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EZee said:
dan hardy announced for ufc 99 vs marcus davies

should be a good fight and i imagine it will be on the main card again... good exposure in the states...

3rd fight of a 4 fight deal ... would be interesting to see what names get thrown around if he wins this fight as well...

and i think it is a fight he can win...
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It'll be close though. Marcus Davis is a tough fighter with knock out power. I think it'll be a great matchup and very tough to call.
 
EZee said:
interesting fight evans vs machida...

machida controlls the distance so well and his timimg of when to step in is impecable... evans on the other hand has great hands if he can make machida trade... im realy looking forward to that fight
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I don't think the fight will be competitive. Rashad has a punchers chance and to his credit he has cashed in on this chance repeatedly.

Machida however I think is too slick in his stand up to let Rashad ever get off with one of his big looping shots.

I expect Machida to rake him with leg kicks. To step into lots of Rashads looping shots and plant him with a straight left on the kisser over and over. I expect Rashad to be picking himself up frequently from Machidas tricky leg sweeps and trips.

The best common opponent for these two guys was Tito Ortiz, and while you can't rely on MMath, you can look at the supposed strength of Rashad and Tito. Tito was supposed to be Machidas first real test with a strong wrestler. Machida dominated Tito from start to finish, and had only one small lapse where Tito almost lucked into a sloppy triangle. Machida won a very convincing 30-27 fight and was unlucky not to finish Tito.

Tito vs Rashad saw Tito really push the pace and dominate Rashad for 2 rounds before he began to gas out. Tito in my estimation was unfairly deducted 1 point for a spontaneous fence grab during a take down. If this is a five round fight Rashad wins, but it was a three round fight, and while it was a technical draw because of a pretty suspect point deduction Tito "won" the fight.

My feeling is that Rashad will have nothing for Machida in the take down department. My feeling is that Rashad while having good hand speed and power doesn't throw technically enough to really cause Machida any serious problems standing up.

I would like to allude to Forrest vs Rashad now. Anyone who has followed Forrest knows that following his knock out loss to Jardine, he has changed his game and now fights like Machida. He obviously doesn't have the pedigree, the technique or the skill of Machida, but he has size, work ethic and heart. Forrest now fights as much like Machida as he is able. He moves from exchanges. He works the leg kick and the jab. He looks to secure take downs when the opportunity presents itself.

Forrest was easily winning against Rashad until he got lazy or maybe tired and had a kick caught and punished for it.

Machida is more of a threat in that he is far less predictable and has far more up his sleeve than Forrest. I don't see Rashad looking very good in this fight at all.

If Rashad wins, I am almost certain it will be a wide looping punch that tags Machida. However we haven't seen a wrestler successfully dictate a fight with Machida on the ground. Maybe Rashad will be the first.

I doubt it though.
 
Nucks said:
I don't think the fight will be competitive. Rashad has a punchers chance and to his credit he has cashed in on this chance repeatedly.

Machida however I think is too slick in his stand up to let Rashad ever get off with one of his big looping shots.

I expect Machida to rake him with leg kicks. To step into lots of Rashads looping shots and plant him with a straight left on the kisser over and over. I expect Rashad to be picking himself up frequently from Machidas tricky leg sweeps and trips.

The best common opponent for these two guys was Tito Ortiz, and while you can't rely on MMath, you can look at the supposed strength of Rashad and Tito. Tito was supposed to be Machidas first real test with a strong wrestler. Machida dominated Tito from start to finish, and had only one small lapse where Tito almost lucked into a sloppy triangle. Machida won a very convincing 30-27 fight and was unlucky not to finish Tito.

Tito vs Rashad saw Tito really push the pace and dominate Rashad for 2 rounds before he began to gas out. Tito in my estimation was unfairly deducted 1 point for a spontaneous fence grab during a take down. If this is a five round fight Rashad wins, but it was a three round fight, and while it was a technical draw because of a pretty suspect point deduction Tito "won" the fight.

My feeling is that Rashad will have nothing for Machida in the take down department. My feeling is that Rashad while having good hand speed and power doesn't throw technically enough to really cause Machida any serious problems standing up.

