if that report is true, surely Ole just leaves him with the u23’s all season. No point in him playing him, we’d be better off playing Lingard or Andreas.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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Yes because football clubs always do this in real life.
That's why the likes of Alaba, Ramos, Wijnaldum, Depay and Donnarumma spent all last season rotting away on the bench and youth teams
I'm sure Mbappe will be rotting on the bench this season too just like Messi did last year.
Lot of you are gonna have to get a grip on reality eventually because he's more than likely going nowhere this summer and the manager/club still rate him
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That worked when lads were on 30k a week and rarely used for media, not when you've used someone to front every one of your marketing campaigns
Well, as a free agent he will, along with his agent get a massive signing on-fee in the region of 30/40 million (see Alaba). I always say there is no such thing as a free transfer. He's already on a massive salary so there's not much hurry or incentive for Pogba and his agent. It's financially in his interest to hold off and see what offers are out there come next January/June. If he has a massive season United could also offer him similar incentives as other top clubs as a free agent.
Anyway, It's his prerogative and pointless getting worked up. No doubt we will get chances to sign some of the best players on so-called free transfers in the future.
In isolation, as a player, I would love him to stay. But when you factor in everything (what our squad needs, the wages he would demand, dealing with Mino), I can’t say I’m that arsed either way.
I’m personally not a fan of transfer fees altogether and I see a future with more trades and free transfers. If Madrid didn’t need the cash right now as badly as they do, a Varane-Pogba swap would’ve suited everyone.
I’m personally not a fan of transfer fees altogether and I see a future with more trades and free transfers. If Madrid didn’t need the cash right now as badly as they do, a Varane-Pogba swap would’ve suited everyone.
So running down his deal because he doesn't have many options shows he has a big ego? What should he do just sign whatever contract United offer him?
A lot of people acting like players running down their contract is uncommon. We've seen high profile transfers with Gini, Donnuruma and Alaba this summer and Lewandowski a number of years ago.
agreed you can't make him go to a club but you can certainly hint that it would be in his best interest to consider if he has intends to run out his contract
Many examples of it and mostly players are professional enough to perform. See Lewandowski at Dortmund
Yes because football clubs always do this in real life.
That's why the likes of Alaba, Ramos, Wijnaldum, Depay and Donnarumma spent all last season rotting away on the bench and youth teams
I'm sure Mbappe will be rotting on the bench this season too just like Messi did last year.
Lot of you are gonna have to get a grip on reality eventually because he's more than likely going nowhere this summer and the manager/club still rate him
The big difference being those players you mentioned still performed for their clubs and were respectful to the club and it’s fans, throughout their contracted period.
therein lies the problem…
I’m not sure Pogba would fall into this category, he could easily take the year off coasting and I doubt any big club wouldn’t be interested based on his ability or form. It would be a massive gamble from Ole and the club if he doesn’t leave or sign a new deal to just leave him out every week especially if we aren’t winning but I think the precedent it sets would be worth it long term (more so the club than Ole I guess) and it at least looks like we’re sort of taking charge of the situation.
The risk/reward for clubs now is how much extra is it gonna cost them to sign him now with few others capable of making offers compared to signing him on a ‘free’ when Raiola wants his extra cut and can pimp him out to whoever offers the most
And quotes from coaches present or past of Pogba that would suggest this?
His handling of and comments in the media, along with the behaviour of his agent do.
The disgust for Pogba on this forum is disgusting, bordering on personal hatred for the guy.
It's astounding how many have said it.
The worst was the one saying he should be treated like a human being, I mean like, really?!
We are negotiating a huge contract for Bruno if reports are to be believed and Rashford was given a bumper contract 2 years back when he 21. Think when he renews, he will earn close to what we are offering Pogba.
And Rio salary was much higher than Vidic. I don't remember by how much though but I will try to find something and post here.
Again salary include the money we pay for image rights and it's not a very simple comparison then. Bruno and Pogba might get same base salary ( Pogba base salary is rumoured to be 144k by football leaks document) but image rights maybe double or triple depending on the player profile. Then when it is divided by weeks, you start seeing the difference. This is lost on so many here as they just see the final value
I dont fault him. In the end, both club and players need to look after themselves. Only the fanboys come up with a "holier than thou" justifications for simple money grab tactics
Once a player gets targeted by a section of fans, it almost seems to feed off itself and snowballs quickly. I don't know if it's to do with modern fandom, social media, short-termism, a lack of perspective on the bigger picture, or what. But it can become very unforgiving and dogmatic.
I love watching him play but this needs to be resolved this summer. Either sign a contract or do everything to sell him.
I know many big names have made to free transfer but the media speculation and circus around him would make this last season unbearable.
I'd love for us to move to a 433 with Pogba and Bruno sharing defensive and attacking resposibility. That would mean signing Pogba to a big new deal and get a better holding midfielder, but that seems unlikely to come to fruition this summer.
I know many big names have made to free transfer but the media speculation and circus around him would make this last season unbearable.
