For periods this season, Eriksen looks like the player you first bought for 2-3 (maybe 2)seasons where he was ineffective to terrible. What is causing this, too many games?
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For periods this season, Eriksen looks like the player you first bought for 2-3 (maybe 2)seasons where he was ineffective to terrible. What is causing this, too many games?
Is it Mauricio's fault that they have a very thin squad or is it Levy being tight?
I think if they are still at WHL this season they probably have another 6 points on the board.
Plus Chelsea might have 2 or 3 less.
It's a huge factor for them. Last season was built on home form. 17 wins and 2 draws.
They were only 5th in the away table last season.
http://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=england_2017
Plus Chelsea might have 2 or 3 less.
It's a huge factor for them. Last season was built on home form. 17 wins and 2 draws.
They were only 5th in the away table last season.
http://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=england_2017
He's looked fatigued (Eriksen). With Lamela back I imagine they can rotate a tiny bit more.
I'm not sure but someone is to blame surely? Madness to think they could cope.
I think his mind is on the world cup and getting out of Spurs in the summer.
I'd wager the latter, but Spurs fans feel free to chime in. Also, I'd doubt Poch is the reason so many of their best players are on, subjectively speaking, low wages for a team of their stature.
Feels like a mass exodus coming up in the summer. Can't see their key/star players putting up with this on-top of lower wages relative to teams below and above them?
I was told that Pochettino can work wonders with youth players and is the only reason Kane, Alli, Rose, Eriksen etc are good players. Surely he can work his coaching magic and get a tune out of some of these players? Or maybe he got lucky with a few players being better than he thought and Spurs were doing better as a result.
I see the Pochettino fanboys are quiet on here tonight.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...m-hotspur-manchester-city-united-rivals-spurs
Yeah, City and United are looking really worried.
Yeah, City and United are looking really worried.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, think this season is make or break for Spurs and this group of players. If they aren't successful I can see a number of the key gems moving on. The signs are already there;
1) Rose comments to press
2) Alderweireld not signing his contract
3) Walker being sold in the summer
They need a trophy and some investment or the big boys will be off.
you kidding? I hope you are just talking about the probability of it because I and others in their right minds would take Kane all day long over Lukaku.
They have completely lost their backbone with injuries to Wanyama and Alderweireld but this is something a lot of people have been saying here for a long time. Quality first XI but very little depth.
Crystal Palace got more points than them in November, with 7 games to play in December they need to go on a run or they could be playing catch up for CL places.
Crystal Palace got more points than them in November, with 7 games to play in December they need to go on a run or they could be playing catch up for CL places.
Alli is looking poor this season. Not enough influence on games.
Said it before. Alderweireld is the best CB going. Would get into any team. Huge miss.
Said it before. Alderweireld is the best CB going. Would get into any team. Huge miss.
I believe Spurs are suffering from fatigue. Getting points off Real Madrid is no fluke. Their development and improvement over the years is no fluke either. Maybe resident Spurs fans can answer my previous question.
That changes each time they sell a player. If they stay they are ruby and emerald encrusted players but if they leave they were non-essential squad players.
This. Before we beat Spurs at Old Trafford I thought the media might start calling Pochettino the alchemist, they treat him like he can turn dirt into gold.
I am not anti-Pochettino but the OTT hype he gets from the press, just cos Spurs have a solid England national team contingent, is a bit much.
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The question on everyones lips is can the new super stadium save Spurs, and if so, will it be constructed in time to avert the crisis?
The question on everyones lips is can the new super stadium save Spurs, and if so, will it be constructed in time to avert the crisis?
No it wasn't a fluke, have you seen Real Madrid this season? Fuenlabrada, Girona, Real Betis and Soceidad have all taken points off them.
The players development is also not a fluke, Harry Kane is a special talent and all he needed was games. The same can be said for Alli and Eriksen.
Pochettino's impact has largely been on players that aren't their star players. Rose has definitely improved under Pochettino and I would say that Wanyama the same. But he isn't a Wizard that some would have you believe.
Madrid aren't very impressive this season tbh. Not to take anything away from Spurs' win, they still got the job done. They haven't looked the same force they have the past 2-3 years though. (So far anyway, probably will change come the knockout rounds)
After watching the highlights I would give Poch a pass on this one.
How did they not score 6? 6 of the easiest chances you'll see were fluffed from inside the sixteen yard box
How did they not score 6? 6 of the easiest chances you'll see were fluffed from inside the sixteen yard box
I know the king power stadium is one of the smallest pitches in the league but it’s still an adult pitch.
Im sorry, the amount of simples chances they missed threw my brain off.
They could have had open goals from a 2 yard box and still mess them up
They could have had open goals from a 2 yard box and still mess them up
Checked out the highlights. Their xG was almost 3 times higher than Leicester. Its like those games last season where we would miss several easy chances and end up with a draw.
I think it might be more to do with a certain brand new 850 million dollar stadium. Arsenal went through this exact same period iirc.
I didnt watch the Spurs game(United were playing). But I just saw the highlights, wow at those missed chances. How does Llorente go from scoring 12 or so last season at Swansea to not being able to score a tap in? When he moved to Spurs I thought it was a good bit of business on their behalf.
Spurs didnt play badly, the 2 goals came from only 4 on target looking over Leicester's stats. And the finishes from Vardy and Mahrez were both quality. Spurs had something like 17 shots with 63% possession, a lot from close range and fluffed them badly, tap ins to Eriksen and Llorente and a bunch of other half chances.
