Who would you have as our new manager

Its impossible to woo Klopp, there is no reason for him to quit Dortmund and move over to England,
Big clubs take his players and this year Dortmund aren't doing that good in the league. Next season if good offer comes he can move clubs.
 
They are parasitic blood-sucking fecking cnuts who will have taken a full £1 billion out of the club in a few years. The significant increases in revenue which they can claim any credit for have not resulted in any extra benefit to the club in terms of transfer spending (they essentially brag about this to investors) or in terms of anything relevant to supporters like ticket price/ACS controls. It, along with our very significant increase in TV revenue which they had nothing much to do with, is being used to service and pay down their mammoth debt.

Why does Abramovich feel he has the right to interfere with great managers? He did spend £2 billion on Chelsea in 10 years. Just that slight bit of difference that makes the sense of entitlement understandable.

The Glazers are also purely involved with United for the profit and have no interest in the sport whatsoever. Why would they want to interfere with a manager steadying their heavily debt-loaded ship? It would also only attract a lot of unwanted media and supporter attention to their blood-sucking activities.
They have got off the club around 500m so far (as far as I know). Don't have any idea where the 1b comes from.

Does Abramovich has really spend 2b on ten years? Nope. Chelsea's average losses are far lower than 200m for year.

How the increase on revenue doesn't result in extra-benefit for the club? Does Mata(s) grown up on the tree or we have to pay for them top dollars? 80m in the last 12 months net spend, this is around sugar dady levels. 170m in the last 5 window combines. A lof ot money.

Wages? Sugar dady clubs (City and Chelsea spend more than us), Paris probably (especially if the new tax in France will get implemented) but you can't compete with them. Barca and Real spend more too but they have around 100m more revenue than us. I am not sure about Bayern. But that's it. Again very competitive.
 
Big clubs take his players and this year Dortmund aren't doing that good in the league. Next season if good offer comes he can move clubs.
Thats his challenge isnt it? I dont expect him to shy away from Dortmund just because Bayern are taking his top players. I think he will strive on and be there for a few more years at least. He is the best thing that has happened to them in a while. He got playing the right way and won two championships in a row.
 
He's been quality this season. And his teams entertain. Not sure whether he's right for us but he's got some great qualities based on what we've seen this season.

I did love the way his entertaining Wigan were relegated because he has no idea how to build a defense. The jerk off on this site over a man who's current success us due to the defense another manager built is laughable. To suggest he could be the coach of United because he has gotten almost identical results at Everton as Moyes not a year after relegating a team is the height of hypocrisy.
 
For a club as big as United, the man should be someone who has won trophies and has experience with European football. That was the criteria laid down by the club before Fergie retired and the criteria they tossed out of the window when they hired Moyes.
 
Carlos Queiroz' contract with Iran is up after the World Cup. Perhaps he will come back as assistant and right the ship. Something has to be done.
 
Carlos Queiroz' contract with Iran is up after the World Cup. Perhaps he will come back as assistant and right the ship. Something has to be done.
Do you honestly think Moyes will let go of Round? He was the idiot who didnt want people who knew how the club was run. What makes you think he is going to want Queiroz back?
 
You're all dreaming if you think he is going to bring in anyone experienced as an assistant to help sort things out.

He's a hands on manager, who is trying to assert his authority on the club. Do you think it would really help his position of a top coach came in and started to form relationships with the players, coaching and motivating them?

As much as anything I think what the club has lost this season is the squads ability to manage itself. Senior players have been marginalised and the ones that should be stepping up into their roles aren't there yet and probably feel like it's not their position to while the other senior players are around. It's why moving a few of them on could really help freshen things up.
 
Tedious sarcasm aside, i would outperform Moyes and players would immediately know on what terms they are with me.
First things i will do is fire DJ Neville and co if they haven't resigned yet, show Kagawa my believe in him and play him in every game, have a good talk and laugh with the senior top players I rate and need for the rest of the season, pretend to have some level of social interaction with the dross I will get rid of as soon as the season is over (examples: cleverly, welbeck, carrick), blank Valencia and Young with a certain amount of ruthlesness in a desperate but hopeful try to see if that can fire them up for the remaining 4 months after which I will lightening-sell them during the summer and play 4-5-1 with tactical craft and slyness.

I know more about football than a nilbilly like Moyes but such is life.

EDIT: my realistic pick based on the current situation in the footballworld is Simeone or Klopp. Both are available if we swoop in.
 
EDIT: my realistic pick based on the current situation in the footballworld is Simeone or Klopp. Both are available if we swoop in.
Swoop in and pay millions? For what? After we have to millions to the fecker in charge if we sack him?
 
Do you honestly think Moyes will let go of Round? He was the idiot who didnt want people who knew how the club was run. What makes you think he is going to want Queiroz back?

