Pep didn't manage to get him to move his arse 5km from his practice in downtown to the Bayern Training grounds. Good luck trying to move him to your rainy Island
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Pep didn't manage to get him to move his arse 5km from his practice in downtown to the Bayern Training grounds. Good luck trying to move him to your rainy Island
Do you think Joel and Avram are ever going to give Sir Bobby a deciding vote after the train wreck that was Moyes? Back on topic, it was disrespectful and childish of Guardiola to do that.
If that was LVG everyone would be saying 'there he goes, old Louis falling out with everyone again after a good start, as usual'.
Not good from Guardiola, looks like a man under pressure. Could be the beginning of the end for him at Bayern.
Not good from Guardiola, looks like a man under pressure. Could be the beginning of the end for him at Bayern.
we should really wave our financial willy and bring them all in. put hidden cameras everywhere and have a ppv channel broadcasting everything at a tenner a month. 4 managers, one office, one team, what could go wrong?
Can see him leaving Bayern and taking over at City in the summer now.
Now, that's a meltdown if I ever saw one. Holy shit!
Looks like the actions of a man under pressure. I hope he doesn't get the sack.....yet. Bad news for the premier league if he's out of a job and City are looking for a manager.
Come on, now. Every doctor thinks that those who use homeopathy are charlatans.
What Pep did wasn't right. But we don't know what was going behind the scenes, so I can't judge more Pep than being a bit childish. If this doctor gave honey to injured players and said to Pep that they're fit to play, and this caused the injury crisis, then Pep has every right to be nervous.
Can't believe I missed this. That's incredibly unprofessional and disrespectful from Guardiola.
Pep didn't manage to get him to move his arse 5km from his practice in downtown to the Bayern Training grounds. Good luck trying to move him to your rainy Island
Average yearly rainfall Munich = 968mm
Average yearly rainfall Manchester = 828mm
That's certainly not what happened. Where did that theory come from?
. Ffs, Müller-Wohlfahrt has been in charge at Bayern for almost 40 years and for the German nationalteam for almost 20 years. He successfully treated serious injuries for athletes from all over the world, including for example Kobe Bryant and Usain Bolt. He's sometimes too careful in regards to his players and some of the tension between him and Guardiola was built on him not allowing players to be rushed back to play. He's a bit of an odd character and some of his methods might be dubious or even a bit shady, but he's not some weird alternative doctor who doesn't use regular medicine, technologies, techniques at all.I guess, he just adds a bit of mumbo-jumbo because many superstar athletes are a bit supersticious and probably love that he does something unique around the important foundamental medical stuff. It's why he became a bit of a star himself and he clearly enjoys that image. It doesn't mean he's delusional and treats serious injuries solely with honey.
Sounds like he was a bit of an institution at bayern. Guardiola should have been more careful.That's certainly not what happened. Where did that theory come from?
Not bad for a 72 year old. Looks like he may have some effective anti-ageing methods also.
To be fair, Giggs is hardly the great role model choice either is he?
To be fair, our injury crisis in the last 2 years is beyond crazy, it's in my opinion a lot worse than anything United suffered in the past 5 years. Our insane squad depth saved us for a while, but I'm not surprised that the whole club is in turmoil. It's causing so much damage and I fully understand that Pep is incredibly frustrated. It doesn't excuse his behaviour of course, like I said before, he deserved to be punched for acting like a dick in the game against Leverkusen.
It's handled very badly and instead of finding intelligent solutions together, questioning both the methods of the medical team and the training of the coaching staff, it became a huge silly public drama now (not that I'm surprised, it's the way we usually do things at the club).
Apparently not that unusual - certainly when doing due diligence on signing a player or a new manager taking over a club and wanting to assess his players
Also most clubs now have somebody (often a PI company) tasked with monitoring all social media to see what time people are posting messages etc or if they are showing online (xbox live etc) - plus if players are shown in clubs etc on twitter or tagged in photos they send somebody there to check on it
A football agent on five live a while ago spoke about it (I think during the last transfer window)
I think Pep was wrong to applaud in the way he did in public - but in private if the medical staff have messed up and took a chance with a player too early then yes he is of course entitled to rip into them and question their judgement - that said if I was the medical bloke I would probably have decked him in the clip shown
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Obviously, you're right. Still, it is hard to know what was going behind the scenes. And while Pep acted the twat, there might have been some good reasons that he felt that way. He is quite emotional and a perfectionist, maybe there was something for which they were fighting for quite a lot of time, and so Pep exploded.That's certainly not what happened. Where did that theory come from?
I guess, he just adds a bit of mumbo-jumbo because many superstar athletes are a bit supersticious and probably love that he does something unique around the important foundamental medical stuff. It's why he became a bit of a star himself and he clearly enjoys that image. It doesn't mean he's delusional and treats serious injuries solely with honey.
He has always been like this, so don't know why some people are finding it weird. I remember in a Barca-Bayern match when he was sent off from Webb after he protested for like 5 minutes when Barca wasn't awarded a pen. Barca was already winning 3-0 or so.