I'd love for us to move to a 433 with Pogba and Bruno sharing defensive and attacking resposibility. That would mean signing Pogba to a big new deal and get a better holding midfielder, but that seems unlikely to come to fruition this summer.
Thanks. I saw all the notifications in reply to my post and thought, "Uh-oh," but I've been pleasantly surprised that more of us seem to agree on this than I realized.
To be fair it’s not limited to Pogba. I genuinely don’t know what many posters seem to get out of “supporting” us - there are some exceptionally bitter and negative people who hate everything about the club on here.
He has not said anything about his contract. Pogba has not disrespected the club in anyway. You need to lie down.
Not to mention, if fans could get out of their own fandom, everybody here would do something similar. You want to have control over your career and not be held back by a transfer fee where your possible destinations are limited. You only get one career, and it can get cut short in any game. I definitely understand most people side with their club and have loyalty towards that club so anything like that is seen as disrespect or being a mercenary, but I always tend to lean more towards player power and I also think we are only seeing the beginning of more and more high-profile players running down their contract, which will be to the benefit of most clubs dealing with the pandemic and short on cash.
I agree about Raiola, but everyone seems to mention him only in relation to Pogba, whereas he's also agent to other high profile players like Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Marco Verratti, Donnarumma, Matthijs de Ligt, and Erling Haaland.
He hasn't said anything though. The summer of 2018 (?) was the only time he suggested he wanted to leave. It all comes back to Mino's comments winding you up.
Thanks! And yes, I've had that same reaction to accusations of him getting caught on the ball. Every single player out there gets caught on the ball. It's a fast-paced high-pressing sport, arguably more than ever now, and it's part of every single player's experience. I agree with all your points.
I've said it a few times now, with Pogba the hate is quite personal. And that's here's which is a sanitised place. Don't even want to imagine the abuse on other online platforms.
I'm glad I took the time to try and articulate it. At first I was expecting a big pushback from those who want rid of Pogba, and when I saw my notifications I feared the worst, but it's been a pleasant surprise to see how many of us feel this way about the player and how the narrative has been so self-defeating.
Off the back of his “best season” he said it was time for a new challenge somewhere else
Mino’s comments do wind me up, you’re not wrong there!
I was hoping that the next muppet train was an incoming player, not one potentially leaving.
The former is not as fun as the latter.
The former is not as fun as the latter.
Yes, I've noticed this too. Even from the pundits, who should know better than directing such dog-whistle animosity at him. Graeme Souness (I love that autocorrect always prefers it to be spelled Sourness) in particular went pretty much full-on "You kids get off my lawn" at Pogba, and many of his criticisms contained the kind of tropes often aimed at, let's say, nonwhite people.
Comments from 3 years ago. And what's so bad in someone saying it might be time for s new challenge?
You people take football too seriously.
The ones who can’t articulate their negative agenda well enough will have avoided a well constructed post like that.
They are out in force now though with the ‘get rid of the virus’ and their favourite key word ‘circus.’
I don’t think any of them have been to a circus to be honest.
Let me get this straight:
1. Godfather suggests that most players are professional enough to perform even as they run out their contract...suggesting Pogba is capable of that.
2. You then suggest that that is the problem, clearly meaning you think Pogba can't be professional enough to perform while running down his contract...
3. Hellhunter then alludes to how coaches have spoken well of his professionalism and that basically he is capable of being a professional and do what Godfather suggests.
I'd add even with how Jose literally gave him HELL and threw him under the bus and made him the scapegoat, he still maintained his professionalism under those conditions, just like Shaw and other players Jose gave hell.
4. And then you drop this gem of "logic" his handling of the media and the behavior of his agent show he can't be professional and perform well on the pitch...
Uhm...how do you make that mental gymnastics possible? What does that have to do with him being able to be a professional and perform to his best while his contract is on the last year...just how?
Yes because football clubs always do this in real life.
That's why the likes of Alaba, Ramos, Wijnaldum, Depay and Donnarumma spent all last season rotting away on the bench and youth teams
I'm sure Mbappe will be rotting on the bench this season too just like Messi did last year.
Lot of you are gonna have to get a grip on reality eventually because he's more than likely going nowhere this summer and the manager/club still rate him
It's beyond laughable now. Some of these posts are so ridiculous in this thread I'm not sure if it's a pisstake or not. How Pogba manages to wind up so many people for no reason is almost funny.
You can go further than him maintaining his professionalism under Jose - he was a key reason he kept his job as long as he did.
Yeah, the virus insult is particularly nasty. And completely negated by the supportive words of his teammates.
The only time they've been to a circus is when they all piled into one tiny car.
Yeah this gets forgotten so easily. Pogba behaviour was incredibly professional.
But after Jose was sacked, likes of Gary Neville led the Twitter mob against him.
At least have the balls to say racism if you're gonna hint at it. I don't hate pogba but I certainly see why others do and there's absolutely no reason to think it has anything to do with race. But sure, any disdain towards how anyone acts now has to have some deep rooted meaning. He's a frustrating player that's done nothing to appease the fan base he plays for. He knows what his agent is doing (as he made him reel it in once before).