A people's Revolution

London used up all its sympathy points protesting against your evil regime. They can't feel for everyone all of the time, you know. Their compassion reserves are near empty at the moment. ;)

There's been hordes of protests outside the Egyptian, Libyan, Iranian and even Iraqi embassies over the last few weeks in London alone, I know that for a fact because I've seen them in person. They might not get mainstream media coverage but they're definitely happening.
 
I was under the impression that you were critical of the Yank administration for not expressing unequivocal support of the Egyptian revolution.

I was using the stance on Iran as a precedence on insisting consistency. And even then I was only expecting the US to vocally express support for the protests which demanded democracy and ousting of a tyrannous dictator. I wasn't calling on them to unleash their F-16s on state buildings, which I'm sure the US are urging to do in Iran, if not urging the Israelis to do so.
 
As I said before what do you want us to do? What did we do when the USSR and Eastern Europe were collapsing? Absolutely nothing as we knew our involvement would complicate the situation and give Moscow the impetus to be stronger in putting rebellion down.

When your thousands of "human rights activists" take the streets next time Israel is engaged in a regional conflict, make sure you don't buy their crap about caring for human rughts. They don't. There is not one of them out there when hundreds of Arab civilians are being murdered by their own.
 
There's been hordes of protests outside the Egyptian, Libyan, Iranian and even Iraqi embassies over the last few weeks in London alone, I know that for a fact because I've seen them in person. They might not get mainstream media coverage but they're definitely happening.

They either don't get media coverage because they consist of a few dozen expats or that the Jewish-controlled mainstream media only cover anti-Israeli demonstrations...oh, wait a minute...;)
 
When your thousands of "human rights activists" take the streets next time Israel is engaged in a regional conflict, make sure you don't buy their crap about caring for human rughts. They don't. There is not one of them out there when hundreds of Arab civilians are being murdered by their own.

Again as I've told Mihaj, come to London and see it for yourself. There's protests, seminars, and lots of notable activists giving talks. You seem to be obsessed with this Israeli victimhood notion.
 
They either don't get media coverage because they consist of a few dozen expats or that the Jewish-controlled mainstream media only cover anti-Israeli demonstrations...oh, wait a minute...;)

There's plenty of footage in the Guardian....oh wait that's the official anti-semitic paper right? In which case I can't find any more news sources, sorry.
 
I was using the stance on Iran as a precedence on insisting consistency. And even then I was only expecting the US to vocally express support for the protests which demanded democracy and ousting of a tyrannous dictator. I wasn't calling on them to unleash their F-16s on state buildings, which I'm sure the US are urging to do in Iran, if not urging the Israelis to do so.

If anything, the Yanks are doing their best to make sure Israel's F-16 stay put. The way things look from here it appears that the Yanks stabbed Mubarak in the back, but when it came to Lybia and Bahrain (you once mentioned their oil thirst, didn't you?) we didn't hear a murmur from the Obamas.

Now that's almost as hypocritical as the Iranian regime calling for popular uprising in neighbouring states, and Hizballah expressing support for protesters in Tripoli while shooting protesters in Tehran.
 
There's been hordes of protests outside the Egyptian, Libyan, Iranian and even Iraqi embassies over the last few weeks in London alone, I know that for a fact because I've seen them in person. They might not get mainstream media coverage but they're definitely happening.

That's true, haven't seen it covered anywhere really.
 
If anything, the Yanks are doing their best to make sure Israel's F-16 stay put. The way things look from here it appears that the Yanks stabbed Mubarak in the back, but when it came to Lybia and Bahrain (you once mentioned their oil thirst, didn't you?) we didn't hear a murmur from the Obamas.

The yanks stabbed him in the back because they'd be damned if they'd continued to support him. But they played an excellently balanced game, refusing to condemn him in the beginning, despite his brutal retaliation. Now they've been pushing for a Mubarak-style Egypt without Mubarak.

It was a diplomatic master stroke by the Obama regime, which bar the odd slip up (e.g. Frank Wisner revealing the true feelings of the administration), they've given themselves the superficial appearance of being neutral, and 'supporting the will of the people'.

Now that's almost as hypocritical as the Iranian regime calling for popular uprising in neighbouring states, and Hizballah expressing support for protesters in Tripoli while shooting protesters in Tehran.

I don't care for the Iranian regime, but they're simply echoing the wishes of the people who are still at the mercy of tyrannous dictators. For them to encourage uprisings in places like Egypt is only echoing the wishes of the Egyptian people, so it's not like they've said anything wrong. And since Iran happens to be in the region, they have more right to a say than the US who are some thousands of miles away.
 
There's plenty of footage in the Guardian....oh wait that's the official anti-semitic paper right? In which case I can't find any more news sources, sorry.

Not sure about Guardian anti-semitism. Could be a marketing strategy.

