Yes. He's anonymous for 90 minutes, gets one half chance, and scores. So yes, he is a constant threat.
Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)
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Really sad to hear his comments. Very poor from Ronnie. He will be angry at himself, or at least he should be. The 1-on-1 and the header were great chances by his standards.
I don't have a problem with his remarks after the game. The guy is passionate and wants to win at all costs. I wish that attitude would have rubbed off on some of our players last season. We all say things in the heat of the battle, it's human nature and emotions. He was probably more disappointed in his own performance and that was what was eating away at him
Not really, he comes across as arrogant and a complete plonker. 'Winners' don't go on a massive whine after not being able to win a game against inferior opposition over 90+ minutes.
Yes he is arrogant, and possibly a plonker. However, these are parts of his character that has helped him become one of the top 2 players in the world for a consistent period of time. I think people can be too critical of Ronaldo.
Is he self centered, yes,
is he more interested in his own personal glory than the team's, more than likely
However you have to admire his sheer dedication to become the best he can. When you look back at some other players who were also extremely talented and just didnt have the dedication like for example Ronaldinho. Then I admire him
Just saw his comments and as a neutral he just came across as incredibly small time and up himself. He's one of the best players in the world, playing for a decent national team and he puts the blame for not winning on a tiny opponent? That's pretty pathetic. Jose did the same kind of thing a few times when he was with us, and it always made me cringe.
You reckon he's "pulling a Jose" and saying that to take all the bad press on himself instead of the squad?
Try 51 in 48.
Messi neither. Does it make Suarez better footballer than Messi? Is Mexes better than both?
Shitty thing to say about Iceland, given the size of them.
If you were slagging Chelsea in the past (or next seasons Man United) for parking the bus then that's fair, given the resources and players available.
If you were slagging Chelsea in the past (or next seasons Man United) for parking the bus then that's fair, given the resources and players available.
Absolute tosser. He was less of a tosser when he was a better* player for us.
*more complete, not just about goals.
*more complete, not just about goals.
Such a tosser!
Then again, I guess that sore loser mentality has helped spur him on throughout the years.
And this is exactly why people don't like him. He plays the victim card too much thinking the whole world is against him and if you don't like someone's Personality of course it will play a part in how history remembers/rates them.. He probably deserves more credit for his football but he loses points because of things like that. It's not "hating" like his fanboys say, he makes it hard for people to like him.
He will never be loved no matter how much PR and goals he scores.. There's a reason someone like Ole Gunnar was a cult hero long before his 1999 heroics.. Not just because of his football ability.
It's a shame as he's a great player, but let's himself down with silly unnecessary comments like that which he should be above. If I was Real Madrid or Portugal I'd ban him from talking to the media and just let him do his talking on the pitch.
He should look at his own performance as the Captain of this great football country.. not once have I heard him say to the media "I played really bad, I'm angry with myself" it is always the ref's fault, the other team for "defending", his "inferior" teammates etc. As Roy Keane would say 'small-time".
And why do his teammates let him take every free-kick? if I was Bale at Real Madrid, Moutinho for Portugal I'd be having a word. His record is shocking yet the commentators always give him the big build up like any free-kick is like a penalty for him ala Juninho at Lyon. He is rubbish at them. A product of the modern media hype machine.
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Ironically I think that was one of his best Barcelona performances with the 14/15 3-1 Home win where he worked for the team, tracked back and was a team player. He didn't dominate Barcelona but he played very well for me. Created a chance for Bale, scored a goal, but was ineffective from deep. I think we have different definitions of dominating here. He wasn't constantly beating his man though. Of course he is a threat near the goal as are most of the great players. We are talking about the absolute greatest here which is my gripe. Cruijff, Pele, Maradona and Messi can drop deep and affect multiple phases of the game in ways CR just cannot. No shame in that. My gripe is when people say he is as good as these guys which he clearly isn't. Noone in their right mind would say he isn't a top player. I am comparing him to the absolute elite, cream of the crop in football here.
CR would be less effective in a team that played like Barcelona because he needs space to be fully effective and isn't that great playing when the lines are very tight like Messi, Suarez and Neymar. Madrid are a counter attacking team to suit CR and Mourinho even stated that is the reason he played counter attacking football. Pellegrini did this as well to take advantage of his cpounter attacking ability and so did Ancelotti. He is the perefect CA player, the best CA forward I have ever seen tbh.
I actually feel sorry for his team mates yesterday, he was throwing his arms around, shaking his head in disgust whenever there was a misplaced pass or the ball wasn't given to him, he maybe a great individual player but he's far from being a team player or a leader. Then he went on and missed that header and thought that's karma for you. I think all the success has really got to his head, i don't really recall him being such a cnut at United. Then his post match comments just top it all off, did he really expect Iceland to open up and let Portugal destroy them?
You still believe that Jose's post-match bad loser comments were really an attempt to take all the bad press on himself instead of the squad?
I never thought that the case, and surely last seasons meltdown showed to all that he really isn't that calculated and detached.
Sometimes, elite sportsmen and managers just are bad losers - it goes with the territory.
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He's petty, but doesn't deserve the slating he gets.
Iceland should be thrown out for not rolling over for the (used to be) great Ronaldo, how dare they defend and battle for a well deserved point
Why? If you act petty why should you get a free pass just because you're also good at football?