Desperation?
 
Guys there's no chance klopp is going anywhere, he's a great manager but he's building a legacy at Dortmund. He might leave 4-5 years from now, but I doubt it will be to united if we still play the same shite football. We're pretty much the anti dortmund at the moment with how we play and go against most things that klopp wants his teams to do.
 
Tedious sarcasm aside, i would outperform Moyes and players would immediately know on what terms they are with me.
First things i will do is fire DJ Neville and co if they haven't resigned yet, show Kagawa my believe in him and play him in every game, have a good talk and laugh with the senior top players I rate and need for the rest of the season, pretend to have some level of social interaction with the dross I will get rid of as soon as the season is over (examples: cleverly, welbeck, carrick), blank Valencia and Young with a certain amount of ruthlesness in a desperate but hopeful try to see if that can fire them up for the remaining 4 months after which I will lightening-sell them during the summer and play 4-5-1 with tactical craft and slyness.

I know more about football than a nilbilly like Moyes but such is life.

EDIT: my realistic pick based on the current situation in the footballworld is Simeone or Klopp. Both are available if we swoop in.
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For a club as big as United, the man should be someone who has won trophies and has experience with European football. That was the criteria laid down by the club before Fergie retired and the criteria they tossed out of the window when they hired Moyes.
The difference in the standards United had for appointing a new manager in 1986 to 2013 is simply unbelievable. Then, United appointed one of the most promising managers in world football with a quite staggering achievement under his belt, to manage a club whose prestige more or less relied on the achievements of 18 years and more prior.

Now.. well.. :wenger:
 
Carlos Queiroz' contract with Iran is up after the World Cup. Perhaps he will come back as assistant and right the ship. Something has to be done.

Why the hell would Querioz come back to assist Moyes?

Querioz will feel he is most likely better than Moyes.
 
If I was a director at the club, I'd be looking to bring in the world class players they're talking of, helping him build a quality squad then see what he can do with it.

If he can't do the business with quality players then he's not the man for the job and you're not in a desperate position because you have a squad another top manager can work with.

It's if he starts looking to bring in players that aren't of the quality expected then we've got a problem.
 
If I was a director at the club, I'd be looking to bring in the world class players they're talking of, helping him build a quality squad then see what he can do with it.

If he can't do the business with quality players then he's not the man for the job and you're not in a desperate position because you have a squad another top manager can work with.

It's if he starts looking to bring in players that aren't of the quality expected then we've got a problem.
Umm he isn't doing the business with quality players.
 
I did love the way his entertaining Wigan were relegated because he has no idea how to build a defense. The jerk off on this site over a man who's current success us due to the defense another manager built is laughable. To suggest he could be the coach of United because he has gotten almost identical results at Everton as Moyes not a year after relegating a team is the height of hypocrisy.

Martinez's success this season is due to "the defence another man built." That is ridiculous. His success is due to him being a positive, pro-active manager who's new players have responded to his intelligence, personality and exciting ideas. Obviously him bringing in good players like McCarthy, Barry, Lukaku, McGeady etc. has nothing to do with it either.

Yes Wigan got relegated but quite frankly it's a miracle he kept them in the league for so long with their budget. To keep them in it whilst also playing good football and encouraging youth development is testament to his ambitions. Not to mention they won the FA Cup, producing one of the biggest upsets in the competitions history in the process.

Luckily football men like Dave Whelan and Bill Kenwright understand how good someone like Martinez is, because they aren't small minded enough to think relegation means he is a shit manager who "can't build a defence."
 
Umm he isn't doing the business with quality players.

Yeah that quality midfield is really letting him down.


Let him finish his team before we judge him. If he's still doing badly, sack him.
 
So far we've had Ryan Giggs,Ole and Gary Neville's name thrown into the hat to replace our manager 6 months in :rolleyes: but yea the scousers resurrecting Daglish was hilarious wasn't it, I mean at least KK had experience in managing a football club in the premier league. One thing that Moyes tenure slams home is that all football fans are essentially the same but with hugely distorted views of their respective clubs and fanbase.
RAWK is upon us.
 
I did love the way his entertaining Wigan were relegated because he has no idea how to build a defense. The jerk off on this site over a man who's current success us due to the defense another manager built is laughable. To suggest he could be the coach of United because he has gotten almost identical results at Everton as Moyes not a year after relegating a team is the height of hypocrisy.
Tell me, how did Martinez manage to win the fa cup with Wigan? I'm sure all Everton fans would love to sacrifice a few of their 6th or 7th league finishes for 15th placed finishes if it came with a trophy. In the end, what is the thing the fans will remember? A manager keeping them in the premier league for yet another season or winning the fa cup? It's no contest.
 