BBC News - Gaddafi protests outside Libyan embassy in London

20 February 2011 Last updated at 18:25 GMT Help Around 200 people have held a protest outside the Libyan embassy in London calling for Col Muammar Gaddafi to leave office.

Thousands protest flotilla killings in London and Istanbul - Times Online

In London, thousands joined a march from Downing Street to the Israeli embassy to express “outrage” at the killings.
 
"The unity of China was more important than the protestors in Tianenmen Square."

Finally a dictator walking the walk...he's gonna blast them off the streets...wonder what will happen with Ben Ghazi, seeing as reports are that, it has gone to the protesters.

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"It's impossible for the youth to follow anyone else. If not Gaddafi, who else would they follow? Somebody with a beard?"

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

He's a WUM of the highest order
 
Sky are reporting that Libya is to block all oil exports.
That could cause massive problems if they do for any length of time , I sure I read yesterday that Libya provides Europe with 72% of its oil.

Lol thats incorrect they are no 12 largest oil exporter if I am correct. If the figure is correct it may be that they supply 72% of their oil exports to Europe.

Traders will jump on this as an excuse - totally bullshit.
 
Can't the rebels hire a group of Mossad(I realize it's not realistic, but they're among the best) or FSB assassins to kill him? That seems like it's the only way this will end.
 
If Libya were the providers of 72% of Europe's oil supply, European forces would be half way across the Mediterranean before Gadaffi had even finished his speech.
 
Desperate rant from Gaddafi.Is days are numbered but it's not going to end well.
 
If Libya were the providers of 72% of Europe's oil supply, European forces would be half way across the Mediterranean before Gadaffi had even finished his speech.

I think they provide 30-35% of the oil Italy needs, but definitely nothing remotely close to even 5% of what the EU or Europe as a whole uses....
 
Sky are reporting that Libya is to block all oil exports.
That could cause massive problems if they do for any length of time , I sure I read yesterday that Libya provides Europe with 72% of its oil.

Bollocks. Libya exports between 1.2M and 1.5M barrels/day. (Estimates vary for some reason.) The EU (which is not all of Europe) imports 8.6M barrels/day.
 
Lol thats incorrect they are no 12 largest oil exporter if I am correct. If the figure is correct it may be that they supply 72% of their oil exports to Europe.

Traders will jump on this as an excuse - totally bullshit.

yes I got it wrong should of been of there exports.
BBC does say 82% of exports to Europe
BBC News - Arab protests pose energy threat
 
I made a mistake and I should of put 72% of there exports , but like I said before the BBC does say 82% of there exports are to Europe.

Which'll of course result in a price spike, and maybe some shortages in a few isolated areas. It'll hardly cause "massive" problems unless you meant that in the other definition of the word:
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"No Libyan oil? But...but...how will I wash my hair? Saudi oil gives me split ends!"
 
Supposedly ads have appeared in Nigeria offering $2000 a day to sign up as pro-Gaddafi mercenaries in Libya.
 
Every story has several sides! Make of this what you will

Dr. Aisha Gaddafi fiica lui Muammar Gaddafi – interviu « StireaPress Edi


Dr. Aisha Gaddafi fiica lui Muammar Gaddafi – interviu
FEBRUARIE 22, 2011
Aisha Gaddafi, Ayesha al-Gaddafi, عائشة القذافي

Aisha Gaddafi, 34 de ani, fiica colonelului Muammar Gaddafi. Aceasta este o avocată de succes, foarte dură.

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Aisha Gaddafi, daughter of Colonel Gaddafi of Libya, talks to the Sunday Telegraph about life in Libya, her charity work, and the controversial causes she has supported.


You are involved with charity work for women’s rights in Libya. Is this a big issue in your country?

- I have always seen my role in the charity sphere, and I do my best to give a helping hand to anyone who needs assistance. The work that I am most proud of is a hotline protecting women from domestic violence.

Is domestic violence a big problem in Libya?

- It is not a particularly serious problem in Libya, but yes, complaints are made against men from time to time. The problem is a lack of education – a lot of housewives and women don’t know the law is beside them because of ignorance. The law is very strict and sides with women
What about those who say Libya’s criminal justice system does not respect human rights?

- I have tried to understand why people say that, and where Libya is violating human rights, but I have not found anything. Those criticisms are completely groundless.


Why did you choose to join the defence team for Saddam Hussein’s war crimes trial?

- I studied law and I felt duty bound to defend anyone who feels he is wrongly accused. The reason I felt so commited was because there was so much of a campaign to discredit him in the media – pictures of him wearing underwear, having his teeth checked and so on. It was all designed to make him look inhumane. I also felt a drive to defend the Iraqi people.

But wasn’t Saddam guilty?

- Let me put it this way. If you want to talk about the crimes that they claim Saddam committed, let’s talk about what is taking place in Iraq. More than 1 million Iraqis have been killed, and the whole civilisation of Iraq has been wiped out.

