WWC19 | Final: USA v Netherlands

Eng/Norway could be a tasty game. Graham-Hansen is exciting to watch but the English gals are decent up front too.
Looking forward to that.
 
It's impressive you can watch that match where Cameroon players were spitting and elbowing and stamping and pushing the ref and walking off in protest at a correct decision.

And come to the conclusion Cameroon will feel hard done by.

It's remarkable.
Where did I conclude that Cameroon were hard done by? On the contrary, I’ve been insisting that I believe every call today was correct.

Also, I’ve already pointed out in this thread that the elbow was booked and (I’m pretty certain) the spitting was unintentional. I don’t know about the stamping (hard to defend it) but they recollected and didn’t walk off so that didn’t happen.

Again, no, Cameroon were NOT hard done by. Not at all.
 
Yeah this isn't cricket, it's totally ok to put in potential career ending challenges, threaten to walk off when correct decisions are made, and then scream in players faces for being down when they're injured.

They acted like absolute fecking clowns and brought the game in to disrepute.
All of those things happens in the mens game as well, probably every week besides the walking off, why are you losing your head and holding the womens game to a different standard?
 
Yeah this isn't cricket, it's totally ok to put in potential career ending challenges, threaten to walk off when correct decisions are made, and then scream in players faces for being down when they're injured.

They acted like absolute fecking clowns and brought the game in to disrepute.
Big time. I hope they are disciplined but I feel because it's an African team, nothing will be done
 
@Fanatic 00237 you need to take off your rose tinted goggles for your team. You guys got the decisions today, should have had 2 reds, a penalty against you and you're still moaning about the great anti Cameroon conspiracy ffs.
Trust me, I’m not moaning today. I’m just explaining what I think I can understand from the strange behaviour from our ladies. The truth is that I don’t recognise them today at all. I have never seen them like this. They totally lost their heads.
 
Every WC (men’s included) there are complaints about the refs. It’s what happens when you have inexperienced refs being assigned by FIFA.
 
I think on the second goals the Cameroon players might have actually thought Parris was offside, which if true would be a shocking lack of understanding of the rules.

And a non acceptance of the VAR which has been clear from the outset. How could they dispute in such a hysterical way, sat on the bench
 
Trust me, I’m not moaning today. I’m just explaining what I think I can understand from the strange behaviour from our ladies. The truth is that I don’t recognise them today at all. I have never seen them like this. They totally lost their heads.

I'm not upto scratch with women's football. Are they and a young and inexperienced bunch?
 
There was a booking for the elbow.

The spitting wasn’t intentional. (I promise you, it wasn’t)

I think the dissent was allowed to prevent the match from spiralling out of control.

The think the ref was OK. She did her best to keep most of the post-match discussion more about the players’ poor conduct than about her.
:lol:

Personally I think England should've spent 15 minutes yelling at the ref, shoving her, going in dirty on the Cameroonian players and flat out refusing to play for extended periods. Rightly or wrong, you need to understand this type of (perceived) accumulation allows the English to act like absolute thundercunts and for the fans go pretend that's OK. Am I doing it right?
 
Every WC (men’s included) there are complaints about the refs. It’s what happens when you have inexperienced refs being assigned by FIFA.
Feck though, the men wouldn't have hesitated in sending off the player for the challenge on White
 
All of those things happens in the mens game as well, probably every week besides the walking off, why are you losing your head and holding the womens game to a different standard?

I haven't seen a single men's game in which complaints were taken to the level they were today ffs. How many men's games are you watching where players are threatening to walk off because a decision (correctly) went against them? They were screaming and acting like kids, there's a reason a fecking official had to give them a talking to at HT but then they decided to act even more like a bunch of kids in the second.

Yeah, I've lost my head for actually addressing their behaviour but the Cameroon team were just showing passion according to you. Fantastic stuff.
 
And a non acceptance of the VAR which has been clear from the outset. How could they dispute in such a hysterical way, sat on the bench

For that reaction from the replay I can only assume that they were looking at Parris who was well beyond the last man but in no way involved in the move or affecting any Cameroon players in it.
 
Where did I conclude that Cameroon were hard done by? On the contrary, I’ve been insisting that I believe every call today was correct.

Also, I’ve already pointed out in this thread that the elbow was booked and (I’m pretty certain) the spitting was unintentional. I don’t know about the stamping (hard to defend it) but they recollected and didn’t walk off so that didn’t happen.

Again, no, Cameroon were NOT hard done by. Not at all.

You're just saying today will feed into the paranoid perception in Cameroon that Fifa hate you?

Right, I get what you mean now.

Similar thing happens in England too, and most countries and clubs too I bet.
 
I haven't seen a single men's game in which complaints were taken to the level they were today ffs. How many men's games are you watching where players are threatening to walk off because a decision (correctly) went against them? They were screaming and acting like kids, there's a reason a fecking official had to give them a talking to at HT but then they decided to act even more like a bunch of kids in the second.

Yeah, I've lost my head for actually addressing their behaviour but the Cameroon team were just showing passion according to you. Fantastic stuff.

I still have no idea why the Cameroon captain was going after Houghton after the injury at the end
 
Come back when you've been eliminated from a world cup on yellow cards.;)

Certainly in 1990 Lineker went down easily for one of the penalties but come on that's like England moaning about Hand of God if they get a bad decision in this WC.
I’m not moaning about 1990. I’m explaining the perceived notion in Cameroon that FIFA has it against us at each and every tournament in which we participate. That was just one example, but we name one (right or wrong) for each WC we have played in.
 
No excuse, they played pretty much the same girls in the Olympic games in 2012. They tried to kick team GB off the park then

No excuse obviously, just wondering how experienced players can act so stupid as a group, you usually get one or two wildcards.... Not 11 of them!
 
