation. Choosing between May and Leadsom.
What's the form line of previous Conservative membership votes?
(that's what I'd be looking at, if it wasn't less like hard work just to ask on a footy forum)
(that's what I'd be looking at, if it wasn't less like hard work just to ask on a footy forum)
There's a good chance that Leadsom may win this thing right? With all the anti incumbency going on and her being a stronger Leave candidate? If only Labour also had to pick a leader voted by their members
Their problem is that they do.
Leadsom's one of those types who opposes gay marriage by arguing for civil partnerships instead. Also a fox hunting advocate. Charming person, eh.
Either people are ready to die for Corbyn or they are ready to lynch him at the ready
She is a charming person, except for foxes. Which is why he came nowhere I suppose.
Iain Duncan Smith beat Kenneth Clarke in 2001
Cameron beat David Davis in 2005
The more 'right wing' candidate in each case, altho Cameron can be regarded as very centrist in Con Party terms.
Would presume the membership have drifted more to the right since then, so Leadsom winning seems very possible
MPs can throw the Leader out apparently, so going forward, anything could happen, an HoC MP vote on invoking Article 50 is going to be tricky to win as well.
Cameron beat David Davis in 2005
The more 'right wing' candidate in each case, altho Cameron can be regarded as very centrist in Con Party terms.
Would presume the membership have drifted more to the right since then, so Leadsom winning seems very possible
MPs can throw the Leader out apparently, so going forward, anything could happen, an HoC MP vote on invoking Article 50 is going to be tricky to win as well.
allegedly seen on a tube train (from Twitter), reflects what Leadsom stands for (possibly), looks great innit?
edit - original source is Ben Hart @Ben_Hart
edit - original source is Ben Hart @Ben_Hart
Ghastly stuff. "Wage war on political correctness"? Here we go.
Never heard of Leadsom until a few weeks ago. What's she like? Heard plenty about May and it's not been positive.
A part of me is now thinking I would not have minded Osbourne.
A part of me is now thinking I would not have minded Osbourne.
No, please, no....Anyone, absolutely anyone but Osborne.
I don't think waging war on political correctness is such a bad idea to be honest. It has poisoned discourse and intelligent debate.
How do we think Boris wouldve done against May? Would he have got to the last two?
"It's gone mad, Stew."
Would definitely be in the final two, difficult to see how the membership would've voted (a poll before he withdrew showed May with a healthy lead over him). Probably would've ended up very close.
Bit hard to wage war on a loosely defined and ever moving concept.
What are they going to do? Produce a list of all the slightly racist/homophobic slurs and declare them fair game?
What they actually mean is use the term political correctness over and over to rally the right.