German media now report that the physiotherapists will follow and resign as well .
.Pep is a perfectionist but it is bordering on obsessive levels. I
Let's get him then. We can try those methods on RvP.
Not bad for a 72 year old. Looks like he may have some effective anti-ageing methods also.
Let's get him then. We can try those methods on RvP.
Does he just want out of his contract and off to City / back to Barca - perhaps he will pick a fight with Sammer / Rummenigge next?
Woody likes this.
That should be a genuine worry. Unlike Klopp going there.
Sign them
Vile behaviour from Guardiola there. It's one thing being annoyed, it's another being downright rude to your co-worker.
I think he really wants to get rid of the medical stuff. He was fighting with them from the very first moment on about almost everything. It's not something new, it just escalated at a time of crisis both in terms of results and injuries.
What is your take on the whole situation?
Pep has acted a bit of a tool on several occassions now, even small bits and pieces such as Ronaldo trying to say hello to him at an award only for Pep to turn around and blank him (at his time at Barca), the way he hangs his head and slumps after his divy clap though makes you think it was more a sudden rush of blood caused by the situation rather than anything maliciously planned.
uh? you serious?
When you've been doing your job for 40 years, recognised as one of the best, and then you get publicly humiliated like that? Nothing silly about that at all.
Christ on a bike...
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Jeremy Clarkson's removal from Top Gear has clearly affected James May quite badly.Not bad for a 72 year old. Looks like he may have some effective anti-ageing methods also.
It looks like Pep is part of a sketch or something.
He looks younger than May.
I'm amused. Whatever the outcome, if we end up having less injuries next season, I'm fine. If we need a proper meltdown to find out what's causing the huge amount of injuries (bad lack certainly plays a role, but it probably isn't the sole reason), then so be it. I usually find them entertaining.
Whilst it's unprofessional by Guardiola I can see his frustration.
First of all it's unfair to say "If I did this in my work..." because I guess most people don't work in a similar environment to football in terms of the pressure, money, attention and publicity involved. Whilst people will suffer stress in normal jobs it's rarely in the public eye. It doesn't excuse what he did but I don't think it's a realistic comparison to compare it to "normal" jobs.
He's also not clapping at the doctor. It would be massively frustrating for him as well to lose all these players to injuries. Players get injuries, that happens but when there's a lot people do question the medical staff...I'm sure there was a topic on here about people questioning ours when we got a lot of injuries under Fergie?
First of all it's unfair to say "If I did this in my work..." because I guess most people don't work in a similar environment to football in terms of the pressure, money, attention and publicity involved. Whilst people will suffer stress in normal jobs it's rarely in the public eye. It doesn't excuse what he did but I don't think it's a realistic comparison to compare it to "normal" jobs.
He's also not clapping at the doctor. It would be massively frustrating for him as well to lose all these players to injuries. Players get injuries, that happens but when there's a lot people do question the medical staff...I'm sure there was a topic on here about people questioning ours when we got a lot of injuries under Fergie?
He's Mays half-brother, product of an affair James Mays mum once had with sioux chief "paints his hair black"
I don't think that Pep has any ulterior motive, he has always been this way inclined. Pep is well known for being ridiculously intense, he takes everything to heart, and its clear the pressure of bringing the European Cup to Bayern is getting to him.
Think back to the way he left Barcelona, the noises he made at being exhausted, worn down by the pressure. He is not like Fergie, who would blow his top after a match, leave it all in the dressing room and move on. Pep carries around the losses with him, he internalises the setbacks, he has no safety valve, there's no off switch.
Pep's behaviour to his medical staff was awful. Publicly humiliating those working under you is unacceptable in any profession. Even if, somehow, its the medical staff's fault that his players are dropping like flies, Pep should be big enough to carry that. I think, deep down, he blames himself for not having a big squad going into the season but rather than accept that he's deflecting.
He has a big squad, probably the deepest squad out of all the European top teams.
Injury problems can seemingly often turn into bad cycles that are difficult to break. Having a long injury list increases the likelyhood of more injuries due to pressure to field as strong team as possible. The human body is a more limiting factor than the skill of the medical team. The risk-benefit analysis could be more difficult to make though if relations between medical and coaching teams are strained.
What annoys me the most is that this bullshit drama distracts from what actually happened on the pitch on wednesday. Now all the media will talk about how many players where injured and for how long, yet nobody will really go into how crappy we played and how nonsensical Pep's approach was in parts.
Looks like a great way to distract from the primary problems... well done, KHR and Pep.
That's not to say that I'm pro Doc in this case. I'm not a big fan of his and he's just as much of a dramaqueen and "politician" as the others.
Looks like a great way to distract from the primary problems... well done, KHR and Pep.
That's not to say that I'm pro Doc in this case. I'm not a big fan of his and he's just as much of a dramaqueen and "politician" as the others.
Found this in a Bayern forum.