But goals win games, and Spurs' finishing was some of the worst ive seen. Im sure ive seen better finishing at my local pub side on a Sunday where half the team is hung over.
Add the fact that he has never won a title anywhere, and those fawning for him will turn against him when the inevitable happens and he wins nothing at Old Trafford.
Normally I'd laugh but the state of the misses by Sissoko, Eriksen and Llorente ffs!
They have daddy issues.
Guess all those people slating their summer business have proved correct so far. Didn’t significantly strengthen enough to be able to cope with 3 games a week.
Hope they find some form soon as they’ve got City coming up. Watching the highlights it seems as though they had more than their fair share of chances and Leicester scored a couple of worldies. Might have just been one of those nights.
Hope they find some form soon as they’ve got City coming up. Watching the highlights it seems as though they had more than their fair share of chances and Leicester scored a couple of worldies. Might have just been one of those nights.
Unless you're looking at them as a squad, competing on multiple fronts over a gruelling season, that comparison doesn't work. We can switch out more players than they can whilst maintaining a certain standard, there's no way they can do the same.
Alderweireld, Wanayama, Ericksen, Alli and Kane make up their proper spine and none of them can afford to be missing or have an off day. We've not got the same reliance on core players to come out the other end with a result, even if what we do to acquire those pts isn't the prettiest (as attested to in the absence of Pogba.)
They've the first xi, but they don't have a better squad. They are ill-equipped to go deep in the CL whilst battling in the league - one will invariably derail the other even if they try to focus on both campaigns at once.
Good point - as a counter measure though it's also true that Poch has never been judged in that environment. There's nothing to suggest he's capable of building a team able to compete for multiple honours over the whole season.
But are you saying that he should never be given the chance to do so? Isn't that a catch 22? How can he prove himself if he's never given the means to do so?
Spurs are set by their limitation/ambition. Levy/ the stadium, whatever, there's a barrier there where overcoming it is unfeasible without a golden generation of youth coming through to supplement the squad and give them a fair chance to compete, as equals, with far vaster squads.
The CL is a beautiful irony in how it is something to strive for but ultimately what is the undoing of so many hopeful teams. It Travellers players out for the league, whilst also bringing an unwanted spotlight to the star players as it verifies whether they are players wealthier teams should go for... by the end of a successful CL campaign, you've most likely got a league campaign in tatters and then a whole summer trying to keep your players, which often ends in tears once they've had their heads' turned.
Welcome to the shark tank!
Looks like they've been missing chances they have previously been putting away. Similar to the kind of run we went on this time last season. Not much more in it than that.
Maybe he needs an attacking coach?
Funny to see how quick some are to come out and make excuses for Poch after a loss. It's all the squads fault see.
Maybe you should watch the highlight and stop hating instead?
A lot like us last season
The squad is about the season. It isn't an excuse, it's a fact and common sense.
Cumulative fatigue, both mental and physical, comes about when players don't get a chance to rest.
Losing any one game for whatever the reason is of no significance, but when things repeat on themselves you have to examine the underlying factors.
Spurs can't 'try other things' to dig themselves out of a hole, like a host of clubs with better squads can; they just have to plod on to the next game, and the next, with the same players, which is unheard of at bigger clubs where poor performers get dropped and another player off the bench is given a go.
If Ericksen or Alli were at a City or United and put in the performances they have of late, they'd be back of the line waiting for another crack at it whilst others who were waiting in the wings were fielded and given the chance to stake their claim. Until Spurs can do this it is disingenuous to make a par analysis as we all know it's their first xi plus Son getting them to wherever it is they manage to get to and not much else.
No, but just assuming he can adapt is also wishful thinking. With the squad he has, constantly being nearly men isn't good enough, especially for a manager that many on here consider the second coming. Fact of the matter is, if he can't win a title there with a squad that imo challenges City for the best in the league (first eleven anyway), then he isn't going to be able to muster one up here with the current state of our squad.
Squad depth is an issue, but I doubt he wasn't given money to spend, that's on him. He's got players like Son, Lamela, Sissoko, Llorente, Dembele - who can play as replacements for Alli and Eriksen, his insistence to play them is down to himself. You can argue that those players are stepdowns from the Alli's and Eriksen's which fair enough is true, but our replacements for Martial and Rashford is Lingard. Our replacement for Mkhi is literally nobody as we don't have another proper number 10 in the side (Mata hasn't played there consistently since I can ever remember). Our replacement for Pogba is either a walking pace Carrick or Herrera who essentially just steps on the feet of our other best midfielder Matic.
Our replacement for Valencia is Darmian or another makeshift winger in Young.
They have a few very good options at fullbacks, Davinson is a very good centre-back even when Alderweireld is out, they have more than enough options in the centre of the pitch with Dembele, Sissoko, Wanyama, Winks etc. They have Son, Lamela etc. to replace Alli and Eriksen. The only place they don't have a proper replacement is Kane and that's a given considering he's probably the best striker in the World atm - even then they have a very good PL proven player in Llorente.
He's underperformed imo and all this talk of squad depth is just clutching at straws to try and defend the new shiny toy on the Caf. He's a very good manager and he's done wonders at Spurs to improve them the way he has, but not winning literally any proper silverware in his career is not good enough imo.
The season Leicester won it they played the same players the whole season, when Spurs bottled that season when all the other top teams were struggling I knew Spurs were a team of nearly men.
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