I would like to allude to Forrest vs Rashad now. Anyone who has followed Forrest knows that following his knock out loss to Jardine, he has changed his game and now fights like Machida. He obviously doesn't have the pedigree, the technique or the skill of Machida, but he has size, work ethic and heart. Forrest now fights as much like Machida as he is able. He moves from exchanges. He works the leg kick and the jab. He looks to secure take downs when the opportunity presents itself.

Forrest was easily winning against Rashad until he got lazy or maybe tired and had a kick caught and punished for it.

Machida is more of a threat in that he is far less predictable and has far more up his sleeve than Forrest. I don't see Rashad looking very good in this fight at all.

If Rashad wins, I am almost certain it will be a wide looping punch that tags Machida. However we haven't seen a wrestler successfully dictate a fight with Machida on the ground. Maybe Rashad will be the first.

I doubt it though.
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i rate rashad and although machida controlls distance very well he is very much in and out whilst rashad steps off very well and with good latteral movement might be able to give machida a lot less room than he likes...

if they stand and trade rashad has a great chance so as i say i think it could be very interesting tactically as rashad simply cant stay at distance or machida will pick him off

still if i had to guess id say machida on a points decision... but fitness may well play a big part as neither of them has ever fought 5 rounds before... and one sloppy moment in 25mins and it can all be over
 
check out ufc 100!!!

Main Card

Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir[
Georges St-Pierre vs. Thiago Alves
Dan Henderson vs.Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman

Preliminary Card
Jon Jones vs. Jake O'Brien
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Jonathan Goulet
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

shaping up to be a very good night!
 
EZee said:
i rate rashad and although machida controlls distance very well he is very much in and out whilst rashad steps off very well and with good latteral movement might be able to give machida a lot less room than he likes...

if they stand and trade rashad has a great chance so as i say i think it could be very interesting tactically as rashad simply cant stay at distance or machida will pick him off

still if i had to guess id say machida on a points decision... but fitness may well play a big part as neither of them has ever fought 5 rounds before... and one sloppy moment in 25mins and it can all be over
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If they cancel each other out on their feet I can see Evans' wrestling prowess being a big factor. A solid wrestling background seems to be one of the most important factors in becoming a UFC champion.

I wonder if Machida will come up short in this regard?
 
EZee said:
check out ufc 100!!!

Main Card

Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir[
Georges St-Pierre vs. Thiago Alves
Dan Henderson vs.Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman

Preliminary Card
Jon Jones vs. Jake O'Brien
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Jonathan Goulet
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

shaping up to be a very good night!
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That looks like a class card.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
If they cancel each other out on their feet I can see Evans' wrestling prowess being a big factor. A solid wrestling background seems to be one of the most important factors in becoming a UFC champion.

I wonder if Machida will come up short in this regard?
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remember though that machida started bjj when he was only a kid and has won sumo titles as well... probably not quite as good a wrestler as evans but still a handfull...

as i say i can see fitness playing a big part in this especially if it goes over 3 rounds...
 
March 17, 2009
DETROIT, MI - Former UFC Heavyweight Champion, Tim Sylvia was involved in a fight at a bar in downtown Detroit Michigan with 7 foot, 320 pound WWE Superstar, Glen 'Kane' Jacobs (pictured above).

No details are currently being released on how the fight started. A witness says the two were arguing and Tim Sylvia instigated the fight. Jacobs quickly took Sylvia to the ground and repeatedly punched him in the face. The bartender along with a bystander helped pull Jacobs off Sylvia. Sylvia was said to have suffered a broken nose and a black eye.

The police were notified but since the fight was not prolonged and neither men wanted to press any charges, no arrests were made. Sylvia was driven by a friend who was with him to the hospital to treat the broken nose. Glen Jacobs left the scene with his wife shortly after.

More details to be released as they come in.
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Note to self: Never start on a bloke who is over 7ft tall and weighs 300 pounds
 
Pogue Mahone said:
If they cancel each other out on their feet I can see Evans' wrestling prowess being a big factor. A solid wrestling background seems to be one of the most important factors in becoming a UFC champion.