To be fair those couple of tap ins can make or break the game. When England played against Russia there was a ball drifted into the 5 yard space and Dele Alli didn't predict that he could make that ball and he didn't make the run which Ronaldo would take and score a tap in. That tap in would've sealed the game for England and not a draw, but then again that goal would be considered as a tap in that any average player would score.
Such a tosser!
Then again, I guess that sore loser mentality has helped spur him on throughout the years.
That's quite pathetic, worst thing is that he doesn't really have to do that at all. Just say that they deserved a point because they did, congratulate, that's all. After such shite performance those comments make him look ten times a bigger bellend than he actually is.
He's always been like that
That's why players always say they prefer to play with Messi than Ronaldo
With Ronaldo it's always about him
That's why players always say they prefer to play with Messi than Ronaldo
With Ronaldo it's always about him
Look he's a good goalscorer one of the best to ever play the game but it doesn't change the fact that he is over rated because of it.
I couldn't care what Ronaldo does or how he plays if he wasn't called one of the best ever and better than Messi by a lot of fans.
It just drives me nuts how people are so quick to praise him when he scores a goal and how he's amazing despite the fact he offers very little for his team and is not even comparable to the other guy.
and can you even compare the two teams they play for? take nothing away from Madrid , but Barca have easily been the best and most consistent team in europe over the last 10 years. Under Pep they were regarded and rightly so as the greatest club side ever. The same team ( majority of the players at least) won 3 back to back international tournaments without Messi.
Are people really using words like over rated and past it to describe Ronaldo? having a laugh here.. not going into a debate between who is better or worse but to even think suggest Ronaldo is past it ridiculous!
Really? He had one header brilliantly saved, and then another header (a ridiculously hard one, especially given Nani isn't a notorious header of the ball) that just narrowly went past the post by a few inches. Oh and he scored.
Your boy on the other hand had a fairy basic (for him) 1v1 in which any sort of touch would have scored, missed a clear-cut header similarly to Nani, a few freekicks that couldn't go over the wall. Never mind going for goal when passes were on and constantly getting blocked/sky over the bar.
I know you've accepted Ronaldo has had a bad game, but you don't need to just shift the weight to another player. Ronaldo was shocking. He had more chances than anyone to score tonight. He flopped.
Caps it off with sore comments after the match, and not shaking hands with any of the Icelandic players (or stayed behind to applaud the fans).
I really want to like him, but he's such a swine. A good personality would go gloriously with his talent.
Didn't Ronaldo have team mates as well that won 3 back to back tournaments?
Iceland have a population of 330,000. Ofcourse they should celebrate if they want to, its completely understandable.
Barca had 50% + influence on that side.
Ronaldo acting like an entitled, arrogant git being so ungracious towards Iceland. Iceland played very well and it is an incredible achievement for them to even be at the finals nevermind get a point.
Made an absolute tit of himself. I like Ronaldo but he was dreadful yesterday and instead of blaming Iceland for celebrating he should be looking at himself for missing 2 easy chances and not supporting his team.
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Many United fans like appropriating him as one of their own even for his achievements away from the club, so will defend him to the hilt but IMO he doesn't do enough to really belong in the creme de la creme of footballers discussion , scoring goals is fine but just too often he goes AWOL in important games. It's a legitimate criticism of him that people can only respond to with his goals per game ratio. He hasn't been that player since 2007 but you can't argue that it hasn't still worked out reasonably for him.
Fair comments @Hernandez - BFA.
And yeah, Ronaldo's bitter remarks about Iceland's style were vulgar and uncalled for.
And yeah, Ronaldo's bitter remarks about Iceland's style were vulgar and uncalled for.
Those comments make him look like an absolute plonker.
Those remarks were truly uncalled for.
I think you are underestimating what he does for his team mainly because it doesn't involve him on ball goal scoring threats, such as coming back to dribble out of tight spaces to unlock the defense, or making a sexy lob/ through pass, etc.. They are all great and electric types of moments to watch but why are these more of a threat than constantly, and I mean constantly making runs and finding space in between the defense, or dropping deeper to bring out the CBs, or initiating give and goes to lose his marker and set himself free? Though the latter might be a little more individualistic, I believe these are threats that Ronaldo displays every single game at an uber elite rate that is rarely other matched by other elite forwards. Just because ones playing style is completely different than the others doesn't mean that that one is better than them.(I agree Messi is better than Ronaldo)
Although Ronaldo didn't really showcase this as much against bigger teams this season, Ronaldo has also proven to be a facilitator for his team throughout the season. He has proven to be a crafty passer in the final third to set his teammates up for goal, No?
The worst thing is that in a 10-15 years time and on, we'll have him on the media still saying he's the best. And maybe he will start saying he's the best ever.
Just like Pele & Maradona today.
He's good enough to tell my grandkids I've watched him play, but his personality makes him worse.
Just like Pele & Maradona today.
He's good enough to tell my grandkids I've watched him play, but his personality makes him worse.
I honestly do. I love this man and he has a hunger that football has never seen, but when you are coming off a horrible game like that you have no right to attack the other team. Completely out of character imo.
I just keep hoping to hear those comments are fake. Really pathetic.
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