Trust me, I’m not moaning today. I’m just explaining what I think I can understand from the strange behaviour from our ladies. The truth is that I don’t recognise them today at all. I have never seen them like this. They totally lost their heads.
Come on mate, It's because they were playing England, no more needs to be added
 
Sounds like Cameroon are the paranoid bunch making up their own scenarios why people hate them. Playing the victims, and quite badly too
 
I haven't seen a single men's game in which complaints were taken to the level they were today ffs. How many men's games are you watching where players are threatening to walk off because a decision (correctly) went against them? They were screaming and acting like kids, there's a reason a fecking official had to give them a talking to at HT but then they decided to act even more like a bunch of kids in the second.

Yeah, I've lost my head for actually addressing their behaviour but the Cameroon team were just showing passion according to you. Fantastic stuff.

Sorry to say, but that also looked top down as well from the manager. Instructions might have been given to injure. The manager showed no inclination to reign that in, IMO.
 
How though? There's been no wrong decisions against you today!

I can see the players being annoyed in the heat of the moment when they didn't know that the ref was right but afterwards? They'll surely be a be embarrassed when they see the replays.

Possibly. A history of injustices combined with emotion has a tendency to overcloud such things, for most human beings. I think most educated people know this occurs.

No, it doesn't. I thought you were going to provide an example of blatant bias but instead you describe what happens in almost every single game. Borderline decisions go for and against teams, referees interpret red cards as yellow and vice versa. It's disgraceful behaviour and there's no justification for it whatsoever.

Unlike the inaptly dubbed Fanatic, you seem to confuse the descriptive with the normative. You get an explanation of things factoring into the situation you don’t understand, but you are too hung up on the moral question (‘do you condemn this or not?’). He explicitly wrote that it was no excuse and that the calls were correct, and you clearly don’t understand the historical context. You confuse understanding with condoning.


You're not making any sense though.

What do you mean today feeds into that perception? The ref getting all the decisions correct?

You're just making excuses for the Cameroon players acting so stupidly.

You are hard of understanding how humans work, and hard of reading. It’s not an excuse, he wrote. Oh, and I doubt that you are the real Djemba-Djemba.

You sound English there, bro. :lol::lol:

Too true, but more subdued.
 
Possibly. A history of injustices combined with emotion has a tendency to overcloud such things, for most human beings. I think most educated people know this occurs.



Unlike the inaptly dubbed Fanatic, you seem to confuse the descriptive with the normative. You get an explanation of things factoring into the situation you don’t understand, but you are too hung up on the moral question (‘do you condemn this or not?’). He explicitly wrote that it was no excuse and that the calls were correct, and you clearly don’t understand the historical context. You confuse understanding with condoning.




You are hard of understanding how humans work, and hard of reading. It’s not an excuse, he wrote. Oh, and I doubt that you are the real Djemba-Djemba.



Too true, but more subdued.

You're hard of reading yourself as I posted I get what he means.

And I am Djemba-Djemba. How dare you
 
All this pearl-clutching by the English over the behavior of the Cameroon ladies is beyond hilarious.

There are no more boorish fans on the planet than the English. There's a reason why everyone hates you. (And, no, it's not jealousy as you lot haven't won anything since the Pleistocene.)
 
I’m not moaning about 1990. I’m explaining the perceived notion in Cameroon that FIFA has it against us at each and every tournament in which we participate. That was just one example, but we name one (right or wrong) for each WC we have played in.

Cameroon had really good team up to about 2006 but seems since then the quality has been really poor, 2014 for example was very poor where even plenty of ref decisions going for you wouldn't have got you to last 16.
 
All this pearl-clutching by the English over the behavior of the Cameroon ladies is beyond hilarious.

There are no more boorish fans on the planet than the English. There's a reason why everyone hates you. (And, no, it's not jealousy as you lot haven't won anything since the Pleistocene.)

:lol:

You support Utd though yeah?
 
All this pearl-clutching by the English over the behavior of the Cameroon ladies is beyond hilarious.

There are no more boorish fans on the planet than the English. There's a reason why everyone hates you. (And, no, it's not jealousy as you lot haven't won anything since the Pleistocene.)

Again that is relevant here because ?
 
All this pearl-clutching by the English over the behavior of the Cameroon ladies is beyond hilarious.

There are no more boorish fans on the planet than the English. There's a reason why everyone hates you. (And, no, it's not jealousy as you lot haven't won anything since the Pleistocene.)
It’s coming home.
 
I'm not upto scratch with women's football. Are they and a young and inexperienced bunch?
Actually no, they are not. Which is why, now that it’s over and done with, I think it was all a bit disgraceful. Many of them are playing their second WWC and have been AFCON regulars. Most play in minor European leagues. I think it was very unprofessional by those who should have known better. I just think they were a bit overwhelmed by the stage and got too emotional.
 
What the hell was the Cameroon player yelling at the England player who was on the floor after that horror tackle. She needs to rewatch that rake down the ankle and foot a hundred times and maybe ask her teammate do the same thing on her and then she might understand?

Thought England played well, passed it around, some good finishing again. Bronze and Parris did really well.
She was the one who threw a water bottle at a Holland coach the other day and was constantly falling over.
 
All this pearl-clutching by the English over the behavior of the Cameroon ladies is beyond hilarious.

There are no more boorish fans on the planet than the English. There's a reason why everyone hates you. (And, no, it's not jealousy as you lot haven't won anything since the Pleistocene.)

Actually it's the Americans everyone hates.
 
All this pearl-clutching by the English over the behavior of the Cameroon ladies is beyond hilarious.

There are no more boorish fans on the planet than the English. There's a reason why everyone hates you. (And, no, it's not jealousy as you lot haven't won anything since the Pleistocene.)

State of this.