Did you actually go to Baghdad for the trial? It was supposed to be very dangerous. Several of Saddam’s defence lawyers were killed.

- Unfortunately not, no. My family was too concerned about safety. My role was to contact the hundreds of lawyers involved and give them advice.

You actually met Saddam once, didn’t you? What was he like?

- Yes, it was on my own initiative through my charity work and campaigning against the sanctions, about a year before the war. It was a cordial family meeting with a friendly atmosphere in Baghdad. For me it was quite normal, he was the president and elected by his own people. Plus we should not forget that he was always a great supporter of the Middle East, and it was for this that he was charged.

But he wasn’t he also accused of killing roughly 300,000 of his own people? There were many Iraqis who were delighted when he was hung.

- It is only normal that some people are against you and some are with you. You are bound to meet people who may be against your policies.


You also supported the anti-American resistance in Iraq. Why was that?

- When you have an occupying army coming from abroad, raping your women and killing your own people, it is only legitimate that you fight them.

Your father is known for taking a tough stand against Islamic extremism in Libya. Are you concerned about these movements?

- Islam is a faith, a religion, free from all this extremism and based on clemency and compassion and morals. You will never hear about Muslim sheikhs burning Bibles, or desecrating drawings of Jesus. Extremists do not represent the true words of Islam. But who created and supported and funded al Qaeda? It was the West.

In 2000, you gave a speech at Speakers’ Corner in London in favour of the IRA. Why do you support them?

- I have always been a supporter of all liberation movements. Britian is Britain and Ireland is Ireland.

Should British victims of the IRA get compensation?

No. People make it look as if Libya is a big fund, with everyone taking money from this big saving box, and this is a thing of the past.

How do people react when they find out who your father is?

- Those who don’t know who I am generally gasp, and then they become very friendly and welcoming, and take the chance to send greetings to my father. None of them have ever reacted badly.

What is your relationship with your father like?

- People forget that before he is a great man and leader, he is also my father, my friend and my brother. He is very close to me, and I feel so safe when I am with him. My love for him is beyond description, and we spend as much time as possible together. I always advise him to look after his health and take things easy, but apart from that it is him who gives me advice. If I had to pick his single best piece of wisdom, it would be that he underlines being modest, not to be arrogant, and that we should shoulder our responsibilities.

Has he changed much in the last decade, as Libya has come out of diplomatic isolation?

- The man is the man. He never changes. He is a man of principles, he believes in causes, defending the poor and underdog, he never changes the main ideas that he believes in. I would say that now the future of Libya is very promising, bright and optimistic. It is taking its rightful place in the international community and everyone is seeking good ties with us.

Sursa: Telegraph Media Group Ltd
 
Finally it seems like the divide and conquer strategy so successfully deployed by 'the west' is slowly unravelling as the peoples of the Middle East take back control of what is rightly theirs.

Anyone with a crystal ball want to forecast what the maps of this region might look like in 24 months time? Raoul? My sources tell me any number of permeations look possible. None look good for what is today called 'Israel'.

Wonder if the 'twitches' in Israel have reached Jack Bauer proportions yet?
 
When your thousands of "human rights activists" take the streets next time Israel is engaged in a regional conflict, make sure you don't buy their crap about caring for human rughts. They don't. There is not one of them out there when hundreds of Arab civilians are being murdered by their own.

You're obviously not aware that there has been mass demonstrations outside the embassies of the countries concerned, with regard to protests against Israel, I don't know to what extend they are exaggerated in your media as they are no bigger than the ones outside the Embassy of Libya right now.
 
I'll be glad if this leads to an energy shortage, our own fault for not investing in alternative energy.

You do realise that the spike in energy prices in the spring and summer of 2008 was to the financial meltdown late in the year and subsequent recession as the assassination of Duke Franz Ferdinand was to the First World War?

Wishing for something like that is simply absurd.
 
No doubt that in the years to come, Blair will take credit for inspiring the Arab people to revolt!
 
This whole situation is very interesting, have any other countries descended into revolution today, and near it?
 
Finally it seems like the divide and conquer strategy so successfully deployed by 'the west' is slowly unravelling as the peoples of the Middle East take back control of what is rightly theirs.

Anyone with a crystal ball want to forecast what the maps of this region might look like in 24 months time? Raoul? My sources tell me any number of permeations look possible. None look good for what is today called 'Israel'.

Wonder if the 'twitches' in Israel have reached Jack Bauer proportions yet?

:wenger: I'm sure a fledgling government is going to risk all in an attempt to fight Israel. Once they were defeated, they'd lose power. Great thinking.
 
You do realise that the spike in energy prices in the spring and summer of 2008 was to the financial meltdown late in the year and subsequent recession as the assassination of Duke Franz Ferdinand was to the First World War?

Wishing for something like that is simply absurd.
Yes, but people never change until they are absolute forced to, and the sooner that change is forced the better.