So far we've had Ryan Giggs,Ole and Gary Neville's name thrown into the hat to replace our manager 6 months in :rolleyes: but yea the scousers resurrecting Daglish was hilarious wasn't it, I mean at least KK had experience in managing a football club in the premier league. One thing that Moyes tenure slams home is that all football fans are essentially the same but with hugely distorted views of their respective clubs and fanbase.
RAWK is upon us.

They think one of those three will magically turn into Pep. :lol:
 
I think you are very defensive here. Keep calm and you will see a bigger picture here.

When you see how Zaha (our own player on loan to Cardiff) made a difference in changing the game for Cardiff v Norwich and they went on to win it, you can't help but wonder, how on earth we couldn't use players to change the game when we were behind? My conclusion? The manager makes a difference.

These days, you don't even know if we can win a game against Norwich! Why? Because Moyes has been a record breaker since he took charge:

1. first league loss to Stoke since 1984
2. 1st home loss to Swansea EVER
3. 1st home loss to Everton since 1992
4. 1st home loss to Newcastle since 1972
5. 1st home loss to West Brom since 1978
6. 3 defeats successively for the 1st time since 2001
7. 7th position in Feb since...(filling in the blank)
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If Ole and the like comes in and break the above records like Moyes did, then I will agree with you maybe he (Ole) needs to earn it the way you want before he's considered. Question is: Really? Answer? I don't think so. Ole would have shared his experience as a top player and united legend status to convince his players that they, also can do it like Ole did, score late winners and all that. The belief and confidence players have (on top of what qualities they already have) are as important if not more important

I'm not being defensive. Simply stating an obvious fact that the job must be earnt. Tell me, would you be in favor of say Seedorf (prior to him joining Milan) taking over from Moyes?
 
I'd be perfect. The first thing I would do is hire a couple of former UFC champions, and put a poll on the caf for worst performer in each game, with the winner getting a beating off the UFC guys. Then come the summer evra Ferdinand buttner young nani Valencia giggs cleverley all get the boot and rooneys new contract includes a play like shit and I feck your mrs clause. Success beckons
 
Yeah that quality midfield is really letting him down.


Let him finish his team before we judge him. If he's still doing badly, sack him.
Oh he's finishing the team alright.

Let's judge him on an going basis. I mean, we all are anyway.
 
Yeah that quality midfield is really letting him down.


Let him finish his team before we judge him. If he's still doing badly, sack him.

The problem is that he's shown nothing to indicate so far that he deserves time to build his team, or that he's capable of building an impressive one. His attempt to solve our midfield problems involved wasting £27m on someone who just clearly isn't right for the club and who isn't good enough in central midfield.

If we don't have someone who can get this group of players into the top 4, then buying world class players to significantly improve us is going to become a lot more challenging. Not impossible of course, but a lot more difficult than it currently is.
 
The difference in the standards United had for appointing a new manager in 1986 to 2013 is simply unbelievable. Then, United appointed one of the most promising managers in world football with a quite staggering achievement under his belt, to manage a club whose prestige more or less relied on the achievements of 18 years and more prior.

Now.. well.. :wenger:

Fergie was the man of the hour in 1986. At the time, I felt sorry for Atkinson who I actually liked as our manager. A lot of United fans then were so frustrated at watching Liverpool winning everything and rubbing our noses in it. Not only that but the rise of Everton came about at the same time and Merseyside ruled the roost. I really can't remember any dramatic changes on the pitch during Fergie's early years. Sparky came back and that was a plus. I suppose it was the CWC final against Barca that really convinced a lot of us that something great was happening but for me, it was the emergence of Ryan Giggs. First time I saw him it was like watching the United of old. After we slipped up and Leeds won the league, talk was that we'd win it the next year and we did.
 
Pochettino doesn't speak English but that seems to be a plus. Players are probably inspired to pass the ball just by listening to spanish.
 
Not really achieved anything. His 'achievements' this season don't count as they haven't actually won anything yet. Their squad is far too small to keep it going on all fronts. Something has to give. Also flavour of the month.

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Simeone won the UEFA Europa League, UEFA Super cup, the Copa Del Rey and 2 Argentinian Premier Leagues. What had Moyes won exactly? Ah yeah, the Charity Shield
 
Seriously, do you read what are you writing before you post it?

Klopp flower of the month? Kill me now.

Ole having a poor start? Seriously?

Simeone not having achieved anything? Are you for real, or just an extreme version of Pimpy from the other side of the argument?

Simeone has won nothing as opposed to our Moyesy who can't stop winning trophies at Everton and Manchester United
 
He isn't going anywhere, but if he did then let's just get someone in until the summer, then try again. feck it, even Micky Phelan could stabilise the ship.
A few people mention Laudrup - I personally don't think that would be a bad shout. His team lack quality but move the ball around wonderfully. With a quality squad (like ours, believe it or not), I think he'd be bang on.