I wonder if Machida will come up short in this regard?
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He didn't really struggle at all with Ortiz when it came to that side of the fight. Ortiz himself was well on top of Rashad. Machida's BJJ is also superb.

I think Rashad might wanna keep him on his feet and try and knock him out. It won't be that easy either with Machida so elusive.

I like Rashad but I think this fight will be Machida's.
 
TheRedFlag said:
Note to self: Never start on a bloke who is over 7ft tall and weighs 300 pounds
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Hehe.

Was looking to find out more about that story and stumbled across this gif on an MMA forum.

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WTF?
 
Anyone have any Idea if UFC is planning on coming to Ireland/England any time soon again? fecking gutted I didnt go to UFC 94 in Dublin now
 
Don16 said:
Anyone have any Idea if UFC is planning on coming to Ireland/England any time soon again? fecking gutted I didnt go to UFC 94 in Dublin now
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I'm not sure about Dublin. It was a huge success by all accounts so I presume it will sooner rather than later. There seems to be a show on in England once a year at this stage.
 
Name Changed said:
I'm not sure about Dublin. It was a huge success by all accounts so I presume it will sooner rather than later. There seems to be a show on in England once a year at this stage.
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didnt dana promice a title fight in the uk this year?

possibly bisping if he gets a shot at silva? that would seem to make a lot of sence
 
Handjob Bob said:
That would be magnificent, which is probably why it wont happen - but here's hoping!
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perhaps they will just let lots of runors leek out so that they can sell out all the expensive tickets and then announce a much less interesting fight instead... like stevens vs sanchez for example
 
It feels like there hasn't been a UFC event in ages.. I'll miss the next one as well as I will be on hols.
 
RedCanadian said:
Going to meet Sam Stout tomorrow. My brother's new store is having it's grand opening and he's coming to do a meet and greet. Should be pretty cool.
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Got beat by Terry Etim recently enough didn't he? I remember him.

By the way, Terry Etim looks the part. Reminds me of Anderson Silva
 
Don16 said:
By the way, Terry Etim looks the part. Reminds me of Anderson Silva
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his ground game is a LONG way short of silvas...

though he did look good in the o2 he was fighting somebody who did not know how to shin obstruct or stop kick...

deffinatley one to watch for the future and still only young but hes a long way off the florians and penns of the division still
 
Don16 said:
Anyone ever listened to Joe Rogans standup comedy? Got a CD of his, it was only alright. All he does is talk about sex really.
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I haven't but a couple of mates of mine have seen him a few times and have said that they think he is very good.
 
RedCanadian said:
My bro is at the UFC this weekend. His company helped him get into all kinds of sit down events with the fighters. He got fee tickets to a whole bunch of events and got his event tickets 50% off! Lucky cnut he is!!!!
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Lucky... I was going to go but work fecked me over... got a bunch of mates heading up to support TJ Grant, he's fighting second on the prelim card so he wont be on PPV, however it'll be 50 deep up there for him.
 
Don16 said:
Anyone think Leites has a chance against Silva tonight?
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he has a chance... anybody who steps into the octogan does...

but its a pretty fecking slim one

the only top name hes won against in nate marquet (who imo is 2nd rate at best) and that was on a split decision...

ill be shocked if he gets to the 3rd round before either a ko or a tko
 
Don16 said:
There doesn't seem to be anyone else for Silva to fight. Maybe GSP, at catchweight?
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that will happen imo... but maybee even at 185... gsp could easily step up... not sure if silva could easily go down half a stone... after all hes been fighting at 205 as well...

maia would be a good fight imo... whilst silva has the stand up sewn up maia can potentially finish him on the ground very very quickly...

also Xavier Foupa-Pokam makes his debut tonight... ive not seen him much but some people i know have trained with him and tell me his muay thai is exceptional... paul daley beet him but he was only 22 then and i seriousley think he could be one to watch in the ufc... his fights should be exciting from what im told... not saying he is anywhere close to silva at the moment but im reliably informed he has the talent to do well in the future if he has the mentality to go with it
 
well that wasnt the best UFC...

