The Active Shooter Thread

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The fact he was the first black president gives him a slightly different, and therefore maybe an elevated, perception. Everyone remembers the 'first', whether its black, woman, differently sexually inclined. Sadiq Khan is kind of getting that here. And despite him being a mate of mine (grew up together and entered football competitions, etc) he's not doing that much more than Boris, Ken, etc. But he's got a different perception.
No the fact that he was the first Black President will put him under more scrutiny not elevate him into this imaginary perception you are talking about. Half the illiterates didnt like him JUST cause he was black.
 
All these students from Florida who are advocating for stricter gun control are unpatriotic socialists who are hell bent on taken away our freedoms. These traitors all need to be lined up against a wall and shot.
 
There’s only one way to stop school shootings and that’s by hardening the schools and arming the teachers.
This way the teachers can shoot all the pupils so that there will be no more pupils left to shoot.
 
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The madness of it all. I sometimes wonder if US Americans actually realize how insane all these seems to other western countries.

I mean you have to only go as far as Canada to see how well stricter gun laws and background checks actually work. But hey I guess they are just simply too polite to shoot people, which would never work in the US because you know secretly they are all giant arseholes.
 
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The madness of it all. I sometimes wonder if US Americans actually realize how insane all these seems to other western countries.

I mean you have to only go as far as Canada to see how well stricter gun laws and background checks actually work. But hey I guess they are just simply too polite to shoot people, which would never work in the US because you know secretly they are all giant arseholes.

Tell me about it. It's like we have more faith in America than themselves. "Gun control wouldn't work in America...we have a different culture...a violent history". You're only about 200 years old for fecks sake you will be fine.
 
Just checked online... The bidding for them on GunBroker is starting at an average of $300 right now, with final sale prices ending up between $750-$1000.

They retailed for less than $200 not long ago.

Was similar after Vegas. They went from $125-150 to all of a sudden selling for $900+ because people thought they would be banned. The supplies stopped selling them for a short time as well. Then a week ago you could get them for around $100.
 
Fair play to Rubio for showing up and having a conversation. That's what you want from your representatives, I think.

Again...he shouldn't be getting praised for this, it's literally his job.
 
I just hate that we've created a climate where somehow the only answer many people can fathom to tons of innocent people being murdered by guns on a daily basis is to pass out more guns. The rhetoric is basically the only way to feel safe is to have a gun. It's such circular, dumb logic. All because people would rather risk innocent people dying than losing their toys.
 
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The madness of it all. I sometimes wonder if US Americans actually realize how insane all these seems to other western countries.

I mean you have to only go as far as Canada to see how well stricter gun laws and background checks actually work. But hey I guess they are just simply too polite to shoot people, which would never work in the US because you know secretly they are all giant arseholes.

Can one of the techy savvy tards please put up a nice picture showing the gun violence/shootings side by side? Like player ratings. Thanks.
 
I don't see a problem praising him for doing his job well.

He isn't doing it well though, he still takes money from the organisation that funds guns which kill people in these mass shootings. Praising him for merely going to the meeting is like heaping praise on Mourinho for merely turning up at Old Trafford.
 
All these students from Florida who are advocating for stricter gun control are unpatriotic socialists who are hell bent on taken away our freedoms. These traitors all need to be lined up against a wall and shot.

With a bump stocked AR-15 no doubt.
 
I sometimes wonder if US Americans actually realize how insane all these seems to other western countries.
The ones who support the complete lack of regulation don’t care what it looks like to the rest of the world. They’ll never visit it.
It would be cool if every student and teacher in the US walked out and stayed out until action was taken on gun control.
Except for the fact that there are teachers all over the place who ARE some of the super duper pro NRA types.

I had a government teacher tell me at lunch yesterday that what Australia did would never work here because they have a different mentality than us. That some Americans “souls are broken” and so we need protection from them.
 
Arming teachers LMAO. How does the so called "leader of the free world" come up with such ridiculous ideas? How about just having 3 trained security fecking guards at every school?
 
The whole arming teachers thing is just a diversion. It’s not meant to be taken seriously. They’re doing exactly what they always do after one of these shootings. Spew a load of hot air until the initial outrage dies down and/or some other big story breaks and the gun control issue fades into the background.
 
Its crazy. No political will combined with a gun culture.

Give you an idea of what bump stocked AR 15 can discharge at:



By the end of it, you too will come to the conclusion that its neither useful for hunting or self-defence/protection


Just highlights the absurdity of the debate where banning bump stocks is considered a big deal. Just imagine how people would react if the Dems were in charge and banned AR15s.
 
The ones who support the complete lack of regulation don’t care what it looks like to the rest of the world. They’ll never visit it.

