Guardiola insults medical staff | Medical team resigns

On the other hand, I don't see how a doctor can be responsible for an injury. Was Benatia rushed to being available from a previous injury by the doctor or something like that? Or is the medical team responsible for physical training, etc?
 
I generally think those are good points, just don't agree that it's odd for a coach to not be able to bring his own medical team.
Yeah I had a feeling that the 'English' way i.e. the manager doing or at least appearing to do most of the day to day work is the odd one out. And that it's more common in world football for it to be the opposite.
 
A couple of things.

.His not Pep's medical team, he's Bayren and as already said in this thread Bayren said no to Pep when he wanted to bring in his own medical team. Also this could just be me being to used to the 'Fergie' way of management but it just seem odd for a coach to not be able to bring in his own medical team.

.While the guy might be one of the best around, he's also got some very weird ideas(The Homeopathy) as already mentioned in this thread.

.With that in mind you can see why Pep might struggle with control knowing that someone on his medical team thinks smearing honey onto people does something other than making them sticky and delicious. Especially during a injury crisis.

.Pretty simple one this but PRESSURE.

Also I don't get the Barca stuff is nonsense.

Why is it odd for a coach to not bring in his own medical team? Atleast the players of Bayern have a big relationship to Müller-Wohlfahrt. Klinsmann installed an own doctor to Säbener Street... but the players did not go there but went to Müller-Wohlfahrt...

The players know that Müller-Wohlfahrt works in their interest. He will not try to make them fit for the next day when it will harm them longtime - or atleast he will tell them the risk.

There were this funny stories with the doctors of Arsenal and Özil who did not tell anything at Arsenal and went with the injury to Müller-Wohlfahrt in the international break. It was the same with Khedira and Real...
 
To be honest, you sound like a man who hasn't been sarcastically clapped at in your life. If you had ever experienced it the choice would be simple.

To be honest, you sound like a man who hasn't had a boot kicked in your face in your life.

I'm joking, but it's as relevant as "you've never experienced this so your opinion is flawed" for the clapping thing.

With that in mind you can see why Pep might struggle with control knowing that someone on his medical team thinks smearing honey onto people does something other than making them sticky and delicious.

:lol::lol::lol:
 
Gold. @Sweet Square With that in mind you can see why Pep might struggle with control knowing that someone on his medical team thinks smearing honey onto people does something other than making them sticky and delicious.
 
That sarcastic clapping is insanely unprofessional, especially coming from the manager who's supposed to lead from the front.

If I started sarcastically clapping my co-workers I'd be given a formal warning pretty damn quick.
 
A couple of things.

.His not Pep's medical team, he's Bayren and as already said in this thread Bayren said no to Pep when he wanted to bring in his own medical team. Also this could just be me being to used to the 'Fergie' way of management but it just seem odd for a coach to not be able to bring in his own medical team.

.While the guy might be one of the best around, he's also got some very weird ideas(The Homeopathy) as already mentioned in this thread.

.With that in mind you can see why Pep might struggle with control knowing that someone on his medical team thinks smearing honey onto people does something other than making them sticky and delicious. Especially during a injury crisis.

.Pretty simple one this but PRESSURE.

Also I don't get the Barca stuff is nonsense.
So what? He can discuss things with the medical staff/Bayern board in private. Behaving like a bellend in public like that is disgraceful and extremely disrespectful. Oh and the Barca stuff is qiute easy to understand: blaming the medical staff/refs/teams parking the bus/pitch ...
 
Why is it odd for a coach to not bring in his own medical team? Atleast the players of Bayern have a big relationship to Müller-Wohlfahrt. Klinsmann installed an own doctor to Säbener Street... but the players did not go there but went to Müller-Wohlfahrt...

The players know that Müller-Wohlfahrt works in their interest. He will not try to make them fit for the next day when it will harm them longtime - or atleast he will tell them the risk.

There were this funny stories with the doctors of Arsenal and Özil who did not tell anything at Arsenal and went with the injury to Müller-Wohlfahrt in the international break. It was the same with Khedira and Real...
It's odd from my point of view(A football fan in England) That the manager doesn't appear to be the main figure of the club. It seems at Bayren(I could be totally wrong) that the manager is one part of the machine rather than the operator(Although I'll admit that that's not always the case at clubs in England/Scotland).

The example you mentioned of the relationship that Müller-Wohlfahrt has with certain players seems completely strange(and to me a problem) and would clearly cause a divide with any new manager who walks in,never mind a complete control freak like Pep.

Although with all said I don't think one system is particularity better than other.
 
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So what? He can discuss things with the medical staff/Bayern board in private. Behaving like a bellend in public like that is disgraceful and extremely disrespectful. Oh and the Barca stuff is qiute easy to understand: blaming the medical staff/refs/teams parking the bus/pitch ...
I agree that it's disrespectful and clearly Pep should of keep it to the dressing room but anyone can see he was under stress. Let's not forgot if Bayren fail nobody's going to blame Doctor Stinging Nettles with his snake skins, they are going to blame Pep. So let's cut the guy some slack.
 