I think the booing was out of order for silva... he was taken to the ground by a bjj world champion and he routinly got up without a submission attempt being made...

as for the stand up he totally dominated it and the other guy just fell down all the time... the low line side kicks from a right hand lead were so jeet kune do that i thought it was a brilliant tactic...

silva is so far ahead of the 185 division i think that the gsp vs silva fight is looking more likley!

liddell is finished...

kongo didnt look that impressive either

cane looked good again and i can see him getting some better opponents soon
 
I can see how people can stand up for Anderson Silva, but the fight itself was not reminiscent of the times when he cunted Rich Franklin. I want that guy back.

Liddell really is finished, I never really took to him either. "Oh wow he loves the sport, its great he's still fighting!", yeah well maybe fight for free next time. Still, Shogun needed to perform, and having a KO of Chuck Liddell is good for his CV.


When can we realistically expect GSP/Silva? GSP is fighting at UFC 100, maybe UFC 105? Can't wait for that. Chances are it will happen now.
 
Poor UFC topped off by an awful main event. Dana White had this to say about it

“I personally apologize for what happened tonight…You guys know this is not what the UFC was built on. This is not the way fights usually go…I’m personally unhappy with the whole fight…I did not like the fight at all, period, on either side…I’ve never not wanted to come to a press conference, and I didn’t want to come to this one…I’m in the business of selling fights, and I think I’m pretty good at it. But I’m going to have a hard time letting people know that, ‘I promise, his next one is going to be good.’ I need to talk to him (Anderson Silva) and figure out what’s going on and why this is happening…In Chicago (after the Patrick Cote fight at UFC 90), it was like, ‘Listen, everybody has a bad night…You name all the greats that have ever played any game in the history of playing games, every guy has an off night.’ That night, how upset [Silva] was and all the flak he got, I honestly thought he was going to come back strong…We run a fight company, and when guys don’t fight, we sit down (with them) and have a conversation on why they’re not fighting…This is what I do. It’s like having any other business and the guy doesn’t come out and perform at work…Anderson Silva has the talent and the skill, in my opinion – this is just my opinion – to stop anybody in the 185-pound division. When he’s on and lets his hands and feet go, there [aren't] too many things people can do about it…When he leg-kicks people, people spin around in circles. When he hits people, people don’t want to get hit again. When he lets these things go, people don’t like it. Again, I just don’t feel he has let them go like he can. You know me. You ask me a question, you’re going to get the answer whether you like it or not. That’s how I feel about it…He’s still the champ…There’s still no way you can deny that this guy is the best fighter in the world. I can honestly say I didn’t like his fight tonight. I was unhappy with it, whatever it is. But I’ll tell you right now, he’s the best…Fedor (Emelianenko) is not the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world. These guys continue to fight the best. Fedor’s at a buffet somewhere in Russia. So until this guy decides to get in shape, take it serious and consistently fight the best in the world, for you guys to even think about calling him the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world is insane.”
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I have 2 things to say about those comments.

1) He should shoulder some of the blame himself (along with Joe Silva) for providing such a poor match up. Did he seriously expect Silva to jump into Leites guard and surrender his advantage standing? It was never going to be a barn burner.

2) Why the cheap shots at Fedor again? He'd be singing from a different sheet if he was fighting in the UFC.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
I have 2 things to say about those comments.

1) He should shoulder some of the blame himself (along with Joe Silva) for providing such a poor match up. Did he seriously expect Silva to jump into Leites guard and surrender his advantage standing? It was never going to be a barn burner.

2) Why the cheap shots at Fedor again? He'd be singing from a different sheet if he was fighting in the UFC.
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1/ true... silva got taken down and got up without a sumbission attempt... if leites wanted to get him down more often he needed to shoot in at his legs and not just lay on his back hoping silva would tickle his tummy...

2/ they are trying to get fedor to join the ufc yet again ... i imagine they think that a blockbuster fight against lesnar (if he wins agains mir) might prove too much of a challange for him to turn down...
 
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