Yeah probably true but I don't even get the stance from people who actually love guns for recreational "shooting" and to feel protected. I mean it should be in the interest of serious gun enthusiast to keep guns out of the hand of mentally ill nut jobs. But I guess there might be a lot of fear in these people that they probably are among these people?
 
The whole arming teachers thing is just a diversion. It’s not meant to be taken seriously. They’re doing exactly what they always do after one of these shootings. Spew a load of hot air until the initial outrage dies down and/or some other big story breaks and the gun control issue fades into the background.

You say that at the moment, but...
 
You say that at the moment, but...

The orange buffoon coming out with that shit might even believe what he’s saying. But he’s being fed lines by people far cleverer than him. Not a hope in hell will they ever introduce actual legislation to arm teachers. Wait and see.
 
The arming of teachers is just a way to deflect the gun debate into a different direction - rather than disarming, it seeks to further securitize society, which will only have worse ramifications.
 
The orange buffoon coming out with that shit might even believe what he’s saying. But he’s being fed lines by people far cleverer than him. Not a hope in hell will they ever introduce actual legislation to arm teachers. Wait and see.

Agree with this. Give them something more ridiculous to be outraged about and original issues fades into background.
 
Showing up to a townhall meeting is doing his job WELL? If he did his job and supported gun reform in the first place then this wouldnt have happened at all.
You're looking at it from your perspective. His main job is to represent his electorate and their views.
 
NRA should be declared a terrorist organisation. They are responsible for deaths of more Americans than Al Qaeda is.

Patriotic my arse. Driven money scum financed from weapon manufacturers they are.
 
The NRA need a good counter campaign against them. Would be great if a group of lefty billionaires pooled about 10b into a fund to discredit them, their leadership, and launch relentless ads against any politician that accepts money from them.
 
The orange buffoon coming out with that shit might even believe what he’s saying. But he’s being fed lines by people far cleverer than him. Not a hope in hell will they ever introduce actual legislation to arm teachers. Wait and see.

I agree it probably won't actually happen, but I think a good number of Republican politicians would genuinely like to see this; it's not some fringe idea but instead something a significant portion of the actual reigning government would endorse.
 
You're looking at it from your perspective. His main job is to represent his electorate and their views.
So tomorrow if his electorate wants all drugs legalized is he going to make it happen in his state? He is representing the minority group's views cause that suits his views since he is receiving donations from the NRA cnuts. It doesnt mean he is doing the right thing. Dont fall for everything the politician says cause that exactly what he did at the townhall - "I need to worry about my agenda".
 
I agree it probably won't actually happen, but I think a good number of Republican politicians would genuinely like to see this; it's not some fringe idea but instead something a significant portion of the actual reigning government would endorse.

A portion of them, maybe. Doubt it’s a majority though. Even the most rabid gun nuts will know they haven’t a snowball’s chance in hell of getting any actual legislation along these lines through congress. It’s all bluff and bluster.
 
And when a deranged teacher goes on a killing spree, they will bring up mental health issues again and then talk about putting guns in the kids's hands.

And when a kid steals the gun of an armed teacher?
 
Its crazy. No political will combined with a gun culture.

Give you an idea of what bump stocked AR 15 can discharge at:



By the end of it, you too will come to the conclusion that its neither useful for hunting or self-defence/protection


Thoughts watching this:

1. How sure is he that there is no one down range that could be impacted by high velocity projectiles? Even in the wastes of Wyoming, there's a non-zero risk that there's some stragglers that might be impacted by such activities

2. The AR is a really sexy gun. Sleek and menacing. The engineering of the device is impressive too, much less recoil than I expected for the exit velocity. If I had a lot of spare cash I'd probably buy one, along with a shit-load of blanks, and play pretend COD in my briefs.

3. If required by law, I'd gladly give my theoretical AR up. My curiosity pales in comparison to the overall societal benefit of not having guns.

4. The bump stock is a really ingenious way (engineering wise) of bypassing the semi-auto restriction. It has no use outside of war, and should be banned. Shit, not many infantry soldiers have access to full auto capability, it's a waste of ammo. Worthless for hunting, useless for home self-defense. Plus it amplifies the damage a maniac can use.

5. Reading the video comments, the disconnect between American's jadedness with gun violence (I admit I'm guilty of this at times) and the rest of the world just screaming, "what the actual feck is wrong with you morons????", couldn't be more stark. That should be enough to give most Americans food for thought. I don't think there is any other country in the world where there is such an unhealthy attachment with advanced lethal slingshots. Unfortunately I think that justified reaction from youse' causes morons to shout "MURICA" and dig in deeper.
 
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