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Not surprising when he's done the following before:

Shouting at Alexis to use his head when he got injured, the using your head reference is to Alexis playing 90 mins for Chile a few days before this.



or shoving Cesc because he stopped running



plus slapping Thiago.
 
I agree that it's disrespectful and clearly Pep should of keep it to the dressing room but anyone can see he was under stress. Let's not forgot if Bayren fail nobody's going to blame Doctor Stinging Nettles with his honey pots, they are going to blame Pep. So let's cut the guy some slack.
All managers have stress. They don't turn into massive babies on the touch line though.
 
It is but, for all of Mourinho's flaws, I can't see him doing something like that.

Mourinho eye gouged a rival manager, stomped Cesc when he was downed after a tackle, made gestures towards Messi and Alves indicating they smelled bad and a long etc. yet you can't see him doing something like that :lol:
 
Wow, that's brutal :lol:

There's going to be so much outrage when he becomes the United manager. After all, anyone opposed to Mourinho must now stand against Guardiola as a matter of principle.
 
How many injuries do they currently have? Are they going to have to use the Gesetzliche Krankenversicherun?
 
How many injuries do they currently have? Are they going to have to use the Gesetzliche Krankenversicherun?

Bayern's injury table this season (Bundesliga matchdays)

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Green: starting formation, bench: on bench without playing, arrow: substituted in, red sign - injured

Schweinsteiger's is wrong. He still did not exercise today because of the flu but his ankle seems to be ok. There is hope that he is back for the bench Tuesday - but certainly not in the starting formation.
 
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Bayern's injury table this season (Bundesliga matchdays)

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Green: starting formation, bench: on bench without playing, arrow: substituted in, red sign - injured

Yeah I'm not really that fussed I just wanted to say "Gesetzliche Krankenversicherun"
 
That vine deserves Pharrell's 'Happy' in the background.

Wasn't there some beef between Pep and their doctors before anyway? I think he sent Thiago to one of his old Barcelona doctors or to USA or something. Pep probably would love him some Fuentes right now and his magic juice.he sure would
 
The cynic in me is saying he has done this to expidite a move to City maybe?? Just leaving Bayern would appear poor but asked to move on due to one outburst could seem a little more legit?
 
That vine deserves Pharrell's 'Happy' in the background.

Wasn't there some beef between Pep and their doctors before anyway? I think he sent Thiago to one of his old Barcelona doctors or to USA or something. Pep probably would love him some Fuentes right now and his magic juice.he sure would

MW is a doctor who thinks that it is better to let something fully heal and not throw the player to early in again. Actually that is in the interest of the club, too. And of the player. I think that van Gaal has a similar philosophy - that is why him and Müller-Wohlfahrt got along very well. That you should not rush back players before they are due. There was the story with the Elftal doc who got Robben through the World Cup 2010 only that he was out for Bayern until after Xmas because of the treatment...

Thiago is a similar story to this. The spanish doc and Pep did everything to get him back too early and in time for the World Cup. Just that it backfired badly.

The cynic in me is saying he has done this to expidite a move to City maybe?? Just leaving Bayern would appear poor but asked to move on due to one outburst could seem a little more legit?

I do not think so. The Sky reporter that covers Bayern mainly told that it escalated over two things - a talk between MW and Rummenigge yesterday - and a visit of Ribery (I do not know who were the other participants in that talk apart from Ribs and MS) in the docs office yesterday between 4 and 6 p.m.
 
That's pathetic. I thought Pep was one of those mild irrelevant personalities but that shows no class whatsoever. I don't know if there's a back story of friction between him and the team but on face value that is shockingly bad from the manager.
 
Not surprising when he's done the following before:

Shouting at Alexis to use his head when he got injured, the using your head reference is to Alexis playing 90 mins for Chile a few days before this.



or shoving Cesc because he stopped running



plus slapping Thiago.

Those are okay. Managers can be tough bastards. We should know!

But this incident is properly classless.
 
Worst sort of leadership in my opinion. Allowing your emotions get the better of you in front of the whole world.

These sort of things should always be taken care of behind closed doors.
 
He is obviously a great coach but I have long suspected he is lacking in the social aspects of being a manager due to some personality traits.
Not sure how you can come to that conclusion when LVG and Mourinho have proven to be great managers.
 

Hopefully he has said "Tut mir leid für die aktion" because that is really a disgrace.

Another season with Guardiola and Müller-Wohlfahrt was very unlikely but to lose NOW the whole medical staff is really a shock.

Well Guardiola is unsackable in Rummenigge's eyes and it seems there were a lot of new incidents (Ribery, Schweinsteiger & Benatia) in the last couple of weeks so then there was only one winner.
I don't understand why the Bayern Munich bosses are giving Guardiola so much power in that case especially after the disaster with Thiago.

If Rummenigge, Sammer or/and Guardiola are really blaming the medical staff for the loss against FC Porto then some people are losing their nerves.

Wonder what Robben thinks? He's had his best years of being injury free with this guy.
Some Bayern Munich journalists are thinking some players like him or Schweinsteiger will still go to Müller-Wohlfahrt like that was the case under Klinsmann.
But hopefully he wants to leave and would like to play under Van Gaal again ;)