Anyone excited about 2 hours of football and not having to think about this tomorrow?
MERGED: Rooney signs new contract!
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whether or not Rooney is on form, Macheda and Hernandez need to get more playing time
Rooney is already adamant about leaving, it's time to give more playing time to the youth since they will be here and Rooney will not.
Rooney is already adamant about leaving, it's time to give more playing time to the youth since they will be here and Rooney will not.
I can't wait for the match tomorrow. Hopefully it's a good hammering.
United are perfect for Rooney, I can't see how any other manager could come close to controlling him.
Mancini? feck off
Mancini? feck off
The answer is yes.
Well Ferguson can't leave Rooney on the bench for longer than the January transfer window (if that in fact) without him walking out on a free under the FIFA 'Just Cause' Transfer Regulations.
To be fair, Owen's a wanker too.
Yes. No need to discuss! Drop him totally. Take his Jersey too.
I really hope Hernandez and Owen get more game time from now on, would rather have someone who wants to play be on the pitch.
Can't believe this is Owens fault.
Oh wait, what?
Oh wait, what?
He can't name him in the matchday squad and make him an unused sub, or he can't put him up in the stands for the rest of the season?
What about until January?
Why do people keep thinking this? Real Madrid and Barca don't want him, they already are fully stocked with just as much or even more talented players in the positions that Rooney can play. His lack of true technical ability with the ball at his feet would be found out in Spain. His style of play is not fit for La Liga.
and at this point there are MANY individuals I would rather have playing for my team
His head and his heart are probably not even here anymore, so he really doesn't have much motivation to play better for us, what's the point?
Am just blown away by this news. One time I'll go against being reasonable and if Rooney does leave after all he has said about wanting to leave and much as the club and fans have got behind him ... I will wish the nastiest things possible to happen to him.
Absurd reaction on my part but, an absurd situation.
Absurd reaction on my part but, an absurd situation.
Let him rot and give Kiko and Chicharito a real go. Get the loanees back while we are at it. Who gives a feck?
Mourinho DOES want him but he's out because City have a verbal agreement with Rooney.
And you're still a bit of a spastic by the look of it.
I think their work is done to be honest. Rooney will have to man up and faces the cameras himself next.
Where's this from?
Hell hath no fury like a football manager player's scorn.
Like I've said in other threads, IF it's just personal problems things may settle down in a few months time and he'll happily sign a new contract. I'm sure most of us have been in a dark place where we're not thinking clearly for a while, and I'm hoping that's all that's happening here. That's why I'm hoping the fans don't get on his back too much until we know more about what the hell is going on.
Mourinho feels it to be the case which is why he won't be bidding. I see no reason why it's not true. Otherwise there's no way he would've shown his cards.
Get used to it - they'll be winning the double soon and such like. Of course, just like Chelsea, it will be tainted by the fact that their progression wasn't natural, and therefore any non-City fans will view it as a hollow victory, only made possible by the cash the owners have chucked around.
I think its obvious something big has been agreed... you don't just turn down a contract at United without foundation. Remember this was decided in August. I just hope we have planned for his departure.
My internet went down just as the first reports came from the press conference. Must say that I am quite surprised.
For what it's worth I say feck him. Whatever the real reason might be, there is only one version I care about and that is Ferguson's. Rooney has been good for us, he was our best player last year, but hasn't been good since March. If we can get a good price for him and get a good replacement I think we'll be ok. Bit afraid about what this will do for other big players like Vidic, Evra etc.
For what it's worth I say feck him. Whatever the real reason might be, there is only one version I care about and that is Ferguson's. Rooney has been good for us, he was our best player last year, but hasn't been good since March. If we can get a good price for him and get a good replacement I think we'll be ok. Bit afraid about what this will do for other big players like Vidic, Evra etc.
He's not done a tap all season so how is it gonna change between now and when he goes , his heart is gone so make him train with the kids , give him no special care and attention and no fecking fanfare when he gets booted in January
I don't know if he'll stay but it was pure genius
"The fans were chanting his name" (The fans want you to stay ffs!)
"There's always a contract if he wants it" (Keeping all doors open)
All the help we've given him
The genuine upset on his face
Saying he's let the club down a bit
Perfect, we're about to see just how deeply motivated by money Rooney really is.
As i said before, the whole 'world class' debate is flawed because the criteria is different from person to person.
But yeah, he's never been what you'd call a prolific striker but your worth as a player, even a striker, is not all about how many goals you score. That's the reason we've loved him as much as we have. There is so much more to him than just goals.
Take him out of our team over the past 5-6 years and can you really say we would have acheived as much as we have? Would we have been a constant in the top echelon of club football during that period? I'd be inclined to think we wouldn't have done quite so well. When we lost Ronaldo & Tevez and people (some of our own fans included) were convinced the end of our reign at the top of English football was near, Rooney stepped out of Ronnie's shadow with a fantastic season by any standard and i'm sure that, had we won the CL that season, he'd have been crowned Player of the Year.
As i said, i'd be very interested to see the results of a poll consisting of all players, managers and coaches on whether they consider Rooney world class. I'd bet that the vast majority would.
Edit: Did we just officially hit meltdown?
Quality post this. I learned after Becks left that you support the club. Not the players. Not because I had anything against David but you understand the fickle nature of football and that players come and they go. I'm only disappointed in Rooney. I expected better from him. Not necessarily to be the next Giggs/Scholes but if he did left, it would be in better circumstances. If he wants more money, fine but to say a club that has won him 8 major honours, challenging on all fronts and made him the player he is, "has no ambition?" And "doesn't want to carry United again this season" borders on an arrogance which I didn't expect but he is what he is. I don't fault him for wanting to leave. Just how he's leaving and frankly, I wish he never wore the jersey ever again. Not even a training kit or a cap.
Too right he has and I bet he had that agreement sorted just after the World Cup.
I reckon SAF has held back with the public announcement in the hope that he changes his mind. However, Rooney's scummy representatives decided it was time to bring this whole dirty deal into the public forum.
I do hope that the Shitty feckers get exposed!!
Not sure, would have to look at the regs. I think it's something like 10% minimum of matches you have to play - in which case January would probably be fine.
Would Fergie expose a city deal in an attempt to pile more pressure should this attempt not reverse his decision?
Do we actually know Mourinho thinks that or is that just based on Ballague's speculation?
All I've heard is that Mourinho feels Rooney will stay at United which I thought was interesting...
It'll be interesting, but ive meet a few people around Europe this year and whenever i've asked them if they regard Rooney World Class all said no. They said he was a special kind of player but none would go as far as saying he was world class.
How could agreeing a deal with the player and not his club not be considered tapping up? That seems like the very definition of tapping up.